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BAALBEK - Pre Roman Thousands of Years Old - ANCIENT CAVES

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posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: JamesTB

The thing is these marks/grooves (Baalbek) don't appear to have been made by chisels. That's the conundrum.



So what is that image of? Context remember?

We were speaking about one stone and you seemed to have switched to another??


This is as much context as I can give you.

Here’s a Russian Team from the Laboratory of Alternative History taking some measurements –











They don’t look like chisels mark to me.




posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: JamesTB

Thanks for the attempt at context. And what did that Russian party come up with?

You have images do you have link to their page?

Edited to add here is a link

Large stone being cut up - interesting





My remarks on iron chisel was with the first stone you put up not with the ones from what appears to be elsewhere.

It might be useful for you to post a link to where the photos are coming from.

However, in the close ups I note that the lighter lines seems to be inclusions in the matrix of the limestone itself but its not entirely clear.


edit on 8/12/14 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: JamesTB

The Romans did not build the Temples in Baalbek. They have similar design but Baalbek was a major home to the Giants of the Bible. No man could lift or even think about moving most of the stones there. Its no shocker that every door or opening-entryway is huge. They were big buildings for very big people. They were sons of the Watchers IE: The Fallen ones.

Baal was a real god, a Watcher and this is where he was worshiped, that is his Temple where they did blood sacrifices of humans to him.

These caves were made by Humans to get the hell away from the Giants.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: JamesTB

The Romans did not build the Temples in Baalbek. They have similar design but Baalbek was a major home to the Giants of the Bible. No man could lift or even think about moving most of the stones there. Its no shocker that every door or opening-entryway is huge. They were big buildings for very big people. They were sons of the Watchers IE: The Fallen ones.


The people who actually excavated the site seem to disagree with. Care to point to the passage in the Bible that says that the Giants were at that site?


Baal was a real god, a Watcher and this is where he was worshiped, that is his Temple where they did blood sacrifices of humans to him.


If Baal was a real god why were his followers using rocks?


These caves were made by Humans to get the hell away from the Giants.



Inventive but, do you have evidence to support that?



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 04:52 AM
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originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: JamesTB

Thanks for the attempt at context. And what did that Russian party come up with?

You have images do you have link to their page?

Edited to add here is a link

Large stone being cut up - interesting





My remarks on iron chisel was with the first stone you put up not with the ones from what appears to be elsewhere.

It might be useful for you to post a link to where the photos are coming from.

However, in the close ups I note that the lighter lines seems to be inclusions in the matrix of the limestone itself but its not entirely clear.



Using your pics I have deduced how they moved them. Obviously those rubber tires are contemporary to the quarrying of the blocks.



In regard to Baal worshipper use of stone tools. They were inexpensive, effective, and readily available. Any metallurgy would be comparatively expensive and not as readily available( if it existed). Any metal would be better utilized as a chisel or some temple item that had a strong religious attachment to it.

A lot of people view preColumbian Natives in The Americas as Stone age yet some of those cultures had very advanced metallurgical technologies. They simply did not incorporate the use of metal into various tooling that Europe and Asia had at that point.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Jarocal


Using your pics I have deduced how they moved them. Obviously those rubber tires are contemporary to the quarrying of the blocks.


Hardly; that black thing you mistaken have identified as a tire is actually a very old giant's chocolate doughnut.



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posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Which really makes you wonder how they managed to move something that was 800 tons let alone lift it twenty feet in the air thousands of years ago when we today would not be able to move a stone that is 400 or 800 tons let alone at the level of precision that they moved them. Hell who cut them out for that matter the cuts look pretty sharp.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: jashn20002000
a reply to: the2ofusr1

Which really makes you wonder how they managed to move something that was 800 tons let alone lift it twenty feet in the air thousands of years ago when we today would not be able to move a stone that is 400 or 800 tons let alone at the level of precision that they moved them. Hell who cut them out for that matter the cuts look pretty sharp.

As evident by the pictures... They didnt manage to move the largest stone as its still laying abandoned in the quarry.

The largest stone moved is 1250-1500 tons (thunderstone, 18th century).

Using modern machinery, we have cranes today that can lift things over 20,000 tons 80 meters straight in the air.

I dont quite see your argument. We can most certainly lift puny 400 ton stones at a laughable 20 feet if we really set our mind to it. That's lightweight.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: jashn20002000

The world record as I mentioned earlier is a 4,800 ton hotel being moved about 60 metres,so contrary to badly researched TV programs we could move anything we needed to.



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: jashn20002000
a reply to: the2ofusr1

Which really makes you wonder how they managed to move something that was 800 tons let alone lift it twenty feet in the air thousands of years ago when we today would not be able to move a stone that is 400 or 800 tons let alone at the level of precision that they moved them. Hell who cut them out for that matter the cuts look pretty sharp.


We can easily lift 400, 800 or greater weights.

Link to an all terrain crane that can lift 1,200 tonnes



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Hanslune

this is one of my favorite heavy lift pics

and here is a pic of the same crane preparing to lift a 3500 ton bridge section



from
heavy lifting crane



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:39 PM
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Doubt be ridiculous. Obviously thothey were gifted vulcanized rubber tech by the annunaki. Chocolate would have melted...



posted on Dec, 9 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: Jarocal
Doubt be ridiculous. Obviously thothey were gifted vulcanized rubber tech by the annunaki. Chocolate would have melted...


N A Y S A Y E R !!

Actually this is proof that the people who built the retaining wall at Baalbek were going to the Malay peninsula to pluck tires from the tire trees there.



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