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originally posted by: boymonkey74
I have noticed how all the anti abortion people have ignored my questions to them on the first page.
Another member mentioned they only care for the fetus before birth.
I think he is right.
So come on answer the questions.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
I could give many examples, but it's easier to say that we have to be prepared and ready to accept the consequences of our actions. If a man and a women are not prepared to deal with the potential consequence of pregnancy
originally posted by: rukia
a reply to: eletheia
you know, i have no idea how you get having fun from multiple unwanted pregnancies and desperation. having fun? you can have fun with your pants on or off. Not just one or the other. So, you don't think that women who get multiple abortions are in any way traumatized? You think they're just having fun? I didn't insinuate that they were having too much fun.
there's no excuse for those who get abortion after abortion like it's going out of style. Anyone with a brain would go, hmmm you know what--I think I'll be more careful in the future and perhaps use condoms or the pill or practice the withdrawal method so that I don't get preggers A-frickin-GAIN.
Getting back to this talk about 'fun', my views are as follows: It is Aristotle's doctrine of mean--which asserts that one should seek the middle-ground between deficit and excess--ie. temperance because the mean is the ideal road to virtue--Confucius also agrees. Ben Franklin was another person to try and gain temperance in his behaviors--he actually kept a running daily log of how he did on temperance and other virtues each and every day.
I'd say that multiple pregnancies/abortions with multiple fathers and the life that goes along with that sort of thing is literally anything but fun. I haven't lived it--but neither have you. However, I have studied such cases in school--and I lived in downtown Chicago while attending Loyola. I've seen women like the one's I've described. And they didn't look like they were having fun. They looked lost and unhappy.
So what, you're telling me that a woman/man who is promiscuous is totally a-okay and isn't completely acting out due to an internal issue (doesn't matter what it is, could be bad parenting, bad socialization, bad relationships, drugs, you name it)? You're telling me that they're just having fun and don't need to rethink anything?
If that's what you think, then you're absolutely incorrect. As in, there is literally case study after case study that refutes what you are saying. Promiscuity to the point of self-degradation isn't okay for anyone, no matter what they try to tell themselves. They need to face their issues--whatever they may be--and move forward or risk stagnating.
So you're cool with giving them help in the form of planned parenthood but you aren't okay with mandatory mental help and counseling when those abortion services are given freely? So you're jiggy with letting them ruin their mental and physical well-being? I find that deplorable. And I really think you ought to reconsider your view. That's all I'll say.