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The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

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posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Indigent

I have several relevant thoughts:

1) Each of my 20-something daughters have met their future spouses. They seem to have worked out a balance in each relationship and are happy and healthy couples. Not every male is hiding under a rock and hiding from women. People get married everyday---and seemingly happy and healthy people.

2) Males have led society for more than a millennium---since the Pagan times. When balance shifts, it is like a pendulum and frequently swings the other way before finding balance in the middle.

3) Allowing more female imput into society is a good thing. Fewer wars, less testosterone, more balance, the possibility of nurturing and compassion in society towards other nations and one another. It's time for balance. The world needs it. It certainly isn't working this way.

4) Women are not solely here to fold socks and make dinner for men. We possess as much intelligence and potential as males. This is hard for males to deal with, but the times are changing and we're hearing our calling to make more of a difference in the world.

5) I know several couples where the wife is working and the husband is at home with the kids. Why do there have to be traditional roles? Why don't we let family's decide what works for them?


edit on 9-12-2014 by MRuss because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
a reply to: SearchLightsInc

Wow, what brilliant insight.

You know where a perfect place for men to evolve would have been?

A men's club.

Oh wait, we can't have that any more.

Maybe we should start earlier?

Scouts?

Nope can't have that for boys either.

Maybe if you want men to evolve, feminazi's should stop screaming bloody murder every time a couple men try to get together and create a place specifically for men to sit around and discuss men.


You do realise how petty your post sounds? How can men evolve if their so bitter at non issues??

Good news though, some men have clicked on and decided to evolve - survival of the fittest eh???



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Well it didn't take long for people to discount completely what the OP was saying, and just chalk it up to more Misogyny against Feminism.

Laughable.

The fact that men's culture is demonized, while women's culture is celebrated should be evidence enough that radical Feminism is harming both sides.



That's something I like to post in these conversations ,because it's relevant and true.

There is plenty of inequality on both sides. Why we choose to focus on one in particular, while maintaining the idea, that talking about the other is somehow insulting to the former, is ignorant.

~Tenth


Yep even more proof is all those women teachers having sex with their students ?

Don't get the same attention when their guys.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Well it didn't take long for people to discount completely what the OP was saying, and just chalk it up to more Misogyny against Feminism.

Laughable.

The fact that men's culture is demonized, while women's culture is celebrated should be evidence enough that radical Feminism is harming both sides.



That's something I like to post in these conversations ,because it's relevant and true.

There is plenty of inequality on both sides. Why we choose to focus on one in particular, while maintaining the idea, that talking about the other is somehow insulting to the former, is ignorant.

~Tenth


Yep even more proof is all those women teachers having sex with their students ?

Don't get the same attention when their guys.


This is off topic.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: SearchLightsInc




It's only a stupid question because you feel it points out the absurd generalisations you made about how woman use their time. The engineering field has been dominated by men since forever, woman being able to go university (and actually being taken seriously in male dominated fields) is a relatively new thing - which makes your previous broad statement laughable.

Don't call me a feminist and the tell me you don't care if I am one or not when I tell you I'm not a feminist.

You don't have the intellectual depth for this thread. You see far to black and white.



Oh right and all women have evolved due to feminism, and all males have yet to evolve. Speaking of absurd generalizations—didn't you say something like this? I guess black and white thinking and Intellectual depth applies to everyone else but yourself.

Then show me where all the females wanting to be engineers are. Let's see these line-ups where men are blocking the doors.

You call me macho; I call you feminist. I guess we're even, besides your propensity for hypocrisy.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: SearchLightsInc
Ah, so it is petty when a man wants his own private space, but it was worth the fight for women to take it away?

You realize that YOU (not people like you, but you) are exactly why men are opting out.

Why bother with the hypocritical BS, when you can just opt out.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: Indigent uninterested of our reproduction needs and start behaving as fat mouses, withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming themselves but doing little else.


this is me. the ultimate quiet lifer.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Indigent


Look no further than the LGBT movement and agenda.

How the laws to accommodate their "needs" have impacted everything we say and do. Someone is always offended now-a-days.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: SearchLightsInc

originally posted by: Indigent
Society is heading towards its own destruction, we will become uninterested of our reproduction needs and start behaving as fat mouses, withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming themselves but doing little else.

This seems to be happening to males due to the consequences of feminism, according to this long but interesting report.




Never before in history have relations between the sexes been so fraught with anxiety, animosity and misunderstanding. To radical feminists, who have been the driving force behind many tectonic societal shifts in recent decades, that's a sign of success: they want to tear down the institutions and power structures that underpin society, never mind the fall-out. Nihilistic destruction is part of their road map.

