Trans Pacific Partnership-This is the dirtiest deal you've never heard of

2 min. video explains how some are trying to fast track TPP
again. It would allow big corporations to sue governments for
billions if their laws or regulations interfered with the corporations
expected future profits. It threatens everything you care about:
democracy, jobs, the environment, and the Internet.

Call your Senators and Representative.

The link below will connect you with them.
_www.StopFastTrack.com_ (www.stopfasttrack.com...)

Easy email action at:
cms.fightforthefuture.org...

And the Governments Webpage on the subject. www.ustr.gov...
A bit of a contrast don't you think?

and this be our motto "in corporations we trust"
and the webcams in triumph shall spy,
o'er the land of the corporate owned and the home of the slaves.

Seriously, they are not even trying to hide it anymore.
Might as well start accepting corporations as Gods and call it a day.

a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

As long as people vote for the Corporate candidates, nothing will change.

There -is- an alternative.

a reply to: ugmold

Jobs, the environment, democracy, the internet.

Is there anything in this bill that benefits the American people?

a reply to: EA006

Is there anything in this bill that benefits the American people?

Benefits...[laughing, gasping for air].......American people.... [more laughing]....WHEW.
Oh. You were serious?

a reply to: ugmold

TPP was about isolating China and to maintain US dominance in the Pacific. However it failed by China its counter move to make its own trade pact plan :

Apec summit: Chinese trade pact plan backed by leaders

Source

This is the dirtiest deal you've never heard of

More than 1 million Europeans heared about it and against TTIP and CETA.

Subject matter:

We call on the institutions of the European Union and its member states to stop the negotiations with the USA on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and not to ratify the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) with Canada.

Main objectives:

We want to prevent TTIP and CETA because they include several critical issues such as investor-state dispute settlement and rules on regulatory cooperation that pose a threat to democracy and the rule of law. We want to prevent lowering of standards concerning employment, social, environmental, privacy and consumers and the deregulation of public services (such as water) and cultural assets from being deregulated in non-transparent negotiations. The ECI supports an alternative trade and investment policy in the EU.

STOP TTIP

Has anyone ever watched "Continuum" ? Minus the time travel this TPP deal reminds me a lot of the show and whats going on present day and what the future may hold.

On a side note I hope they pick up a 4th season!

a reply to: maghun

More than 1 million Europeans heared about it and against TTIP and CETA.

Nice work, now spell TPP.

TPP and TTIP, Two Different Trade Agreements, Both Will Have the Same Disastrous Results

economyincrisis.org...

originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

As long as people vote for the Corporate candidates, nothing will change.

There -is- an alternative.

Is there really anything but "corporate candidates"?

Both Dems and Republicans get tons of corporate money. obviously it takes money to get elected.

a reply to: sirlancelot

Is there really anything but "corporate candidates"?

Both Dems and Republicans get tons of corporate money. obviously it takes money to get elected.

No...voting is a sham! A revolt by the American people is in order.

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

As long as people vote for the Corporate candidates, nothing will change.

There -is- an alternative.

Is there really anything but "corporate candidates"?

Both Dems and Republicans get tons of corporate money. obviously it takes money to get elected.

Yes there are. I voted for a man named Evan Fulchuk of the "United Independent Party who was running for Governor of Mass. The deal was if he got 3% of the Votes, which he did, the Party would be recognized for future debates instead of excluded.
I also Vote for 3rd Party Candidates. It does make a difference as I have just shown.
F' the Corporate Filth.

I've heard of it.

An integral milestone for the Global Scientific Dictatorship.

Would you prefer to be ruled over by the outdated and barbaric systems of control such as nations, religion, and democracy?

a reply to: ugmold

The next "real" war, as opposed to corporate sponsored misadventures with the military, will be between the general population (a term used in prisons) and the corporations.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: amicktd

I agree with u to a point. But a revolution will play into their hands. The best strategy in my mind is to stop voting in numbers, take these numbers and march on the poll stations. Why should the "Elected Government" be allowed to prevent a fair vote and we can not. No violence would be required, just numbers and it would grow when people start to see that the mass are not falling for the sham voting system allowing the country (every country) to be hijacked by corporate and big bank and demand to be represented and not the interests of a few. Moaning under our breaths isnt going to change anything. There has to be a starting point for everything, so why not start as the way you mean to go on....at the voting poll and more people than ever will be out in numbers.

