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The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
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I have an active recreational sex life with equally consenting girls, and I make no secret that I'm not interested in being in a serious relationship with anyone right now, maybe I've not bumped into the 'right' one yet, but I'm certainly not searching to fill any void in my life.

I love being able to dump my work clothes on my bathroom floor and leave them until washing day without anyone moaning at me. [/shudders]



I'm with you. And I am female.

I'm all for recreational sex. My social life involves interesting groups I can go to, socialize with interesting people, then go home alone to my sanctuary.




posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: InTheLight


invented by men to serve men and degrade women.


Here is the inherent fallacy of the feminazi.

1) You do not speak for all women any more than I can speak for all men. You speak for one, and that is all.

2) Sexual attraction is subjective. Also, there is nothing inherently degrading about videotaping sex. Also, no one is forced to become a porn star--doing so is an individual choice.

Some women like porn, some do not. Your entire position can be summed up as "anything I like is feminist, anything I don't like is oppressing women."

You don't get to speak for all women. I think Jenna Jameson would karate chop you--she has made very logical arguments to support the porn industry.


Here's the fallacy of using the term "Fem-Nazi" - Until feminist have rounded up 6 million men and sent them to concentration/death camps purely for being men, you should really pack it in using that term because you're disrespecting history by likening your "struggle" to actual Nazism.

Feminists are not in political power. They did not remove traditional breadwinner roles from men - The messed up economy did. The roles of woman have fundamentally changed over the past 50 years but you need to accept that women NEVER belonged purely in the household in the first place.

Men are victims of family courts and female on male rape that isnt taken seriously enough. Everything else is just a lack of identity caused by a world that is ever changing.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Annee
Haha brilliant...and it certainly fits with my experience in that regard which tells me our genders aren't much different at a base level.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: SearchLightsInc

I don't believe the term "Feminazi" was coined to paint feminists on the same level as the the Third Reich.

A more accurate term may be "Militant Feminists", though even that isn't entirely true beyond perhaps the psychology of some of them believing they are "at war" with men for whatever reason.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

It's a truth that many from both sexes are often unwilling to speak about. This is especially true for Women, though. we don't admit to enjoying no-strings casual sex because that would make us "sluts" in society, whereas when Men do the very same they're seen as "Alpha male studs". Myself, I go out on the weekends, I drink with my coworkers after work (That seems to be some cultural thing in Japan, you gotta drink with your coworkers after work! Shake off the day! Wear your tie as a headband and stumble home! I find that obligation tiring sometimes, honestly, but it is a good way to connect with your peers.)

I go to clubs and dance like a bastard and even sometimes bring some starry-eyed young man home for a quick romp between the sheets, or if home isn't a great option, I'll have them buy a few hours at a love hotel.

Does that make me a slut? Nah. I'm just human, with human desires, and I don't really want the drama and obligations that come with a relationship right now.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: SearchLightsInc

I don't believe the term "Feminazi" was coined to paint feminists on the same level as the the Third Reich.

A more accurate term may be "Militant Feminists", though even that isn't entirely true beyond perhaps the psychology of some of them believing they are "at war" with men for whatever reason.


It is suppose to be offensive to feminists but when you really look at the terms that have been coined, as you've stated "Militant feminists/Fem-nazis" you see what picture that individual is trying to paint - As if woman have banded into a specialist unit with one objective: The destruction of men - It is misleading.

If there was truly a war on men it would be over very quickly. Either men would push back or women would now be ruling the world politically.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: HiroProtagonist

Social interaction/interpersonal skills require practice with all sorts of people. I am curious why you choose to smoke MJ and play video games, instead of getting out there and accepting volunteering opportunities and/or join special interest clubs? Do you have any special interests or talents that you could share with others and meet new people?


Well like I said, dominantly introverted. Not easily accepted or understood by extroverts. We're seen as broken and in need fixing.

