The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: Kali74

I agree with that. Dating's like trial and error basically. Go with it until you find the right one.

Dating is emotional suicide. lol

Imo that best way to meet people is find groups of people with similar interests, then do things with the group, meet people and find a person that interests you.

Take the time to observe them interact with the group over time, if that particular person still captivates your interest, then pursue something more concrete.

Dating like we do in the USA is madness, and again imo causes unwanted chaos.

a reply to: sirhumperdink

before you spent real time together and actually knew each other thats rational

Maybe you should re-read.

People change and grow through their whole lives, sometimes in that process relationships don't survive. That's just life.

a reply to: Kali74

ill take your word for it
sleep well

originally posted by: SystemResistor
Most recently, the new "weapon" in this "war" is statistical information - if you have not done a statistics course then you generally take the "percentages" as a given, however, you would be surprised at what they can get away with in tabloids - heavy generalisations and many "assumptions".

For example, there is the population characteristics, lets say they interviewed 50 people from one city - then they say that such and such percentage of "men" and such and such percentage of "women" - really it only applies to that city, and not men and women in general, and 50 people might not really be enough to apply to the population of an entire country or the world.

I've been reading this thread from the beginning, but have abstained from contributing (and probably will for the rest of the duration,) but I needed to give you some applause for this. The more you learn about statistics (as in graduate level classes,) the more you realize that statistics are "completely true" while still being "completely manipulated to produce the desired results" unless it is "completely impossible to do so".

originally posted by: Kali74

People change and grow through their whole lives, sometimes in that process relationships don't survive. That's just life.

Maybe the traditional marriages have outlived their usefulness perhaps?

And maybe the way we view relationships and need to possess the other party should change as well. It appears that with the disposable society we live in today, survival rates of long term relationships are a thing of the past, and we should all get use to parting ways when things don't work.

So basically be happy for the other person when they want to move on.

a reply to: Realtruth

It's all personal choice. Me? I can't be happy if my partner isn't and I'd rather let go so that we both may find that person but it can take a little bit to realize that it's reached that point.

Others will stay because they made a commitment. Their choice (hope it's their partners choice too).

a reply to: Indigent
Oh ya its pretty messed up out there. But you know...Oh well # happens. Though it is wise to stay away from women, or at least the majority of westenized women, lets just say its like snoop dog once said. Keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind, and as long you do that, you will have little trouble with females out there, but as soon as you forget that. Oh man that whole love crap flies out the window and fast. And I am quite sure there are many a guy who can attest to that fact.

I mean its hard to be in the same room with some of them without them making your skin crawl, and some even through the internet make your skin crawl, bizarre I know, but there it is. But in all? Ah people making to much on this thing, it will pass, so many things going on that you can best be sure that it will get much worse before it gets better. That is if it ever gets better. Either way I dont see what the big fuss is about, I for one welcome our new robot female overloards and strange bizarre wayword culture were everybody is either a bot or a singleton, to tell the truth it sounds a hell of a lot better then what we got now.

Sad but true...But you know...Whatever.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
Likely hit the nail on the head. Unreal expectations and burdens have been the downfall of many a civilization, and off course pretty much every relationship out there since time was first invented. And considering that you got civilization pushing it day in and day out, and considering most women pretty much do what they see and do or whats on TV, as well as pretty much follow the herd blindly, well its pretty much set up to fail, like every other product out there is made to break, it keeps the rats going on the wheels you know as society, the rat race. But in all were else can it go but down? And so that's were its going.

a reply to: Kali74

Agreed.

Ideally our happiness or sadness should not be hinged on the other parties state of mind, but rather our emotional strength should come from within. Again Ideally.

In the western culture everything is hinged on the external, hence we blame all of our woes and troubles on the other party, and many times don't take responsibility for our own choices. This is where we, as a culture, get into slamming the other-side for everything that has gone wrong.

How on earth can any relationship survive the test of time if this is the mentality?

