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Is it just me or Hollywood movies are getting worst?

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posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 03:19 AM
It's all about making franchises now. Splitting and dragging things out that should be one film to make as much money as possible.
If a movie is successful then there isn't much doubt you'll get a 2 and 3.

I'm not sure how the process works but maybe it's easier to get funding if you can show that this xmen movie made money so my next xmen movie will make money or this book sold this many copies so there is already an audience rather than starting a new idea from scratch and trying to get people on board.

I do think tv series are better than ever now. There are so many great series out there I can't keep up.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 04:16 AM
Are Hollywwod movies getting worse?

Probably.... as they are from MURIKA... and depict exactly the state of the USA at the moment....

To be quite honest... and as a European... I am pretty fed up being forcefed with all those PRO USA Hollywood films with plenty of violence/killing/gun fights/... WE SAVED THE WORLD... etc etc... and not one bottom or boob displayed...?

Give me a decent French film with a couple of birds and their boobs out and a decent dialogue any day...

Kindest respects


posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 04:56 AM
a reply to: makemap


There have been some modern movies that are creative and non commercial.

David Lynch can be brilliant, Lars Von Trier, too.

Melancholia, Dancer In The Dark, Mulholland Drive are very good films.

However, gone are the days of Orson Welles being given a blank cheque to go strut his stuff. Orson Welles is my very favourite. Mercury Theatre produced some amazing films, cited as some of the best all time movies.

I wish that technology was advanced enough to put film making into the hands of everybody so that big budgets were no longer necessary. With the advances in quality cameras, like go pro and software for special effects there is every possibility that the budget for making a film could be slashed.

I am a critic like you of the quality of films that are coming out of Hollywood. I just wish they would take chances like they used to. Like everything else Hollywood has become a victim of commercialism and art being sacrificed for profit.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 05:02 AM
a reply to: Rodinus

There is a great shot of Nicole Kidman's "assets" in her recent film "Before I Go To Sleep". I anticipated this would be the case before the film started. I am sure it is in her contracts "Must have at least one frame of her bottom". And a very fine bottom indeed.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 06:37 AM
I love todays films just as much as I enjoy the older films. It's all about using your imagination and letting go of reality whilst watching them. Stop being so boring and mundane people, for crying out loud!

The Wolf Of Wall Street was the first film that i trickled out pee, it was that funny!

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 06:44 AM
You can kiss the great American movie goodbye, although I would not call commando a great movie,,,smh.
Digital replacing film is the biggest reason.
Putting a movie on film costs several thousand dollars and is expending to ship, but digital only needs an internet connection. That is why the movie studios expanded the foreign markets to their films. Now it is so easy to put your films in china or India.
Someone mentioned godzilla. That movie made over 500 million but only 200 million in the us.
Check out the transformer movies that I thought sucked.
Over a billion in box office for the last one, but on 22% was gained in the us.

That's the true meaning of Christmas Charlie Brown.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:01 AM
a reply to: skyblueworld

It is all about script. Even Leonardo cannot fix a bad script.

My favourite kind of films will always be intelligent movies. An intelligent movie can be in any genre from science fiction to romance and when achieved I am happy to watch both these genres.

Otherworldly romance: Wow, Meryl Streep in "The House Of The Spirits". With a quality actress like that and such a beautiful story from the novel by the Chilean writer Isabel Allende it could not go wrong.

Films that convey ideas and lateral perceptions. Anything can be done in a movie. I just wish that they could replace "commercial potential" with "intelligent".

I am sure there are some amazing scripts out there and certainly some amazing, far out sci fi novels. It is just that en masse it is commercial success aimed at the lowest common denominator of bulk pleasing and assured profit and quality is not the order of the day.

Orson Welles was amazing. Who could have successfully transferred a weird novel like Kafka's "The Trial" to movie and made it to actually WORK? Orson Welles could do that. He could explore literary themes in the world of cinema like no other. Bless his memory.

I would recommend Orson's "The Trial" to any ATS member. Of course, the novel, too, by Franz Kafka.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:13 AM
a reply to: makemap

My personal opinion it is not just you...many movies that are created and promoted in our time now are really awful! And...a lot of the acting in them is awful too.

I am a big fan of the movies from the 1930', 1940's and 1950's...they are marvelous!

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:19 AM
Completely agree. Look at the new star trek shows. I still occasionally watch an epsiode of TNG or Voyager now and again, because they were more cerebral. A lot of episodes have mystery elements and plot twists that keep you on the edge of your seat, waiting to find out what happens next. Of course not so much now, that I've seen all the episodes half a dozen times at least. But a lot of new sci-fi shows aren't about hard science fiction anymore, there is no mystery or thrill to it. It's all laser guns and big explosions and poorly dressed aliens or gay celebrity actors, like that's somehow important.

To be honest, our cinema has long since fell into the toilet. Right now it's a rotting hunk of poo that no one has bothered to flush in years and years. I haven't been to a theater in over 5 years? Maybe longer? I don't watch much TV anymore, only the news now and then. I keep a Netflix subscription going, but I've already watched most of the shows I like on there and they take forever to add anything new. Especially anime - by the time they add a new anime show I would be interested in, I've already watched it for free someplace else.

I still find a good story now and then in anime. I'm waiting for the second season of Attack on Titan to come out, and I was happy to watch the second season of Mushi-Shi recently. You have to be able to stomach animation though and a lot of people dismiss it as just cartoons. Also the majority of anime is bad - you have to search around to find ones that you like, at least in my opinion.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:33 AM
a reply to: peskyhumans

I've heard there are lots of good anime films. I would not dismiss them just because they are animated. In a sense a lot of movies are animated with special effects and CGI.

For some reason I cannot settle with the cartoon style. The only two I did enjoy were "A Scanner Darkly" and "Corpse Bride".

