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Originally posted by Chris McGee
It would mean a criminal couldn't just go into a store and buy a gun.
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Uh, why would a criminal buy a gun in a store?
Originally posted by cavscout
Chris McGee, your 10 children a day number is a bold faced lie. They get those types of numbers by including 18 year gangsters shooting each other over drug turf and 19 year old rapists being shot by their victims.
Don't have time now for a more in-depth response, but I'll get you the real numbers soon. In the mean time, could you tell everyone by what percentage the crime rate in your country has dropped with the passage of your victim disarmament laws?
Newly released statistics reported October 13th show that since the British government passed one of the most stringent gun bans in the world in 1997, Britain's murder rate has risen to its highest level since records began being kept 100 years ago.
The number of murders in the first eight months of this year has risen by as much as 22% in some of Britain's biggest cities, which account for the majority of homicides. This builds on a 4% rise in the murder rate in the year to March and is 20% higher than the total for 1997, the first year of Tony Blair's government and the year that strict new gun bans were imposed. Police say random killings are rising. Official figures show the proportion of murders in which the victim is not known to the killer has nearly doubled in the past decade to 31%. The British Home Office reports that handgun crime is at its highest since 1993, while overall gun crimes have never been higher. Since the draconian 1997 gun ban was passed, criminal misuse of handguns has jumped by 40 percent. As in California, much of the gun violence is related to urban youth gang warfare and the illicit drug trade. But petty criminals are now using guns during common street crime. London has surpassed the crime rate of New York City. Robberies, in which criminals use or threaten violence, have gone up by 35 percent in the past year. In fact, Chris Fox, vice-president of the British Association of Chief Police Officers, said the rising murder rate put Britain out of line with America, where it has fallen 12%, and France and Germany, where it has dropped 29% and 27% respectively since 1995.
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Damn it, this sucks, no real discussion, I was hoping that chris would come back and fight for his stand or something. This is turning into a anti-gay rights topic where you have the same people giving eachother handjobs saying good job, good job, hate those gays. Welll, not that bad, but this is in slug fest and only what? 2 people have thrown a punch against me, mwm, and cav?
While I do like people agreeing with me, it is more fun when you can argue, debate, and discuss with people who have a different veiwpoint.
Anyways....also, again, a state with stricter gun control has a higher rate then a state with lower gun control.
Yeah, but...umm...that’s because...umm...oh, I know! All the robber guys must have gotten mad because they couldn’t get those $600 guns they were using to rob a store for $100 (robber guys cant do math, because we need to spend twice as much on schools as we do now) and so they went on a shooting...errr...I mean stabbing spree.
And again, Australia bans guns, now banning swords, knives, and machettes cause guess what? No guns people using swords, knives, and machetes to kill. And of course crime rate has gone up. Just like England, and Washington D.C.