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

I agree the bigger concern is for western society in general. Falling birth rates regardless of the reason behind them doesn't bode well considering the higher rate of growth in other societies. My prediction is the future will belong to western society bolstered by advances in robotics or Islamic society based on current demographic projections.

Perhaps a society ruled by women hasn't existed in human history for any extensive period because it lacks viability. Though greed and selfishness are probably the bigger problem today because only in ones wildest imagination is our current society ruled by women even if they are more empowered today than ever.

a reply to: TycoonBarnaby

My question is always who paid for the study.

Nothing is free -- and everything has an agenda.

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
"I think it has less to do with "feminism" (as such), and speaks more to the unrealistic expectations of women today. They want their suburban mansion, picket fence, 2.5 kids, and (most importantly) the envy of their peers. And if they don't get it, they'll simply move on to the next mark."

I'm giving you a big ol' star because you hit the nail on the head with that statement!, I wish I wasn't in such a position to say every woman I've come across in relationships is looking for $$$.

It aint so much the women looking for money. After all cant do things without it no matter who you are or what gender you are, though females are females, its kind of what do you expect. But the majority of the fact is that the whole thing due to such brilliant leaderships and awesome decisions as we have had here in the states is leading down a path were it will force everybody sooner or latter to be in the rough. The majority of human mating is purely social and societal interaction, that whole love thing has gone way overboard and created some bizarre structures all of which unrealistic and not maintainable, that and well lets just say that even when everything is maintainable females are the last to be capable of that.

There is a quote by Nietzsche, I forgot it now. Anyways the # is not important, its about how beasts of burden overburden themselfs with unnecessary ethics and false believes and what not. Its kind of the same here, I mean everywhere you look you got this unrealistic view of how the male is supposed to be and how the female is supposed to be, ie overburdening yourself for no reason.

And lets face it, nobody is what they think they are and most especially what they believe they are. Most dudes are nowhere near the unquestionable shaking fortress or bread earner or bacon getter guy or whatever motif tickles your fancy. And most women? Well a few minutes in the company of one would tell you that all the books and movies they seen on how love is supposed to be and how all women are and they believe themselfs to be. Well lets just say they fall short of all that, by miles short, gaping grand canyon short.

You have basically two beasts of burden, male and females asses going around thinking and believing there something they are not, and no matter how much veneer you put on them, well it aint going to change squat. And thats were burdening yourself quote from Nietzsche comes in...Its stupid to try to keep up with the cardashians or whatever, its not only that, but its suicide now a days, and most especially for dudes, since most females just kind of wait around to see what they pick up...So ya! opting out of the whole thing is just may be the practical thing to do...Besides plenty of females elsewhere, so why waste your time with something that has never worked or never will never work.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby

My question is always who paid for the study.

Nothing is free -- and everything has an agenda.

Having worked in academia and been paid by entities that wanted results, you are spot on. That is always the question that needs to be asked.

I don't regret any of the "commissions" I accepted, but I guess I have scruples (maybe, depends who you ask.) I know many colleagues who are more conflicted as to how they use their knowledge though.

a reply to: nullafides

I feel that society has forgotten something. Women and Men compliment each other. Need each other. We both bring something necessary to the table. If nothing else, look at the act of procreation as to proof. Sure, thanks to science, both genders are not necessary.


Where I believe that in many, many places the genders are equal, there are some places they are not. Not all men are stoic and proactive. Not all women are emotional care givers. But, in this case, I think that opposites find each other and attract each other.

In all things, I am drawn towards common ground and compromise. Extremes are repulsive to me. Both from men and women.

The idea that we can live without each other, IMHO, is misguided and delusional.

True but also not true, its sometimes better much better to be by yourself. In fact I believe most of this drama and this whole feminist thing started when some genius had the bright idea to try and force together what would be the equivalent of a clean freak with a slob and call it love. You know the shoe must a fit, or else the people coming over for dinner who we never meet before and never likely again may frown on it all....That is till they literally get under each other skin every single second of the day. I do believe there is more to it then that. Some may say contrasting things do not mix well.

