Well, someone had to mention it.

Home Secretary David Blunkett has asked for an independent review of claims he intervened in a visa application for his ex-lover's former nanny

Whiter than white?

'My government will be whiter than white'.

Yeah, OK Tony, whatever you say. After all the sleaze, scandals and corruption, it looks like the gloss is finally coming off this crappy government.

The worrying thing is, traditionally when this kind of thing happens (disillusion with the govt) people turn to the opposition and kick the incumbent out. Now, after years of Tory scandal and years of Labour scandal, people are just turning away from politics all together.

The refrain of 'Politicians, they're all as bad as each other' or 'Politicians, they're all a bunch of corrupt scumbags' has become the norm.

So, who do we turn to when all the major parties are discredited?

Well, i guess there's ownly one major party left the Lib Dems but then i still think that Labour will make it all over again.





[edit on 12-12-2004 by shorty]

Yeah, Labour will get back in. Some say 'you get the leaders you deserve'. What have we done to deserve this lot? Is this the inevitable conclusion of making politics a lucrative career rather than an act of public duty?

Originally posted by Chris McGee
Is this the inevitable conclusion of making politics a lucrative career rather than an act of public duty?

Good question

But if politics is what you do for a living you need to make money from it and wouldn't you be a little bit tempted just to help you're self now and again.

I'm sure Mr Blair wasn't fibbing when he said his government was 'Whiter than white".
It must have been a typo or something. Surely what he really meant was 'Whiter than #e'

But then, we do get the occasinal white dog turd in these parts - maybe he was telling the truth after all.

Originally posted by Chris McGee
Yeah, Labour will get back in.

The odds are Labour will get in...but that will be their last term in office for a very long time.
People will finally see that Labours promises of lower crime, a better health service and proper control on immigration was a lie

Whether many people like it or not, the Conservative party no matter what their errors in the past, have the policy and ideas to make Britain a better Britain.

Queue anti- Conservative ranting

You guys are funny.

You fall down almost dead in faux shock over the most ridiculous of things.

Blunkett, a single guy goes out - long term - with a woman who claimed her marriage was over, has children with her and they're seen together in public, known as a couple amongst their friends......and what?

He got rail tickets for her as if she were his partner - just like the rules allow anyone to do.

When it was pointed out that as she was still married to another guy and the rules wouldn't allow this he repaid the money; wow what 'sleeze' .

(The reason why the public couldn't give a monkeys - and they don't - is because this isn't quite 'cash (or freebies) for questions' is it?
It's not in the same league as being a proven purjury, is it?)

Yet again the tory crowd try to howl the house down over 'crimes and misdemeanours' they would have given their right arms to have been defending during their time in office rather than their actual record.....and the fact that this plays so badly for them because of this in the wider public has not apparantly dawned upon them.

I also see tax cuts are creeping back onto the tory agenda......let's see how that 'plays' with in public as they attempt to defend public service cutsto pay for them.

There's no rant here, there's no need, they're a joke and they're going to lose and lose big stylee again.
Wake up.

That's pathetic.

Home secretary has affair with married woman, fathers her child, gets her free 'perks' and uses his position to influence the visa application of her nanny.

He gave back the travel pass when he'd been caught out.

This is a member of the government which wates no time in telling the rest of us how to live our lives, constantly moralising and portraying itself as clean as the driven snow. I can't believe even you are making excuses for this joker, you must have had some really deep brainwashing sessions.

Anyone remember David Mellor? If this was a Tory, you'd be all over it like a rash, in fact, look what happened to Boris Johnson. Conservatives standing by their principles, Labour looking after their own as usual.

'Do as I say, not as I do', the new Labour motto.

Labour is lies and deceit. THey'll get in though, look at the Options. Why does no-one like Kenedy though? I'd vote for him. Sooner him that Bliar (NOT a typo) or Howard.