But, for the rest of us, the sight of society breaking down, and ordinary men and women being driven into separate but equal misery, thanks to a small but highly organised group of agitators, is distressing. Particularly because, as increasing numbers of social observers are noticing, an entire generation of young people—mostly men—are being left behind in the wreckage of this social engineering project.

In short: they grew up, dysfunctional, under-served by society, deeply miserable and, in many cases, entirely unable to relate to the opposite sex. It is the boys who were being betrayed by the education system and by culture at large in such vast numbers between 1990 and 2010 who represent the first generation of what I call the sexodus, a large-scale exit from mainstream society by males who have decided they simply can't face, or be bothered with, forming healthy relationships and participating fully in their local communities, national democracies and other real-world social structures.

Social commentators, journalists, academics, scientists and young men themselves have all spotted the trend: among men of about 15 to 30 years old, ever-increasing numbers are checking out of society altogether, giving up on women, sex and relationships and retreating into pornography, sexual fetishes, chemical addictions, video games and, in some cases, boorish lad culture, all of which insulate them from a hostile, debilitating social environment created, some argue, by the modern feminist movement.


The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

Please read the source before drawing conclusions on the short part I sniped out of it.

I wont go to deep into this but i think is a matter that could draw some important discussion here on ATS, being a male around the age described in the article i feel represented by some of the points it made. Men are becoming second class, men actions are more scrutinized than equal actions by women, and in many instance the word of a woman condemn us.


Almost all young men have attended mandatory sexual harassment and anti-rape seminars, and they know that they can be fired, expelled or arrested based more or less on the word of any woman. They know they are basically guilty until proven innocent in most situations.


All this is due to extreme feminism that preach equality having in mind woman superiority


Women today are schooled in victimhood, taught to be aggressively vulnerable and convinced that the slightest of perceived infractions, approaches or clumsy misunderstandings represents "assault," "abuse" or "harassment." That may work in the safe confines of campus, where men can have their academic careers destroyed on the mere say-so of a female student.


what would happen is a men goes around with a t shirt saying i bath in the tears of women? I dont know but it seems its totally ok for the other way around.



Is this the end of society? doubtful, in my opinion some generations will be spoiled before a paradigm shift occur and endless cycles will happen again, perhaps some of us are withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming ourselves playing video games all day just because its addictive and we like to be slobs but prefer to blame feminism of our choices, in any case the article makes a representation of current society that may worth to analyze.


Should we really be worried, in a world that is populated by 7 billion people that a few men in the Western Hemisphere are giving up on sex and relationships because they feel women cannot meet their needs?

No we shouldn't. Your rant against feminism is pure ignorance.


You should worry, radical feminism is like a physical and mental disease, it mutates, causes chemical changes in the brain and produces vitriolic fluid from every pore making the host feminist completely toxic. Feminism is not equality and it's certainly not egalitarianism.

It only takes one generation to destroy a species. Personally, I think feminists should receive equal amounts of abuse in the courts as do men. I helped a married male friend with that once, but it was almost 30 years ago in a more normal time. She went to jail for embezzlement and grand larceny, and he kept the kids, the house, the little bit that was left in the accounts and his dignity. This was after she blew his $90k inheritance and 8 months of mortgage payments on her boyfriend ;-)

I think we need more justice like that ;-)

Cheers - Dave
edit on 12/9.2014 by bobs_uruncle because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ~Lucidity


Say what?


How many inventions by women do you use on a day-to-day basis?


Here's a short list of things women invented or discovered...

Circular saw
Liquid paper
Nuclear fission
Submarine telescope
Retractable dog leash
Refrigerator
Car heater
Windshield wipers
Medical syringes
Computer algorithms
Dishwasher
Wireless tech
CCTV
Flat-bottomed brown paper bags
Central heating/gas furnace
Kevlar/bulletproof vests
Beer
DNA double helix
Opioid receptors in the brain
Signal flares
Blissymbol printer
Liquid paper
Fold-away/cabinet bed
Solar paneled homes
Scotch-Guard
Invisible glass
Half of the Mark I computers and COBOL
Electric mixer
Pedal trash can
Smoke-stack emissions deflector
IV cath shield
Radioactive metals
Stem-cell isolation
Ironing board
Apgar score
Exterior fire escapes
Electric hot water heater
Globes
Locomotive chimney
Nystatin
Geobond
Drip coffee filters
Stove
Secret Communications Systems/Spread Spectrum Communication Technology
Optical Anaylsis Systems
Laser cataract surgery
Snugli
Disposable diapers
Bra
Beehive
Canister vacuum
Radioactive-decay wavelength separation
Radiation detection device
Elevated railway
Engine muffler
Rotary engine
Street cleaners
Many medical patents
Many textile patents
Traffic signals
Turn indicators
Carburetor
Clutch mechanism
Electric engine starter
Spark plug insulation
Alumina ceramics
Life raft

"Yet, the history of women inventors is as long as that of their male counterparts....