Besides maybe the genders are not necessary. They create to much drama as it is. And besides that, maybe were wasting time and effort on the wrong things. I for one say, forget putting so much resources in any of that, maybe we should do like the Japanese are doing and put all our resources and time in creating female robots. Think about it. At the least it would be awesome, we can even equip them with guns or hidden missile launchers, and all kinds of stuff, and make them super smart and all that, the robots with guns part will sell in Merica like hotcakes if they ever get working models up to production.

I mean, # NASA and the hell with the whole guberment thing, and we put to much money into the military anyways, what good is having all these toys and thousands of gadgets to blow up things when you dont even use them, complete waste of billions and billions of dollars. Maybe we should put our time and effort and moneys in robotics and oh ya. Think about it. Maybe its a good thing that all of this is going on, and maybe if the genders really do blow apart, well that just means everyboy will have more free time on there hands and better things on there minds, and not so much wasted time playing the rat race or that whole love thing or arguing why oil and water go together like a clean freak and a slob go together so well.

What I am saying is...Look on the bright side of the downfall of the male and females genders thing. Don't be so gloomy.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: InTheLight

You have the choice to turn to pornography to meet the needs deemed the most important, I suppose; invented by men to serve men and degrade women.

Yes, because women have NEVER looked at pornography... It is just a male hobby designed to degrade women.

That was it's original intention, to serve men using and degrading women. These days, with women's varying degrees of sexual freedom, some women may opt to participate without judgement, by choice, if they so choose for varying reasons; one may be that they can satisfy themselves sexually. I would also not be surprised if those at the top of this industry (all men?) aren't trying to cater to women's sexual appetites and desires for the almighty buck.

Off course they are, porn is a bizzness after all. In fact it may just be 50% of the internet, the other 30% being cat videos and off course there is the rest, like this site. A minority no doubt the low 20%, but in all its obvious that even this whole feminist thing failed big time, even the whole feminazi thing is a big failure, what considering how many women go into porn, and some by choice and some not but everybody needs money, and seeing were all equal now. But you would think this whole female empowerment thing would do more then sponsor some very rich peoples and groups agendas.

Basically what I am saying is, I think as of now, the majority of this whole feminist movement while it may have started out something, and may have achieved some things. Well right now...Its all a joke, and so far even if you strip it all away, It has not even done all that much for the betterment of female kind as you all put it. But hey it even seems having a successful line of queens in that island called England for generation has not done much for there plight either. So really its not even about who is in charge. Basically its all a joke once you remove the talking heads and regurgitated rhetoric's.

Besides I have seen some of these guys. And lets just say they did not have to rope women and drag them to get them to come to them. The majority of them go of there own free will, so no. Its not all men catering to the almighty buck. In fact it generaly takes two to tango.

As much as I could go on about men and bitterness & women and expectations, the best way to put it succinctly is:

You get what you seek.

If all you can see is the negative of the gender, then you will be a magnet for it, over and over again - until you get the lesson.

I hear someone say almost weekly "why are there no decent men/women out there", followed by listing all of their complaints. If you think everyone else is the problem, you need to consider that the common denominator in that, just might be yourself, your attitude and your perspective that you alone have chosen.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

The other reason porn is geared towards men is our sexual desires far outstrip those of women on average. You never hear about men withholding sex in a relationship or using it as a weapon to gain the upper hand because for most men there is no such thing as too much sex ever.

As crude as it may sound it's in our genetic make up to spread our seed as far as possible whenever possible. Societal pressures, duty and devotion to a single female and the family you would produce together are the main reasons men hold back from their primitive urges. We are conditioned into a monogamous society because it is for the good of society and our duty.

