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originally posted by: gorsestar
a reply to: mikeone718
And that's how profiling turned into harassment. I'm so constitutional we won't agree. I'm gonna say everyone should've opted to carry guns instead of giving up constitional rights.
originally posted by: hammanderr
You know, when average, hard working, productive people try to claim that the whole system is rigged against them they are usually referred to as paranoid schizophrenics.
When a hard working guy claims he's getting mugged on the street by lowlife thugs then burgled in his home by those thugs cousins, he gets called a bigot.
When some white loser gets 5 DUI's and finally gets his license revoked we call him an alcoholic.
So why is it that when black criminals get caught and put in jail we call them victims?
originally posted by: 3u40r15m
What point are you bigots on here trying to prove.... somebody make a thread pointing out white peoples nonsense.
In the early hours of Saturday, May 15, 2010, ten days before his seventeenth birthday, Kalief Browder and a friend were returning home...
An officer said that a man had just reported that they had robbed him. “I didn’t rob anybody,” Browder replied. “You can check my pockets.”
The officers searched him and his friend but found nothing. As Browder recalls, one of the officers walked back to his car, where the alleged victim was, and returned with a new story: the man said that they had robbed him not that night but two weeks earlier.
Browder had already had a few run-ins with the police, including an incident eight months earlier, when an officer reported seeing him take a delivery truck for a joyride and crash into a parked car. Browder was charged with grand larceny. He told me that his friends drove the truck and that he had only watched, but he figured that he had no defense, and so he pleaded guilty.
...because Browder was still on probation, the judge ordered him to be held and set bail at three thousand dollars.
...On the morning of July 28, 2010... “How do you plead, sir, guilty or not guilty?”
“Not guilty,” Browder said.
...an assistant district attorney sent the court a “Notice of Readiness,” stating that “the People are ready for trial.” The case was put on the calendar for possible trial on December 10th, but it did not start that day. On January 28, 2011, Browder’s two-hundred-and-fifty-eighth day in jail, he was brought back to the courthouse once again. This time, the prosecutor said, “The People are not ready. We are requesting one week.”
... June 23, 2011: People not ready, request 1 week.
August 24, 2011: People not ready, request 1 day.
November 4, 2011: People not ready, prosecutor on trial, request 2 weeks.
December 2, 2011: Prosecutor on trial, request January 3rd.
...For a defendant who is in jail, the more a case drags on the greater the pressure to give up and plead guilty. By early 2012, prosecutors had offered Browder a deal—three and a half years in prison in exchange for a guilty plea. He refused.
...On February 17th... “Your Honor, the assigned assistant is currently on vacation.”
...In the fall, prosecutors offered him a new deal: if he pleaded guilty, he’d get two and a half years in prison, which meant that, with time served, he could go home soon.
... June 29, 2012: People not ready, request one week.
September 28, 2012: People not ready, request two weeks.
November 2, 2012: People not ready, request one week.
December 14, 2012: People not ready, request one week.
...On March 13, 2013... Judge DiMango explained to Browder, “If you go to trial and lose, you could get up to fifteen.” Then she offered him an even more tempting deal: plead guilty to two misdemeanors—the equivalent of sixteen months in jail—and go home now, on the time already served.
... he said. “I want to go to trial.”
...On May 29th, the thirty-first court date on Browder’s case, there was another development. DiMango peered down from the bench. “The District Attorney is really in a position right now where they cannot proceed,” she said. “It is their intention to dismiss the case.”
originally posted by: AgentShillington
originally posted by: whyamIhere
originally posted by: AgentShillington
Black people are convicted of crimes more often than white people, that doesn't mean that black people are committing more crimes than white people, it just means that they are being -prosecuted- more often than white people.
I think you may be right.
Are there any facts to back that up....Curious ?
A few links to stories with sources.
Even though America's legal-education and civil-rights establishments have created a massive industry devoted entirely to uncovering even the barest shred of evidence pointing toward white racism in the justice system, the net result of their efforts has been nothing more than an occasional study showing a miniscule, unexplained racial disparity in sentencing, while most other analyses continue to find no racial effect at all.
originally posted by: Greven
Perhaps the case of Kalief Browder is an outlier... but what if it isn't, and his resolve to see a trial instead of plea is what changes his statistic on the board - from "incarcerated criminal" to just another man on the street?