Is it just me or Hollywood movies are getting worst?

you want awesome plus big budget and war?
check out fury

originally posted by: Grovit
you want awesome plus big budget and war?
check out fury

you didn't read the OP did you?

a reply to: InhaleExhale

The Aussies are very good film makers. Some great off beat films.

I must admit that as soon as I had finished watching "Predestination" I watched it again immediately.

I love how that film played with gender so well. Very modern. Ethan Hawke gives a wonderful performance. He is a very "edgy" actor. He is up for a creative challenge.

a reply to: Grovit

Fire away. Any rec's you like!

I've been doing that these last couple of years. Some times 3 or 4 in a day. I love looking through the IMDB lists.

I have not begun on the International movie scenes really. It is always nice to have recommendations.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale


you didn't read the OP did you?

most of it.
it was written in such a way that it was hard to read. one big lump of text

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

Are there many good anime movies without having to be subtitled in English?

If you watch them on Netflix, they have the option to watch most of them in English now. in all honestly, I just enjoy a good looking movie that rocks my senses, quality acting or story be damned. If you want to blame somebody for the quality of movies being produced, blame people like me. I enjoyed Transformers because of how badass it looks having super giant robots kicking each others ass and destroying cities in the process, as well as all the gun, tanks and artillery on display showing their stuff. Even though I thought the writing was crap, and the acting was mediocre.

Pacific Rim was just as cool for the same reason, but I enjoyed the writing a little bit better. Except for the idiot scientists characters they were just too lame. That actor needs to stick that character type to his bar at Paddy's, because it does not work anywhere else.

Check out Rampage, and the sequel Rampage: Capitol Punishment . Uber bloody violent with some intelligence to it.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

i just started compiling my watch list on imdb and i am already at almost 400 movies...i only started about 15 minutes ago.
ive had to have seen at least 7k movies.

by international i assume you mean foreign?

ok then...a few off the top of my head

oldboy(original, 2003 from korea)
pans labrynth
amelie
city of god
anything by takashi miike
wetlands
y tu mama tambien

i watch a lot of foreign, especially japanese and korean movies....not all of the above are asian obviously

originally posted by: Grovit

originally posted by: InhaleExhale


you didn't read the OP did you?

most of it.
it was written in such a way that it was hard to read. one big lump of text

Had to star you as I sort of agree with the lump and the "most of it" gave me little chuckle I just thought it wasn't that big of an OP really.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

i always try to read every post of a thread.
sometimes if it is a long thread i will reply to a post halfway through or something but then go back and read the rest.
when it is written in a giant pump like that though, i dont make it all the way through.
hard for me to read

Redbox gave a credit too the two movies I couldn't watch. Would have been nice to get, two movies that I couldn't watch, but whatever. My bad for upgrading to blu ray, i guess. Didn't know.

a reply to: DYepes

im with you.
i love the indie movies. killer scripts and out of sight acting.
i also love action, explosions, cgi effects...

i love me some fast and furious, expendables, transformers, etc

its possible to be into both..

just depends on what i am in the mood for

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: Tangerine

You are right on that point and it shows. However I think there is also an extroardinary lack of talent within the 'star' pool. There has ben a stranglehold on hollywood for years with agencies only booking who they want to promote without any real regard to talent and also, sadly good looks.

If you look at the movies made in the 50's 60's and 70's the men and women were stunning. My wife had a few friends round one evening and five of them could not think of one really good looking hollywood male star. You look at the actors from the past, they had a masculinity about them that today's lead man seems to lack unless he is some american muscleman, then its more testosterone than masculinity and talent.

The movies all seem to reflect either the bible or supposed jewish history and perhaps its all been done before in the past and better, even without todays special effects etc. To remake the classic Cleopatra is a waste of money and time. The film is a classic as were the actors. Where is the new innovation - ideas - with a film like Avatar, I was swept away but are we so stagnant in hollywood that we are only able to go to see films like avatar on rare occasions?

Too much celebrity, huge ludicrous wages and no real heroes for me today.

Lack of talent? Russell Crowe, Meryl Streep, Cate Blanchett, Ryan Gosling, Ed Norton, Ben Kingsley, Billy Bob Thornton, Judi Dench, Robert Duvall aren't talented?

You're aware that the actors don't write the screenplays (including their own lines) and decide which films get made, right? I don't know which films you're seeing when you say "the movies all seem to reflect either the bible or supposed jewish history." There are many films that have absolutely nothing to do with either.

As for innovation, Avatar is a special effects spectacle. I thought you were concerned about acting.

originally posted by: lonesomerimbaud
a reply to: makemap

Hi.

There have been some modern movies that are creative and non commercial.

David Lynch can be brilliant, Lars Von Trier, too.

Melancholia, Dancer In The Dark, Mulholland Drive are very good films.

However, gone are the days of Orson Welles being given a blank cheque to go strut his stuff. Orson Welles is my very favourite. Mercury Theatre produced some amazing films, cited as some of the best all time movies.

I wish that technology was advanced enough to put film making into the hands of everybody so that big budgets were no longer necessary. With the advances in quality cameras, like go pro and software for special effects there is every possibility that the budget for making a film could be slashed.

I am a critic like you of the quality of films that are coming out of Hollywood. I just wish they would take chances like they used to. Like everything else Hollywood has become a victim of commercialism and art being sacrificed for profit.

I agree with you. Sadly, the average movie-goer seems to want spectacle not story. They want to watch people or technological monsters being killed and things blown up. The average people who are posting here and complaining probably wouldn't choose to go to "Mulholland Drive" nor enjoy it if they did. Sad.

a reply to: Tangerine

i will take a modern day movie over any of orson welles ball sucking movies any day.
or citizen kane

a reply to: makemap

ehh...they ran out of original ideas...

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: makemap

ehh...they ran out of original ideas...

no they didnt.
not by a long shot.
loads of original movies out there.
just so happens the rehashed, special effect laden epics are what is popular cause that is what the majority of people want to see.

Movies do get worse, but that is mainly because we get older.

More than half the stuff I watched as a teenager, and in the 20s i think is just ridiculous now.

Fair warning they are not going to get any better.

I agree, I both make and review movies.
The movies I review (2 a week) are often pap.
But perhaps you would take a look at my latest release, super cheap indie sci-fi feature Battle at Beaver Creek.
It's definitely not pap, and is perfect for ATS.
Check out this thread!
See you at the movies...