[Cued anti-conservative rant]Conservative? Labour is nearly identical to them! Who'd busy privatising and ruining our public services? When was the last time two rail services interlinked? At least under British Rail they were only late. Now they are late and don't interlink, and often they are using now on our line old trains dug out sidings in a condition which would fail a car's MOT.At least the old ones have tables though.[/Cued anti-conservative rant]

Meh, whiter than the average white van maybe. Except no-one has wrote "Liverpool FC" on the back of the Labour party.

Originally posted by Chris McGee
That's pathetic.

- No, it's how this is.

Just cos it isn't the huge public concern tories imagine that it is and would love it to be.

Home secretary has affair with married woman

- You really think tories should go down the road of marital morals do you ?
Blunkett is a single man.
He had a long-term relationship with a woman who said he marriage was over.....as their real friends (they were famously pictured in public with Michael Parkinson and wife for example) have made clear.
Her husband's pals are a different kettle of fish, obviously but it's not hard to see where they are coming from, eh?

This is actually a rather unpleasant and sad little private affair being milked for the politics.....by those desparate to try and gain a little mileage out of it. That's what's really pathetic about this story.

This is meant to be a 'big deal' ?!

fathers her child

- Is there meant to be something wrong with that?
Did you include that as some kind of damning material fact to consider?

When they broke up she denied his paternity which he has subsequently proved in court.

(Bit different to ex-tory party chairman Cecil Parkinson and his untrue denial of paternity and then the dragging through the courts obtaining a gaging order about the tragic Florrie Keys, right?)

gets her free 'perks'

- You mean got a rail ticket.
Found out the partner rules did not apply and refunded that ticket money....woooo huge fraud on the public purse that one, huh?

and uses his position to influence the visa application of her nanny.

- No this is pure slander.
You have no grounds for saying that.
Not only is this under investigation but it has come out that rather than having to wait the usual year many people were 'fast tracked' through this proceedure, it was not unusual and there is no indication that Blunkett influenced this at all.

He gave back the travel pass when he'd been caught out.

- When the rules were pointed out yes he refunded the ticket money.....as any civil servant would have in similar circumstances.
Big deal.

This is a member of the government which wates no time in telling the rest of us how to live our lives, constantly moralising and portraying itself as clean as the driven snow.

- Actually in terms of personal behaviour this gov has only ever involved itself in legitimate health advice to the general public and unlike the tory party has never engaged in anything like the nonsense of 'back to basics' and the public moralising that went with that.

This gov has a much better record for propriety than the last lot, as everyone knows.

I can't believe even you are making excuses for this joker, you must have had some really deep brainwashing sessions.

- I can't believe the ludicrously thin straws you guys clutch so desparately at.

Anyone remember David Mellor?

- What you mean tawdry public sex-scandel and his taking freeby holidays with people he should not have been having holidays with....being a foreign office Minister and all.

If this was a Tory, you'd be all over it like a rash, in fact, look what happened to Boris Johnson.

- Yeah look at what happened to him.

That laughable idiot Simon Heffer writes a column insulting the people of Liverpool to which Boris attaches his name (like a fool) and he gets made to dance through hoops by his party leader Michael Howard.

He then denies to Howard that he has anything further to 'come out' about him and when his affair gets made public Howard sacks him.

.....now, what has any of that to do with Labour or 'the left' hounding anyone? Boris Johnson's sacking was 100% about Michael Howard and his tory party, not anyone else.

Conservatives standing by their principles, Labour looking after their own as usual.

- Which principles?
Lying in court and going to jail? "Simple sword of truth" anyone?
How many Labour Ministers has that happened to?
Compared to how many tories of the last tory gov?

'Do as I say, not as I do', the new Labour motto.

- Yeah right.....the trouble is no matter how fervently you believe it or how passionately you hold this to be true no-one outside the tory party and thier mates in the tory press could care less.

Get over it.

quote: If this was a Tory, you'd be all over it like a rash, in fact, look what happened to Boris Johnson.

And note how it got no-where NEAR as much attention too? Everyone forgot in a few days.

Now, BLunkett is front-page news. To be honest, so what? Its his private life, imagine if EVERYONE in Britain got their affairs on the front page. Ther'd be an outcry.