Still, by 1910, inventions by women accounted for less than 1% of all patents issued in the United States. Why?

The answer lies, in part, in women's position in the social order."

Do a little reading...

And a little more...



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: MRuss




5) I know several couples where the wife is working and the husband is at home with the kids.


That just sums up how pathetic society has become. A man sits at home with the kids while he sends his wife out to work. Unheard of 40 years ago. How shameful.

What happened to nature and women who look for a good provider and father figure. How can ANY child respect their father for sitting at home like a loser.....their sperm count just dropping day by day and their testosterone levels plummeting.

Who is to blame? Hmmmm i wonder



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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I'm 22. Single, and kind of semi-good looking (hopefully, cross your fingers). And the reason why I'm disgusted with most men is because they are scared of everything. Like I literally don't want to date someone that won't stick up for me in any given situation, especially if it is considering another guy hitting on me. So whereas I understand where this article is coming from given the whole feminism leading the world BS, I think a lot of men are using it as an excuse to be giant scardey cats. Or that's how my ex-fiance was.

Good article though, nevertheless. Thanks

June



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: projectbane How can ANY child respect their father for sitting at home like a loser


this would infer that a woman in the same role must also be a 'loser', no? or is 'loser' status acceptable for women but not men? raising kids is damned hard work and takes YEARS of commitment and dedication. i salute anyone who makes it work, male or female.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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This thread is funny. Lot's of guys keep posting that women have taken everything away from them.

I don't see it. It's petty complaining and poor me from these guys. It's okay. step away from the video games and walk outside and you'll see that women haven't ruined the world, most of them are still pretty nice. They'll date you and marry you and life is good.

I think these feelings come from low self esteem. I'll give you a cure for that. Try Martial arts. Try a traditional one with a belt system where it takes you around 4 years or more to get to black belt. That will help.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: SearchLightsInc

originally posted by: Indigent
Society is heading towards its own destruction, we will become uninterested of our reproduction needs and start behaving as fat mouses, withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming themselves but doing little else.

This seems to be happening to males due to the consequences of feminism, according to this long but interesting report.




Never before in history have relations between the sexes been so fraught with anxiety, animosity and misunderstanding. To radical feminists, who have been the driving force behind many tectonic societal shifts in recent decades, that's a sign of success: they want to tear down the institutions and power structures that underpin society, never mind the fall-out. Nihilistic destruction is part of their road map.

But, for the rest of us, the sight of society breaking down, and ordinary men and women being driven into separate but equal misery, thanks to a small but highly organised group of agitators, is distressing. Particularly because, as increasing numbers of social observers are noticing, an entire generation of young people—mostly men—are being left behind in the wreckage of this social engineering project.

In short: they grew up, dysfunctional, under-served by society, deeply miserable and, in many cases, entirely unable to relate to the opposite sex. It is the boys who were being betrayed by the education system and by culture at large in such vast numbers between 1990 and 2010 who represent the first generation of what I call the sexodus, a large-scale exit from mainstream society by males who have decided they simply can't face, or be bothered with, forming healthy relationships and participating fully in their local communities, national democracies and other real-world social structures.

Social commentators, journalists, academics, scientists and young men themselves have all spotted the trend: among men of about 15 to 30 years old, ever-increasing numbers are checking out of society altogether, giving up on women, sex and relationships and retreating into pornography, sexual fetishes, chemical addictions, video games and, in some cases, boorish lad culture, all of which insulate them from a hostile, debilitating social environment created, some argue, by the modern feminist movement.


The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

Please read the source before drawing conclusions on the short part I sniped out of it.

I wont go to deep into this but i think is a matter that could draw some important discussion here on ATS, being a male around the age described in the article i feel represented by some of the points it made. Men are becoming second class, men actions are more scrutinized than equal actions by women, and in many instance the word of a woman condemn us.


Almost all young men have attended mandatory sexual harassment and anti-rape seminars, and they know that they can be fired, expelled or arrested based more or less on the word of any woman. They know they are basically guilty until proven innocent in most situations.


All this is due to extreme feminism that preach equality having in mind woman superiority


Women today are schooled in victimhood, taught to be aggressively vulnerable and convinced that the slightest of perceived infractions, approaches or clumsy misunderstandings represents "assault," "abuse" or "harassment." That may work in the safe confines of campus, where men can have their academic careers destroyed on the mere say-so of a female student.


what would happen is a men goes around with a t shirt saying i bath in the tears of women? I dont know but it seems its totally ok for the other way around.



