NEWS: Source: Fingerprints of Jackson, Boy On Pornographic Magazines

good point Fred, I wouldnt settle either, thats what makes me think he was innocent. why would any parent go for money if he/she beleived hed done that to their child?

DO I like MJ? Don't know...I've never met him. Do I like his music...about 25% of what he has done, I like, I'm not into the pop thing but I think when someone puts out as much as he has there's going to be something you like....do I think he's a bit odd? Yes I do, but most of us would be if we had been brought up and lived the way he has...is he guilty? Don't know....being odd doesn't make one guilty....you not liking someone doesn't make one guilty....if he is...bury him!!!! If he isn't leave him alone. What I DO know is he is an easy target for those wanting money, and his remark about nothing wrong sleeping together meant "sleeping" in the same bed together...not having sex.....people just jumped on that as an excuse.....I'll wait till the law can figure out if he is guilty or not.

Originally posted by SourGrapes

I saw 'live' television of his arriving at the court house a while ago. There were hundreds of people with signs and yelling of his innocense. They say those 'hundreds' of people actually met at the ranch, bussed in to the courthouse, and even PAID for their appearance. He's still putting on a show! This man does not act like an innocent man. (IMHO)

Now, as you can see the highlighted words above, who say, exactly? I've seen alot of people (ATSers and the public in general) taking rumours and using them as facts, what was our motto again...ah yes, deny ignorance.
Michael Jackson may or may not be guilty but he has the right to a fair trial and be innocent until proven guilty. 'Wacko Jacko' does not appear to have all of those rights, does he? Yes, he may look different, and I admit that his feelings towards children do not appear normal, but does this mean that we should automatically presume that he is a child molester'er and a paedophile?
When one takes alook at his upbringing, it seems he missed out on having a proper childhood, which could very well be why he's making up for it now, as he seems to have childlike tendencies in general; from his relationship's with the opposite sex, his family, animals, his social status and yes, children.

It could very well be that one of the world's biggest superstars is guilty of the crime accused, but I hope we can be a little more open minded of the possibilities, that is, after all, what ATS aims to do.

Originally posted by LadyCool21

Now, as you can see the highlighted words above, who say, exactly? I've seen alot of people (ATSers and the public in general) taking rumours and using them as facts, what was our motto again...ah yes, deny ignorance.

Since when did I say anything of my post above was fact? I was merely giving an opinion. "They", was the media. Do you live in the U.S.? This was speculation from the start! I never said, "It's a FACT that his fans were paid!"

courttv.com...

Excert:

Hundreds of fans from around the world will be on hand for Michael Jackson's arraignment Friday to support the pop icon facing child molestation charges, his brother, Jermaine, and other supporters said Monday in Encino, Calif.

"We feel the district attorney has a personal vendetta against Michael, and we want to make sure he knows we will not accept that," said Najee Ali, one of the coordinators of the "Caravan of Love," which will transport fans from southern California and Las Vegas to the courthouse in Santa Maria.

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Well, they (fans, btw) sure didn't PAY to be transported! Fans transported from southern California and Las Vegas? I sure would see this as being PAID! They did get a free trip, didn't they (again, "THEY = FANS")

So, Ladycool, do you ever give opinions on this site? Or do you simply 'cut and paste'?

You're right, "Deny Ignorance", LadyCool!

(BTW, when I state anything as FACT on this board, it will be followed up with links and appropriate quotes! Notice the "IMHO" at the end of the above paragraph. That means "In My Humble Opinion")

[Edited to provide link]



[edit on 13-12-2004 by SourGrapes]

What category of pronography ? Of big busty buxom women ? If so, the Attorney General had better consider this one very carefully. The Defence might seek to have it admitted instead.

Originally posted by FredT
A pornographic magazine seized at Michael Jackson Neverland ranch has been found to have both the pop stars fingerprints as well as those of his accuser. The magazines seized in a 2003 raid were part of an attempt to collect evidence to support the allegations of child molestation. A variety of items were seized including some wine bottles. A Santa Barbara Superior Court Judge will decide which items of evidence can be used in the trial set to begin January 31.

 

www.cnn.com
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Fingerprints of Michael Jackson and those of his accuser have been found on "pornographic magazines" seized during a raid on the pop singer's Neverland ranch, a source familiar with the case told CNN.

Investigators raided Jackson's Los Olivos, California, property based on allegations of child molestation in November 2003 and seized a variety of items from the entertainer's estate, including items from his bedroom and master bath, sources said.

Investigators reportedly found a "collection" of pornographic magazines, and other periodicals in those rooms, and fingerprint testing was later performed on those materials, sources said.

CNN has also learned that authorities seized wine bottles found on the property, and those have been forensically tested as well, sources said.



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The allegations of child molestation are nothing new here. Jackson with his freakish appearance and behavior, seems to be a likely suspect. Innocent till proven guilty, but he seems to have convicted himself before the trial has even begun. Jackson has already admitted that he finds nothing wrong with sleeping with pre teen boys in his bed and has paid off at least one molested child�s family. I hope that if he is guilty, he is locked away for a long time. The trial will allow him a chance to defend himself, but in my mind he is a guilty as OJ.

I am glad you said that, I think most of those jurors were paid. I always said we live in a sad sad world when money and greed excel over love, even the love of your own children.

I believe he is guilty also, OJ guilty however money got his acquittal, Casey Anthony I feel is guilty as sin, sad that money bought her freedom over a beautiful innocent child. However God sees all and her day (punishment) will come, it has already started. She apparently cannot go out or find friends, her whole life she will be runing until she does end up somewhere not wanted.

Look OJ was acquitted and yet he is in jail for something else. Gods punishment

MJ money talked again and the children live with it sad sad world.

Punishment was death so some extend however there is another story behind that one.