I don't speak for every man and I'm sure many will see my post as a good opportunity to get some PC brownie points but often with men duty is a stronger force then love. Duty to their wife, their children and their society in general. That of course doesn't mean duty does not contain an element of love.

a reply to: Goldcurrent
An apt video.

Mice in a cage, its what we all are. It is no surprise that they fell apart, mice were never meant to live in cages no matter how big or how well fed they are, its bound to fall apart. And it will for humans to. There are a lot of shenanigans going on around here on this planet, the whole way civilization is set up may just be one of those shenanigans. Animals are just the products of there environments, and humans last I checked were still categorized in the animal category.

Its bizzare no? How much these mice mirror what is going on in our society now, and most are not even aware of the things going on around them. Who knows eh. It could be that to much information we have today in our information age is not only broadening the total human psyche as a whole, but its also definitely changing things around a whole lot. I beleive that if you were frozen and tawed out in the future, it would be more bizzare then your system would be able to handle, and that eventually could be were we are heading.

I dont think it has anything to do with overpopulation, we still got plenty of space, in fact around here in the northwest you could go camping and hiking for weeks or even months or probably years over miles and miles of woodland and not see a single human, in fact you could trek over land that would be the equivalent of some countries in Europe or the middle east or other parts.

Overpopulation is likely not the culprit. Technology, I would say more so, and that will change the human mind in its own ways especially they younger generations and coming generations, but the gist of it I believe is just the ups and downs of adjusting to new things. That and the fact that maybe we were never meant to have so many things at our disposal, even the human mind can fry itself if it were capable of knowing all. And off course like the mice we live in what I would term not quite natural human cages called societies.

It says one of the conclusion in the video on the mice was that they were never used to or even meant to live in such large groups in such close quarters in a plastic maintained society. That to mirrors our would, just look at this Dunbar Number, seems this whole Facebook thing or mass communication and all the constructed sense of security or comradeship it creates may be more harmful then helpful in the long run. And it just may be that humans while our society has evolved beyond the hunter gatherer and tribe group stage, our minds and everything else we do in terms of self propagation have not. If like the link says is true and the human mind can only really know or contain at the most 150 friends or close relatives, then what is this phenomenon with having thousands and thousands of facebook friends?

We may as well change the friends list and do like the soviet Russians once did and call it the comrade list, or how about the internet person I once talked to list? Or just the internet acquaintance list? It would be much more truer then the friends list. And that may as well go for everyday life as well, in fact maybe living in big metropolises may not be good for you at all. Or at least it will last up in till and only as long as the glits and glamor does. And even that may have a bigger effect on the human psyche over time then we would know or possibly be able to know. But why is it all done and maintained? The rat race off course. And off course it has to be maintained, or else the whole thing like the mice in the fancy and spacious boxes would implode in on themselfs.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: sirhumperdink

I tell you, I have been through some rough, rough stuff at the hands of a man. Abusiveness does not know a gender, being an asshole doesn't know a gender and being stupid for falling for one doesn't know a gender either. I've also known amazing men had some incredible relationships and friendships with them and have traded of being the one wronged and being the one who made mistakes. I wouldn't erase one of those relationships even the really bad one, they helped shape what I want from a relationship, helped me learn how to navigate them and honor the person I'm with as well as learning that I too deserved to be honored. And now, I am with a fantastic man and am truly happy and if for whatever reason it doesn't work out I will value everything I learned from my time with him, regardless of how much it hurts for however long and then I will take my knowledge to my next relationship.

That's what grown-ups do.

I despise feminists with a venomous passion, but I love women who are just that...women. Not driven by an agenda of hate or retribution directed from a time that none of us even lived in. You are right, there are jerks from both sides but it's the feminist agenda of trying to emasculate men, emasculate boys before they become men, blame all men for the sins of some from the past and making men today pay the tab, and abusing the affirmative action card (government assistance) to spearhead an illusory image of all women being victims of men. For just being a woman, and not succumbing to this politically sanctioned diatribe....I respect you, and you are aces with me!