Is this the end of society? doubtful, in my opinion some generations will be spoiled before a paradigm shift occur and endless cycles will happen again, perhaps some of us are withdrew from the company of others entirely, eating, sleeping, feeding and grooming ourselves playing video games all day just because its addictive and we like to be slobs but prefer to blame feminism of our choices, in any case the article makes a representation of current society that may worth to analyze.


Should we really be worried, in a world that is populated by 7 billion people that a few men in the Western Hemisphere are giving up on sex and relationships because they feel women cannot meet their needs?

No we shouldn't. Your rant against feminism is pure ignorance.


You should worry, radical feminism is like a physical and mental disease, it mutates, causes chemical changes in the brain and produces vitriolic fluid from every pore making the host feminist completely toxic. Feminism is not equality and it's certainly not egalitarianism.

It only takes one generation to destroy a species. Personally, I think feminists should receive equal amounts of abuse in the courts as do men. I helped a married male friend with that once, but it was almost 30 years ago in a more normal time. She went to jail for embezzlement and grand larceny, and he kept the kids, the house, the little bit that was left in the accounts and his dignity. This was after she blew his $90k inheritance and 8 months of mortgage payments on her boyfriend ;-)

I think we need more justice like that ;-)

Cheers - Dave


And yet he sat there and watched her commit the crimes and didn't do anything about it? He didn't try to stop her? Sounds like to me he was a big pushover and didn't know how to man up and prevent his wife from ruining their household. She might have done those things against his judgement, but if they were married, he could have stopped it or at least gotten he the care she needed so she didn't feel obligated to commit those crimes. There is always a way around things if people would just bawls up and try.

June



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: projectbane
a reply to: MRuss




5) I know several couples where the wife is working and the husband is at home with the kids.


That just sums up how pathetic society has become. A man sits at home with the kids while he sends his wife out to work. Unheard of 40 years ago. How shameful.

What happened to nature and women who look for a good provider and father figure. How can ANY child respect their father for sitting at home like a loser.....their sperm count just dropping day by day and their testosterone levels plummeting.

Who is to blame? Hmmmm i wonder



On the flip side of the coin, how can any child respect a man that walks away from his responsibility and leave it all to the mother? I think young men opting out to watch violent video games (which degrade women) and specific types of pornography geared to only men's sexual desires and fantasies, is not only an opt out of having to put effort in to change society that will benefit them, but it is also a cop out from being responsible for their own lives and the choices they make.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I would say that compassion and perception are heralded signs of an evolved person.

These traits are biologically inherent in females, which means in some areas, we are more evolved---as a vast generalization.

Women have been subdued by men for many, many centuries. That truth is aptly reflected in society and the current state of things.

It might be behoove the world to have more estrogen floating around this corrupt and violent world and less testosterone. All water seeks its level. Perhaps the Universe is the same way.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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The gender divide in this country is just another symptom of the sickness of our society. EVERYTHING has become polarized and extreme. There are no rational sides left on ANY debate. The only people arguing for men's rights are chauvinist pigs and the only people arguing for women's rights are feminazis. Both are trash, both people/groups are society's garbage that is stinking up the place.

We are all bring tricked into buying into THEIR narrative. THEY form the "sides" as extreme as they are, and then YOU are tricked into buying into one side or another. The idea that you can form your OWN opinions and not simply be a mouthpiece for a given "movement" or "group" is beyond the comprehension of most people. Side A or Side B. That's the only thing that exists in both people's minds today.

We don't have a race or gender issue in this country, we have a HUMAN problem in this country. That of apathetic, ignorant, emotionally unstable and reactive people running around becoming the majority. Race issues and gender issues are a SYMPTOM not a CAUSE which is why I will never support these feminist morons anymore than I'll support the MRA morons. They are both just controlled sides that we are expected to buy into.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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Apparently men are going through this even when their women are doing EVERYTHING for them, including taking out the trash, paying all the bills, the grocery shopping the cooking the home repairs cleaning toilets shoveling snow and a job too.

Or maybe that is just mine?
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posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: peck420
a reply to: SearchLightsInc
Ah, so it is petty when a man wants his own private space, but it was worth the fight for women to take it away?

You realize that YOU (not people like you, but you) are exactly why men are opting out.

Why bother with the hypocritical BS, when you can just opt out.


I'm firmly pro male, but I really think you're reading something into that particular poster's opinions that simply isn't there.

When he/she says "evolve", it's not being used as an insult, and I'm not seeing the hard core feminism in her posts that others are.

For the record, this Omega Male, Opt Out stuff is garbage. Suck it up, take care of yourself, seek out women that see the world the way you do. You don't like feminists, don't date one.

This Opt Out stuff is for bloody sissies.
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