Sure there are some great stories. I think I need an introduction to the genre and a recommended list of quality movies. Are there many good anime movies without having to be subtitled in English?

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:44 AM
a reply to: makemap

i wouldnt say they are worse. i still enjoy a good deal of them. yeah, a great deal of hollywood films are huge budget, cgi infected hero type movies. there are still lots of hollywood productions out there that do not fit into that category.
then you have all of the independent movies.
there are loads of good movies out there with killer plots and scripts being released all the time.

if you limit yourself to only watching wide theater release movies then for the most part that is what you are going to get.
lots of independents out there that are never in theaters or are there under very limited runs.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 07:53 AM
a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

not the first time for kidman.
check out billy bathgate
you get to see her assets front and back

i dont think mega production equals a bad movie. when youre working with a 200 million dollar budget though youre not going to get the award winning script or plot. i thought this was common knowledge.

there are still good hollywood productions out there. they dont get as much hype as the blockbusters though.

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all hollywood. all great. all within the last year
i could keep going but there are just a few that i have watched this week alone.

great movies are still out there

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 08:21 AM
a reply to: Grovit

Wow, there are actually some films you mention that I have not seen and that is saying something. Thanks for the rec's.

Nicole Kidman is a very good quality and fine actress. Perhaps the best actress of her generation.

I happen to think Tom Cruise is very fine. Watching him in a film like "Valkyrie" it becomes obvious just how much talent the guy has and the enthusiasm he gives to his co actors.

I see a lot of talent squandered for lack of good scripts. Orson Welles was held back big time by lack of finance for his ideas. He could be very naughty with his budget though. I hear he would have some outrageous parties for the crew as part of the creative process, haha.

Yes, there are still some good films being made. I think movies are a great comfort in modern life. They have an important function. I would always want to see Hollywood thriving and on fire creatively.

All the best now Mr Grovit.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 08:35 AM
a reply to: makemap

There are plenty of amazing movies released every year.
We've already had -

Under The Skin
Grand Budapest Hotel
Blue Ruin
CA: Winter Soldier
Gone Girl
St Vincent
The Guest
Lego Movie

Plus a load of smaller films like

Only Lovers Left Alive
Starred Up
The Rover
These Final Hours

Not to mention countless fantastic documentaries.

There are so many great movies out... this year, last year... every year.
You just need to watch them and search for them, don't just watch the mainstream stuff you see trailers for.

Anyone who says "All modern films are crap" or things like "I don't watch any films after 1999" or whatever is just stupid and is missing out on some incredible movies.
I could probably list 100's of movies just in the last 5 years that are worth watching.
edit on 4/12/14 by blupblup because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 08:42 AM
a reply to: blupblup

im with you.
lots of good movies you listed.
locke and st vincent was fantastic.

i could easily list a couple hundred movies just over the last couple years that were fantastic...talking amazing. then loads more that were damn good and even more that were just good.

some people think they dont exist cause there are no trailers on tv or they are not at the theater closest to them...

lots of good stuff out there....

not a huge nocole kidman fan. i like her well enough but she is not one of my fav's by any stretch

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 08:50 AM

originally posted by: Grovit

not a huge nocole kidman fan. i like her well enough but she is not one of my fav's by any stretch

Thought she was good in Stoker... but yeah, she's not one of my favs.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 09:06 AM
a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

no prob. if you want more rec's, ive got lots.

lately i have been trying to figure out how many movies i have seen in my life. i dont really know a way to get an accurate figure but it has to be thousands....easily

i watch a movie every day and some days as many as 3 or 4...
been that way for 25 years

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 09:23 AM

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: FalcoFan
a reply to: makemap

Everyone has their own flavor-but I feel the same way about almost every movie made after 2000.

I wish that movie makers would stop remaking/ruining older movies.

Maybe if they spent 500 million on a 6 hr zombie movie(new-not a remake)-they will get my interest.

With rare exception, the people who decide which films get made are not filmmakers. Thirty-year-old MBAs make the financing decisions and their tastes are reflected. They tend to think if X-type film made lots of money last year, five more clones of X-type film will make even more money. They're often wrong, get fired, and replaced by other 30-year-old MBAs who have no knowledge of the history of film and don't regard it as an art form.

No-one was able to predict that Star Wars would become a franchise that would last decades. Same with Top Gun.

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 09:38 AM
a reply to: stormcell

top gun is not exactly a franchise. there has only been 1
part two is in pre production now though

posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 09:46 AM

originally posted by: makemap
Movies used to tell us what the future might end up being like such as war of the world. Now we just get mostly Comic book movies and teen movie like hungar game and twilight. I went back to watch 90's action movies and compare to todays they all seem to be a joke. Most of them being Crappy American propaganda film like Red Dawn, White House down. What the hell happened to movies like Commando, Aliens, and all those non-pro American films? Even comedy movies are getting worst, they are not as funny as the past ones. Lots of movies are coming from books instead of actually written unlike the past movies. Even Jurassic World movie starting to look like a joke. The new Star Wars movie looks unbelievable like the older Star Wars. Probably because all the CGI now a days. What happened to all the historical war movies? The only recent one is Fury, even medievil is missing out and being replace by fantasy such as Lord of the Rings.

Maybe your getting old?

Age changes one tastes, could that be it or maybe you need to look into movies that aren't so hyped about.

Many great films,

Australian Directors with Ethan Hawke as star in a movie called Predestination, that will blow just anybodies mind.

Too many great films, you just seem to be into movies that are hyped up because of massive budgets and need to recuperate the costs so they use clever techniques to get viewers interested in movies that lack originality.

I am a movie buff so I enjoy any sort of movie, you seem to be after action and war,

Why not real life dramas or fictional dramas, you don't enjoy drama?

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