Republicans caving in on promise

Yesterday, nearly 70 Republicans supported an amendment submitted by Rep. Mick Milvaney (SC) to the Rules Committee that would have stopped funding for the President's executive amnesty. The Rules Committee refused to include that amendment in the rule set for a vote today.
53 Republicans voted for the rule and to advance the CR-Omnibus to final debate after they vehemently pleaded their case for the amendment yesterday. Essentially they have given in. One outgoing Congressman, Kerry Bentivolio even changed his vote at the last minute from No to Yes to ensure the rule passed. Mick Mulvaney, who submitted the amendment even voted to move the CR-Omnibus to final debate.

It is no surprise, republicans " dems no better, they both work for big corporations and not the people they represent, the majority" were the ones that always pushed amnesty in the past. Coincidence that they have more members now and it gets pushed. I don't think so. Think it was their plan not Obama's. Politics as usual, lie,cheat,steal,bait,switch. Republicans want cheap labor, they always have and fought for amnesty.

a reply to: Ceeker63

If this was included the bill would not have a chance of passage, which is why provisions in these kind of bills fall into middle-ground changes and not wholesale changes which step-on projects that one political party or another is melded to.

a reply to: Ceeker63 testing

They all suck.

a reply to: Ceeker63

Got love it when a group are voted in on promises to do something. Only to do the opposite.

Boehner needs to go. Out on his ass....quickly.

As I said yesterday in another forum. My belief is that they work together behind closed doors. The arguing and disagreements is all a front. They're all owned by the same people, so why would they not get along?

a reply to: Ceeker63

I don't know all the details about the bill, but I believe both sides compromised. Each side gets something they want and also gives up something they want. It's how government gets things done when they want different things. It's how we avoid deadlock and a WORTHLESS, governing body.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Agreed! It's still worthless though when they go against what they promised to get their votes.

Some politicians lied?

Say it ain't so!

Did anyone honestly think that cheap labor wouldn't carry the day?

The road to truth is found by following the money.

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense. How many times do you need to be told that "corporate interest control politics" not some pie in the sky patriotic, boy scout idealism.

Politics is the art of compromise, and one of the biggest smoke and mirror shows one will ever see in the country. Penn and Teller are amateurs when you stand them next to those who are running for and standing in office. The only difference is that Penn and Teller will tell you that they are BSing you and show you how they did it, and still amaze you with illusions.

Here is what a politician will do in a nut shell: 1) He/she has to get the votes to get into office. Money will only go so far, so they make big speeches and find out what you the voter wants to hear. They already know before the first stop on the campaign how many votes they require to win, and what areas are going to yield it. They will speak, but never the whole truth, and often lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. All to present an image of what the voter wants to see and hear. Think of this way, if you ever hear a politician say that he may or will consider raising taxes, give him a good listen to, because at least he is being honest.

Now they will make promises to get your opinion of them up. And they will hope that come Election Day you vote for them. Now they will make a list of promises, usually about 10 of them. (10 is a good number for this demonstration) And then they will tell you how they are going to accomplish this, and even make a good show of it, and spin talk. Ever notice how the answer is never straight, but a lot of fast double talk when they do speak? Or it is what people want to hear, or sound just like the other candidate of the same party? You see that big time when it comes to presidential elections and congressional elections and primaries.

So they make the promises, get elected and then spend a good half of their time in office, soliciting donations to remain in office, and the other half of their time, stuck cause they can not agree with the other guy and really only managing to get 3 of the 10 promises done. And to make matters worse, they will usually blame the other guy for their failings, when the reality is that they had no intention to uphold most of their promises in the first place.

And what is bad, is that both parties are guilty of such, and ultimately often the same persons get into office, time and time again, cause the voters really just do not care to either vote, in say a mid term election or just refuse to vote at all.

Now the Op has mentioned about the hot button topic of the immigration. And here is the 411 on that. No politician worth his weight or for all of the money in the world is going to touch or actually solve any hot button issue. They can’t afford to, cause if they do, then the real fear would set in, the public would then be looking at what they do not want to see. So take immigration, all of these years, it has been well within the scope of the government to handle and easily take care of. And with the multitude of promises and laws, the only reason why this is still a problem goes back to: the Federal government. It does not want to solve this issue, it is a good issue to beat drums around, get people riled up on both sides of the issue and use as a giant smoke screen to distract from other issues or the backroom deals that they do not want the people to see. So while this is going on, the question that should be on peoples minds, what really is the other thing that they are trying to get through congress?

a reply to: macman

Along with nearly all the rest of congress and government officials. To bad it won't happen...

Some people appear confused. They think Republicans just took over and are now doing this. That is not the case. The Republicans who were voted in have NOT taken office yet. January 3rd is when that happens.