I like my solitude and I hate it at the same time. While I prefer being alone a majority of the time. Doing it constantly leads to loneliness. Being in a relationship with a extrovert would get me the social interaction I need.

I can only imagine positive and progressive results. Getting me out of my comfort zone and experiencing things I would otherwise choose not to do.

To a degree video games are an escape of reality. Mostly it's the satisfaction of task and reward. Some people like to fish, I like to play video games.

Would I ever pursue a career in video game development? No, coding isn't my thing. I'm more hands on physical labor kinda work.

Marijuana is just a substitute for alcohol (like I said, don't drink) and I don't abuse it. These things don't keep me from going out in pursuit special interests.
I don't really have special interests or talents that I'm aware of.

So yeah, did I "opt out" by choice? Certainly, I'm not out there trying and failing repeatedly. Reality, unlike video games, carries a heavy emotional psychological drain when failing. Even though it's safe to put life on easy mode and opt out, it just gets repetitive and boring real fast.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: corvuscorrax

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: HiroProtagonist

Social interaction/interpersonal skills require practice with all sorts of people. I am curious why you choose to smoke MJ and play video games, instead of getting out there and accepting volunteering opportunities and/or join special interest clubs? Do you have any special interests or talents that you could share with others and meet new people?


As he said he's an introvert. I am as well, I can communicate quite well when I want to but that's just it, I usually DON'T want to. I can relate as I have a hard time spending extended periods of time around people I'm comfortable with, let alone new people. Also with depression, volunteering is the last thing you want to do at least from what I've learned over years of struggling with it. You don't feel attached or a part of the world around you and in many ways you detest it, and as such have no desire in doing things that in your mind validate it.

This of course being my own view and experience on the matter (I have many similarities with Hiro, just a bit younger and unemployed) But I would say he would agree with some of my points perhaps.


There are many different volunteering opportunities where you don't have to face people if you don't want to, like packing food in boxes in the back for a food bank...working behind the scenes and interacting with very few people. But, the point I am making, is that a little effort to help yourself is better than no effort at all.


The point of depression is you don't want to actively participate in society at large, whether directly or behind the scenes.
You don't really want to 'better yourself' in the traditional way of making money or things like that either. For me my volunteer efforts involve helping the people I care about. Watching my nieces for my brother or helping my good friend and his wife move again or mowing my moms lawn. Not going and packing food for random strangers or getting a job for some tycoon that doesn't even know who I am.

But hey it's depression and introvert-ism wrapped in one. Romance and traditional family life are not for folks like us. Some have a hard time coming to terms with it (I did when I was still in school) and others are content to hide their pain and get on with it as best they know how.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: SearchLightsInc

I agree totally with your point. They ARE trying to paint the "Feminazis" as a group intent on destroying men. I never said it was a correct conclusion to paint them as such.

Unfortunately, the loudest and most radical of a group, regardless of their original intentions, tend to be brought into the spotlight, so the side of Feminism most people see if the "Militant" ones are genuinely DO want to marginalize men.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun
Totally agree!
I was angry many times growing up when my twin sis was deemed a slut for carrying out the same activities as me but because she was a girl the rules were apparently different for her. Never understood it and had a few fights to change some knuckle dragging cavemen minds about that lol.
Yep, the challenges my sis faced 'as a woman' were much more complicated than mine, and I'm so glad we've moved on a bit in the last few decades.
It ain't perfect yet but it is definitely getting better. I only hope that it doesn't go the other way with revenge fuelled instincts from past oppression of women.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: SearchLightsInc


Here's the fallacy of using the term "Fem-Nazi"


It doesn't matter if you don't kill 6 million men. The word Feminazi works because Feminazis use the same poor logic as that of any tyrant.

Gross over generalizations of both sexes.
The redefining of words to suit their outlook (double speak).
Holding double standards.
Appealing to government to ban things that offend them.


