The Supreme Court Says Unanimously Your Boss Can Make You Work For Free

a reply to: Grovit

Not if you are a specialist, but if you are an entry level worker or a homeless proletarian who has no skills, it probably sounds pretty good.

a reply to: Nechash

yeah. true
guess it is in peoples best interest to go out and get some skills

a reply to: Grovit

Keep thinking that. Once automation is fully rolled out. You'll just be another capital resource that takes up too much inventory space.

In Contract Law, it is based upon Buyer Beware.

not "Wages are a God given or evelutionary right."

its u bought it, pay me.

a reply to: Nechash

i take u haven't seen the new Inventory Turnaround %,,,

No they didn't say this. They said that any time that is added on for non work related issues, such as security checks, can't be claimed as work and shouldn't be paid.

They made no such ruling that people can be made to work for free.

To respond to those of you who have mentioned the employee theft as the problem are justifying punishing ALL employees because some may steal? I just wish we were as willing to punish ALL Politicians, because some lie and steal....or blame ALL cops when someone is murdered by one......it's a slippery slope when people are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: Grovit

Keep thinking that. Once automation is fully rolled out. You'll just be another capital resource that takes up too much inventory space.

keep saying that.
been hearing it for 15 years.
im not too worried about it.

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
To respond to those of you who have mentioned the employee theft as the problem are justifying punishing ALL employees because some may steal? I just wish we were as willing to punish ALL Politicians, because some lie and steal....or blame ALL cops when someone is murdered by one......it's a slippery slope when people are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

No it's a job. If you want the job you submit to requirements. If that entails a search when leaving so be it. Miners always had their lunch buckets searched, nothing new to see here.
Some jobs require you to put on a tie before work, is that billable extra time in your home?

When was the last time a corporation DIDN'T get what they wanted? To those of you defending this madness, I hope that you get laid off from your cushy job and have to spend the next year filling out application after application until you have no choice but to become another number for one of these slave drivers.

a reply to: Bone75

I hope they never do. They wouldn't have the constitution to endure it. Why do you think so many bankers off themselves when the market dives?

a reply to: MountainLaurel
What the story actually says is "they can make you stay in the work-place without paying you".
Being in the workplace is not the same thing as working.

The more I think about this, the more I think we need to hold SCOTUS to these same standards. Since they are responsible for determining such important moral issues, should not their morals be subject to security checks? Their business dealings, personal dealings should be subjected to whatever scrutiny is required to make sure they are not "Stealing"....um our Constitutional Rights ! Of course the cost of this should come out of their pockets....fair is fair right ?!

That's a bullsh*t union fight. If you have to wait for your paycheck then you wait for your paycheck. I hate unions and union people.

a reply to: MountainLaurel

originally posted by: projectvxn
I used to work at the Amazon warehouse in Fernley, Nevada.

Those security measures are there for a reason. Theft is rampant. It is also covered in the employee orientation BEFORE you are allowed to work there. It is literally something you sign up for and give Amazon permission to do as a condition or your employment. It is in your contract.

Hmm how about that..
people stealing..and they are the ones complaining..
a big LOL to those ripping on me for my opinion on that..
And also yes.. Boss mentality. Ive got to deal with temps eevery

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: MountainLaurel
What the story actually says is "they can make you stay in the work-place without paying you".
Being in the workplace is not the same thing as working.

I understand your point....I would argue that if completing this security check is required prior to leaving work, it is part of their work day.....The time clocks should be located after the security check point.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: MountainLaurel
What the story actually says is "they can make you stay in the work-place without paying you".
Being in the workplace is not the same thing as working.

If Amazon wants to subject their employees to searches, then Amazon should have to pay for it. Its a cost of doing business.

originally posted by: projectvxn
I used to work at the Amazon warehouse in Fernley, Nevada.

Those security measures are there for a reason. Theft is rampant. It is also covered in the employee orientation BEFORE you are allowed to work there. It is literally something you sign up for and give Amazon permission to do as a condition or your employment. It is in your contract.

well how about that people.. direct from a viable source.
Theft is rampant..
like I said. if they dont like it. get another job, unless of course they CANT.
and Yes. for me its Boss mentality. I have to deal with temps every day
that for whatever reason cant hold a job.. it gets old and we become cold

You are being employed for services rendered. If you are not employed for services rendered, you have no need, nor opportunity to be paid for services not rendered. If you are employed, you will be on-site, and any activities pertaining to rendered service will be paid. Any activities relating to work (which should include 'searches' relate to the a priori employment)...and therefore should be a paid activity, since it relates to employment (the premises, on which the employer would not be, if not employed - thus rendering it irrelevant)...

The non-use of tracking mechanisms for stock (re: employees & theft) sees the cost of security being slapped onto the employer, as an excuse to keep prices down - instead of companies spending money on security. A neat way to shift costs, save money...and it appears the authority agrees.

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They could use security methods to determine if employees steal and fire those who do. Instead the typical brilliant security method is to brute force something with lazy and ignorant personnel. Must be using the TSA and Homeland model.