originally posted by: karl 12
originally posted by: Deveron
a reply to: karl 12
Since your on the subject of UFO's. Is there any link to the book "Shoot Them Down - The Flying Saucer Air Wars of 1952"?
Deveron alas no mate and I would very much like to read it as well - the author also did some mighty fine research into the Flatwood's Monster case
and certainly knows his stuff.
I have read the book. Wanted the pdf version. I lent the book to a friend of mine who ended up moving overseas and misplacing the book. Typical!
It's a great book packed with detail! And a hell of a lot of witness testimony especially from the fighter pilots involved.
I may have to buy it in ebook format!
Shoot Them Down - The Flying Saucer Air Wars Of 1952
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Some info from the book:
The following information was found in The New York Times. This list is only a tiny sample of the fighter aircraft "accidents" occurring over America
during America's biggest flying saucer flap... where pilots were ordered to shoot those UFOs down! I digress, but there were also numerous and
correspondingly mysterious fighter accidents —and vanishings— throughout the rest of world, as well.
FIGHTERS LOST OVER THE UNITED STATES
VANISHED.1951, April 8. An F-94 jet "disappeared" from McChord AFB, Washington, while en route to Hamilton Field, California.
VANISHED. 1952, Feb. 19. In Florida, a Tyndall AFB jet fighter and two man crew "disappeared while on a routine training flight." The 2-man crew
"vanished in an F-94 jet fighter plane."
VANISHED. 1952, July 25. In the Miami, Florida area, "more than 100 planes joined ground crew forces...in a search for a missing Marine Corps fighter
jet and its pilot."
COMBAT VETERAN KILLED. 1952, August 8. Captain Gay, Jr., a USAF Korean War jet fighter veteran was killed in an "unexplained crash of an F-94
all-weather jet fighter...when it plunged into Vineyard Sound," near Falmouth , Massachusetts. It was reported that, "an Otis Air Force spokesperson
said Captain Gay was believed to have been trapped in the cockpit of his plane when it crashed." The Times reported that the fighter pilot had
"completed 105 combat missions in Korea and earned the Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Medal with three Oak clusters."
COMBAT VETERAN KILLED. 1952, Sept. 2. 1st Lt. J. Burke, Jr., a Westover AFB fighter pilot was killed at Ludlow Center, Mass. located about "five miles
east of the field." It was reported that Burke was, "a veteran of 100 combat missions in Korea." Westover AFB "officials said the cause of the crash
had not been determined."
COMBAT VETERAN KILLED. 1952, Oct. 31. Lt. E. Bernard. "PILOT KILLED IN CRASH WAS KOREA HERO" A Navy fighter pilot and "veteran of thirty-two missions
in Korea, " was "killed in a crash in Pennsylvania...had recently returned from the Far East. He received the "Distinguished Flying Cross" as well as
an "Air Medal with six clusters."
VANISHED. 1952, Nov.10. Off the coast of Florida, near Key West, "a Navy Hellcat fighter plane disappeared on a flight over the sea."
VANISHED. 1953, April 10. At Niagara Falls, NY, "a far flung search continued for an Air Force pilot missing in his fighter plane."
ONE VANISHED and 3 CRASHED.
1953, Jan.31. Over Madison Wisconsin, "four Truax Field F-86 Sabre Jets attempted to land but were forced to bail out." The USAF reported that, "three
jets crashed" and "one disappeared."
VANISHED. 1953, July 11. During joint war training exercises between Canada and America, "an accident marred the maneuver at San Francisco. Shortly
after interceptors took off to the air, a radar controlled jet with two persons aboard was reported missing over San Pablo Bay."
VANISHED. 1954, April 5. Col. Councill, a fighter pilot who "flew 130 combat missions in World War II," vanished in a F-80 fighter jet. The USAF
reported that he "disappeared shortly after take off" over Long Island, NY. The plane had "three hours of fuel aboard." Council held a
cross country jet speed record in 1946.
VANISHED. 1954, Nov.4. Over the Atlantic Ocean about 46-miles east of Cherry Point, NC, officials reported that "a Marine Corps Sky Knight jet," which
was searching for a "missing jet while on a tactical mission...was reported missing."
CRASH. 1954, Nov.29. "JET PILOT KILLED IN CRASH. An Air Force pilot who took to the air in an F-86D to track down an unidentified plane was killed
last night when his plane exploded while returning for a landing." The pilot was based at O'Hare Airport, Chicago, home of the 4706th Defense wing.
VANISHED. 1955, Sept. 25. The USAF reported that "a widespread search was under way...for 3 Langley AFB jets whose F-84F Thunderstreak jet pilots were
reported missing 12 hours after a wing-mate was killed." Two jets vanished over Chesapeake Bay, and one vanished on a "routine navigational mission
over the northeastern section of Maine."
COMBAT VETERAN KILLED. 1955, July 27. "WORLD WAR II ACE DIES." Lt. Col. Winifield Brown, was killed, "when his jet fighter crashed and burned just
short of the runway at Stewart Field. The USAF reported that "Brown came in under power for an EMERGENCY landing." The fighter pilot downed five Nazi
planes during the war.
UNKNOWN. 1956, March 4. The USAF reported that "two F-89 jet interceptors and the four men they carried," were "believed to have crashed" in the area
of "White mountain in the Cascades."
...And finally reader, in what should be "coal to Newcastle" at this point...
"4 JETS CRASH IN FORMATION DIVE KILLING PILOTS IN GEORGIA MYSTERY." 1953 Dec., 5. Lawrenceville, GA. Four ANG F-84 Thunderjets enroute from Miami, FL
to Dobbins AFB, Marietta, Georgia, "fell from about 11, 500 feet. One of the Thunderjets struck and demolished a small unoccupied house. The three
others crashed nearby...there was no indication that the planes were in collision before striking the ground." The USAF also reported, "The formation
was starting its descent from 27,000 feet and would report again at 11,500 feet, but the fliers were not heard from again." In closing, "Officials at
Dobbins Base said all the men were experienced jet pilots and they knew of no reasons for the crashes."
It is a really good book!
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