Like the guy that recently landed a probe on a comet and the ridiculous backlash over the shirt he was wearing. The people that were offended should have been ignored. That sort of behavior is the reason we have deemed these people Feminazis.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I do not disagree that there are women out there that hate and despise men. I feel just as sorry for them as i do for men who hate and despise women. I just think its ignorant how people talk about feminism these days, i genuinely think its a dead movement and cant understand why there's such a fuss against it.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: LewsTherinThelamon

Ugh, every time I see that poor scientist in tears over the flurry of hate poured his way it makes me so mad.

So the guy wore a tacky shirt, it was probably his LUCKY shirt, and he wanted the landing to go well. Scientists DO have lucky items they like to keep, not all scientists are immune from superstition.

But the poor guy wears a tacky shirt and suddenly "THIS IS WHY WOMEN CAN'T GET STEM CAREERS!"

I really just wanted to the hug the poor fella and tell him we're not all like that.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: corvuscorrax

Yep, you nailed it both times. It is hard to come to terms with and has taken several years to comprehend. It helps a lot to know I'm not alone in it.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon

It doesn't matter if you don't kill 6 million men. The word Feminazi works because Feminazis use the same poor logic as that of any tyrant.


We both know that by calling someone a nazi you're referring to Nazism that was politically present in Germany between the 1930's till the end of WW2. How ironic though that your calling a woman a nazi when violent nazism was male dominated - Naizsm valued a woman's position in the home as a wife and mother. You must be pretty ignorant of the facts to not know that.



Gross over generalizations of both sexes.
The redefining of words to suit their outlook (double speak).
Holding double standards.
Appealing to government to ban things that offend them.


Im not redefining anything, i'm explaining the lack of logic in calling a feminist a "Nazi" - Its a paradox intended as an insult.


Like the guy that recently landed a probe on a comet and the ridiculous backlash over the shirt he was wearing. The people that were offended should have been ignored. That sort of behavior is the reason we have deemed these people Feminazis.


When a woman recently suggested that british bank notes should feature a woman she got death and rape threats from men on twitter. I guess both sexes are capable of being irrational eh?



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: HiroProtagonist
a reply to: corvuscorrax

Yep, you nailed it both times. It is hard to come to terms with and has taken several years to comprehend. It helps a lot to know I'm not alone in it.


Guys like us are a fast growing demographic I think!

Good life to you man we'll make it through.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: SearchLightsInc
I guess both sexes are capable of being irrational eh?

Absolutely. There are men who still oppress women all over the world, and there are equally free women in the world who seem to be desperately looking for something to moan about. I've only ever come into contact with extremist feminist views online...perhaps it's just an interwebs/first world problems thing and because said views are often the loudest they appear more supported than they really are?



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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Well I read the article and it struck me that someone is trying to pass off a complete lack of situational awareness and a lack of social skills, the inability to be patient and to build up a relationship and nuture it by blaming "feminism"/women in general and calling it "The Sexodus".



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I know. I felt horrible for him.

What makes me so angry about it is the fact that people don't understand that sexual attraction is subjective. Getting angry because his shirt portrayed women in "overly provocative poses," because they don't want women to be objectified; makes the assumption that only men could find pleasure in the shirt for its sexuality. They disregard lesbians and bi-woman that could find pleasure in the shirt.

There is also the assumption that sex is bad. Or that seeing something as sexual is bad. Which is utterly ridiculous when considering the fact that human beings are intrinsically sexual.

They don't get angry when men are portrayed provocatively (and they shouldn't).

But, it's not just the entire human form that people derive sexual pleasure from. I could draw a picture of a hand or foot, and someone somewhere will find it provocative (because people have those fetishes).

Finding sexual pleasure in a person does not objectify that person. There is nothing wrong with appreciating someone because, from your perspective, said person is attractive.

Sex is not evil, and neither is sexual attraction.



posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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Yeah, this is all a bunch of petty whining. Feminism, helps females. That's basically it. It hasn't destroyed America or the world. Men can still find dates and get married. The men that whine and cry about this are those without any social skills and self esteem. There is help. You can change your life around and stop being a victim.




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