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Michigan House Passed Bill "Religious Freedom Bill" - Dangerous?

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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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Very Dangerous legislation for everyone possibly or a good law? Does a "Slippery Slope Effect" come into play here? And they get to hide behind the law.

One side says it's protecting people's religious freedoms and the other side says it's going to allow people to discriminate.

I changed the title because I think this legislation encompasses many areas, but many people are concerned about this bill being passed.

Can anyone else see a major du-du storm brewing over this bill being passed? Let's debate this one.

Can Refuse Treatment based on religious beliefs


Rep. Vicki Barnett, D-Farmington Hills, said the legislation could create a new right for service providers to discriminate against people who don't adhere to their religious beliefs. She cited a scenario in which a pharmacist could refuse to dispense drugs to an individual who's personal decisions don't match the teachings of their faith.

"I should not be forced to follow the religion of my pharmacist," Barnett said.

Barnett and other Democrats said the bill would create legal conflicts with the state's anti-discrimination law and spawn a rash of new lawsuits.


Religious Freedom Bill Michigan



He cited several examples of protections, from the baker who doesn't want to provide a wedding cake to same-sex marriage couple to the Jewish mother who doesn't want an autopsy on her son who died in a car crash. Both cited religious beliefs as reasons in their cases.

"This is not a license to discriminate," Bolger said. "People simply want their government to allow them to practice their faith in peace."

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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth
It is about the right to refuse service and not being forced to go against your religious beliefs like some other states have done. The writer using an EMT refusing service to a gay person is just sick conjecture on their part.

It isn't even law yet, it has only passed the house and hasn't reached the governors desk yet.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth

If opportunistic gay people weren't running around suing the pants off of everyone that refuses to participate in their weddings, we wouldn't need laws such as this.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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No ,wrong ,stupid idea...again.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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I have no words for such utter fawking stupidity..quit being an EMT if your feeling you can pick or choose..where is this bullsh%t coming from?
I should stay away from here for awhile..my blood pressure.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth



yeah. just.... wow.

on a plus note. if an EMT comes across a KKK member in distress. he could just think he's gay and deny to treat him.
Because why would a man be in a white dress?



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Realtruth

Let them do that. Then immediately send them looking for a new line of work.
Playing God isn't in the job description....yet.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Bone75

You need your head and heart examined..might of stopped beating



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_

Do NOT take a job involving people then..I cant believe the sh%t Im reading.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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Nice t see lots of people didn't really read whats it's all about.




posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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Land of the Free...Home of the Brave...


They're gonna have Gays wearing badges like the Nazis did with the Jews...




Smell the democracy in The Grand Ol' US of A.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Any business should have the right to refuse service and for good reason. This has nothing to do with gay people, you got sucked into an article that is pure hyperbole. If you read through the article they fail to mention until the very end this little bit, but I'm sure most will fail to actually read:


In a supreme bit of irony, the Michigan House over the weekend to pass a non-discrimination bill that protects the LGBT community.


Yes the gay haters also passed a bill protecting gays oh the irony. Maybe because it isn't about the LGBT community all the time even though they try to make it be.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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The bill says nothing about treating gays. This is just a bad writer trying to stir up crap.

using the writer's logic,a gay EMT will not have to treat a straight patient.
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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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Although the example in the OP is a rather extreme example... No matter how remote the possibility, it's still a possibility.

The broader issue is that is opens the door for discrimination, which is never a good thing. While I believe people should be free to practice their religion, whatever it may be, that practice of religion should not come at the expense of others. This is why Sharia law is not allowed in the U.S., and why this bill should be veto'd.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

That analogy is incorrect. Being gay isn't a religion. A gay EMT would still be required by law to treat a straight person, unless of course that gay person follows a religion that demands all straight people be put to death.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
C'mon Charlie..don't you you know if it weren't for the gays out there expecting the same as the rest of us
"we wouldn't need laws like this"
I honestly think my IQ dropped about 25% just typing that crap
The guy who posted that is probably all about less govt ..less laws..oh except for the gays.
edit (could be wrong)


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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_
Yup I just read the post..so maybee its not for real?..regardless I don't know how it works in the U.S. but EMTs..here are not a business..its called an essential service. The concept is ridiculous as far as any medical services being denied.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod

I honestly think my IQ dropped about 25% just typing that crap
The moron who posted that is probably all about less govt ..less laws..oh except for the gays.


Actually I'm a diehard Socialist who totally supports gay marriage. I just don't appreciate you guys using it as a political weapon to attack Christians.

Assume away my friend and sorry about your IQ.
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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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edit on 10-12-2014 by Bone75 because: that was weird



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Unfortunately all medical help here in the states has become a business, but there are laws in place that prevent the refusal of treatment. So this whole article is a big load of garbage written in a way to get people wound up over nothing.



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