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

As long as people vote for the Corporate candidates, nothing will change.

There -is- an alternative.

Is there really anything but "corporate candidates"?

Both Dems and Republicans get tons of corporate money. obviously it takes money to get elected.

I voted Green Party for President last cycle. Jill Stein, to be precise, the most successful female presidential candidate in history, getting 1% of the vote.

It actually takes very little money to get elected. What it take a lot of is votes.

I learned about it in high school. And yeah it was about isolating China but it didn't end up working. What's this got to do with voting?

a reply to: ugmold

Out spinless US puppet goverment in Austraia signed this deal and only this morning on the news I heard stories from grape growers in Carnarvon about a 1,000 ks north of Perth in Western Australia are going broke because they can't compete with the cheap imports from California in the US.

These fility stinking mongerals must have known this was going to happen so it demostates that our fedal goverment is more loyal to the US goverment than it is to their own people.

We the poepl, in Australia have never been told what contents of this deal are and the spineless govt still afraid to tell us whats in it.

Just what sort of sumbags are these bags of crap?

originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
and this be our motto "in corporations we trust"
and the webcams in triumph shall spy,
o'er the land of the corporate owned and the home of the slaves.

Seriously, they are not even trying to hide it anymore.
Might as well start accepting corporations as Gods and call it a day.

This, in my opinion is totally expected, and since those people who are in the top level of seeming power and influence are supportive, for one reason or another, of the same things as our US president, the UN, CFR, Bilderberg, and others. Many or most of those are 100% playing along with these same agendas which follow that "globalization effort", which has been using all those same tactics and methods as Marxism, Communism, and socialism as a vehicle to turn and move things forward into a central control of all world infrastructures, like trade, commerce, politics, religion. the internet, and everything else under the sun, to be able to have those claws in everything that happens in the world today.

And people have made it happen by using good and nice talk to all the voters out there, while saying it is all for some other reason, but secretly having other ulterior motives which I mentioned above about gaining power over everything, and only a small percentage of people, or maybe more, but still not enough to stand up and make it stop, are aware of it.

For proof, just look at what all these liars say, and then watch what they do instead. (just like what you mentioned above).

The small arms trade treaty shows a good example of this, and so many other things they are doing, while they don't do jack about economic problems, but focus instead on all the things that take away power from the common person, and give it to their own sphere of influence, (which is hand in glove with foreign governments), and in opposition the the US constitution.

Speaker John Boehner just committed the equivalent of treason the other day by cooperating with Harry Reid over the spending issue, as if he is in fact a democrat and conceding power to them, even though the voters voted for the opposite and won.

The status-quo they are supporting, is also in opposition, and contrary to the results of the last big voting day, just like it never happened.

The people should arrest and put these people in leg irons and chain them up inside an equipped railroad boxcar just to give them a sneak peek at what they are now making an effort for the rest of us, (whether wittingly or unwittingly), to experience in our futures.

I think the blockbuster arrogance and self pride of these fools is why they don't even try to hide what they ar3e doing, simply because they are so full of the deceit of themselves and others, that they can't even see past their own noses.

originally posted by: [post=18745847]amicktd

Is there really anything but "corporate candidates"?

Both Dems and Republicans get tons of corporate money. obviously it takes money to get elected.

No...voting is a sham! A revolt by the American people is in order.

Well? Get started then. I keep hearing people, not just you, saying things like "It's time to fight back!" and "I won't take this anymore!" who are on ATS day after day saying it. When are you actually going to take this action you want others to do?


For the record I've said before on the forums I think open revolt is a bad idea and that I personally have to weigh a lot of factors in before I could go running out "guns blazing" so to speak. However if you all who keep saying "enoughs' enough it's time to stand up" would do so, maybe that be the inspiration for others too.

If you're not willing to do that then maybe you should advocate to people to be MORE aware and MORE involved in the voting process. The thing that is killing us as much as the politicians is public apathy and ignorance.