My thoughts on the CIA Torture "revelations"

a reply to: nullafides

WHY? Because we got LAZY or too CHEAP for HUMINT? Clinton signed a law stating we couldn't use FELONS as assets and here we are.
THAT is why WE ARE STUCK with this crap.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: nullafides

WHY? Because we got LAZY or too CHEAP for HUMINT? Clinton signed a law stating we couldn't use FELONS as assets and here we are.
THAT is why WE ARE STUCK with this crap.

First of all, that wasn't me you were quoting, it was Grovit.

Second of all, all three of us are pretty much in alignment here.




-NF

a reply to: nullafides

K.

reminds of when, a guy named Donovan,,went too see a felo in prison, lucky guy,,
was promised a Pardon,,

it was the promises not kept.

But should have ended with Joe.

Sorry,,was thinking outloud,,
and then the C.I.A was born.

U know like American Dad.

yeah.

originally posted by: BobAthome
reminds of when, a guy named Donovan,,went too see a felo in prison, lucky guy,,
was promised a Pardon,,

it was the promises not kept.

But should have ended with Joe.

Sorry,,was thinking outloud,,
and then the C.I.A was born.

U know like American Dad.

yeah.

Yes, and like Rick says to Louis, "...I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

a reply to: AngryCymraeg


This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

originally posted by: recapitulated
This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

Well then, whether you like it or not, what you're telling us is that the bad guys won. You've been reduced to their level.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: recapitulated
This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

Well then, whether you like it or not, what you're telling us is that the bad guys won. You've been reduced to their level.

This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

originally posted by: recapitulated

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: recapitulated
This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

Well then, whether you like it or not, what you're telling us is that the bad guys won. You've been reduced to their level.

This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

Um...injuries happen in every theatre of war, as tragic as that may be. But, unless I'm missing the point, you may as well be posting on-the-job injuries from GM. Neither reflect American torture.

Um...injuries happen in every theatre of war, as tragic as that may be. But, unless I'm missing the point, you may as well be posting on-the-job injuries from GM. Neither reflect American torture.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

my replies are constantly timing out.

You are from Canada???

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: recapitulated
This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

Well then, whether you like it or not, what you're telling us is that the bad guys won. You've been reduced to their level.

putting words in my mouth!!!

Here is what I said

This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

originally posted by: recapitulated
putting words in my mouth!!!
Here is what I said
This and thousands of other reasons just like it are why
I do not care why or how we tortured the enemy.

And my point is that if we do not care about how we treat the enemy, if we now dismiss the moral high ground as irrelevant, then we have reduced ourselves to their level. And if that has happened...then we lost. Cuz sometimes all that's left is honour, and that should not be pissed away.

originally posted by: recapitulated
Johnny, get over the juvenile habit of putting words in
others mouths, unless you are a king or an editor of course.

Hey, you wanna let the bad guys define your own morality, fill yer boots. I chose otherwise. Happy trails, eh?

a reply to: recapitulated

We is a term that shall only be used by kings, editors, and people with tapeworms.

so i take it u have never cheered for the Toronto Maple Leaf's??

or New York Jets?

We sure beat them tonight,, is both acceptable and encouraged,,,called fans.

And Kings may use it as well.

Los Angel's Kings the hockey team.

www.nbcnews.com...

pretty frightening stuff here compared to
beheadings and rapes of children.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: kelbtalfenek

With all do respect for your opinion as a Marine who served our nation, and my sincere thanks for doing so...

We have all been "told" something in our lives. We've been told alot.

Being told something is not the same thing as the truth. Neither are ideals.

That being said, I've also connected with all the Marines I know, both in and out of active service. To a one they all agreed that while vile, interrogation and torture as the means of such, is a necessary thing.

I concur.

Again, thank you for your service. I will be eternally grateful to you for that.


-NF

I respectfully disagree with their opinion. If they knew that NO beneficial and verifiable information has ever come from torture, I doubt they would still agree.