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Drone Strikes vs. Enhanced Interrogations

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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
My only real question about all this is as follows:

If you're so incensed about the drone strikes, why wait until after the CIA report to bring it up if not to conveniently shift focus away from torture?

If you have already railed against drone strikes, I will apologize in advance.


He has rallied before...

It's seems some are so partisan they can't see it's all wrong.

Hence, this is brought up agian to point out worse is still going on.

All the hand ringing and naval gazing over the torture report.

When the exact same people they want arrested for torture.

Are running the Drone Program...




posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: neo96

But there HAS been outrage about the Drone strikes. In fact, it comes up quite frequently when pundits talk regarding the foreign policy of the current administration. This is why I'm confused. And I don't think the WH has said it is "outraged" about the torture report. If they have, again, I apologize.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

The issue is the hypocrisy.

Seems to me if a person was so 'outraged' about torture.

Where is the report of 6 YEARS of drone attacks.

But that 'report' is nowhere to be found.

And the crowd is virtually silent on the issue.

It goes to consistency.


Great points!!

It's hypocrisy and fake outrage!!



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Dude where not 5 here stop the insults, i called your op out because its a propaganda piece, i got nothing againts you, oh and because you dont believe its torture or your ok with it does not make it ok or true.

Ill stop when you change the tittle to drones vs torture it aint that hard.
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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

What to know the ONLY difference between Bush, and Obama ?

Bush doesn't have a nobel peace prize.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Where did obama say he wants the torturers arrested, You guys say hes in charge, i might have missed that part or its just more made up stories



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Oh that makes it worst lol,
There both clowns



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: whyamIhere

Where did obama say he wants the torturers arrested, You guys say hes in charge, i might have missed that part or its just more made up stories


I said some are calling for the people in charge of torture to be arrested.

But, they are all too busy still working on the Drone Program for Obama.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Ah that makes more sense.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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In retrospect, I may see the point here. I previously said pundits have rallied against the Drone strikes, but my finger should be pointed to the WH, who have vehemently defended the drones.

And here is where I can sympathize with both Neo's.

They are correct, the WH defends it's use of drones, but has said that torture is something that's shouldn't happen. In reality, both are terrible and shouldn't happen, but when the current administration decries one and defends the other, it's hypocrisy.

I rescind my previous remarks about pundits. Point taken and absorbed. Carry on!



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: neo96

Oh that makes it worst lol,
There both clowns


Let's tell the truth...

Some people hate Bush so bad they will not admit Obama doing worse.

Some people hate Obama so much they blame WWII on him.

This isn't a partisan issue. Unless, you are unable the change your preconceived notions.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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double post.
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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

No insults.

Like I said, I don't think it's torture.

I would like to see all of your threads about torture in Prisons. If what these terrorist suffered was torture, you must be standing outside of Prisons complaining about torture.

There's no need to call it torture. I don't cry and complain about the treatment of Prisoners in the U.S. which is much worse than some of the things in the report.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Dude go read the definition of torture you seem confused on the word.
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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
In retrospect, I may see the point here. I previously said pundits have rallied against the Drone strikes, but my finger should be pointed to the WH, who have vehemently defended the drones.

And here is where I can sympathize with both Neo's.

They are correct, the WH defends it's use of drones, but has said that torture is something that's shouldn't happen. In reality, both are terrible and shouldn't happen, but when the current administration decries one and defends the other, it's hypocrisy.

I rescind my previous remarks about pundits. Point taken and absorbed. Carry on!


You are open minded and very intelligent.

I appreciate your ability to see through the BS.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Your kiding me right, tittle of the op cant even call torture for what it is and your telling me im blind cause i love me some obama all night.
Obama should off ran for the gop hes the biggest big corp president even worst than bush



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

I don't think the prison system of the U.S. really amounts to torture. If torture DOES occur, it's usually at the hands of other inmates. The worst they probably go through is being put in "the hole" AKA Solitary confinement, but they still have light, are given three squares a day, and prisons are legally required to allow inmates at least one hour of exercise per day. OLDER prisons may have had worse conditions in the past, but most of these old styles of prison have either shaped up to meet new requirements, or shut down.
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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: whyamIhere

Your kiding me right, tittle of the op cant even call torture for what it is and your telling me im blind cause i love me some obama all night.
Obama should off ran for the gop hes the biggest big corp president even worst than bush


I'll give you the point about the title.

This all started on another thread.

I think all of us could agree on one thing....They all Suck.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Sorry to say but i love you man



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: neoholographic

Dude go read the definition of torture you seem confused on the word.


Again, it's not torture.

This is why the DOJ under Obama will not prosecute anyone. This is because at the time, these techniques were approved by the DOJ and Members of Congress.

Like I said, if this is torture, than many things that happen in prison is torture and much worse than anything in this report.

Where's your post complaining about torture in American prisons? If this is torture then Prisoners are tortured by being on lock down 23 hours a day.

What did Obama's CIA Chief just call these things? Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.

Like I said, you can cry about these things and be a hypocrite who never cries about the torture in Prison if you want to, but killinh 10 yeal old boys with drone strikes is much worse.




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