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Yahweh was in the beginning, before any other elohims.
YHWH comes from the Hebrew letters: Yud, Hay, Vav, Hay. While YHWH is first used in Genesis 2, God did not reveal Himself as YHWH until Exodus 3.
(Exo 3:13 KJV - 13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?)
I have already pointed out that Yahweh is the Creator, not creation. His Son in Yahoshua, for he came from Yahweh.
Your foundation on which you are building your ideas has already been pointed out as an error, so how, and why are you still building on it?
originally posted by: IndependentAgent
a reply to: arpgme
Yahweh was in the beginning, before any other elohims.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: IndependentAgent
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Yahweh = Satan. They have you worshiping evil
Already settled as far as I am concerned (in clearer English than this thread LOL).
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1Jn 4:15 "Whoever confesses that יהושע is the Son of Elohim, Elohim stays in him, and he in Elohim."
As former Bishop of Durham N. T. Wright explained, He, Yahoshua, was Born of man, but also Yahweh in Human form, therefor being the only "God-Man", and that is why He is called both Son of Yahweh and Son of Man.
Luke 21
8 He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
Revelation 1
1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: IndependentAgent
I have already pointed out that Yahweh is the Creator, not creation. His Son in Yahoshua, for he came from Yahweh.
The word Bara is Create, used in relation to Elohim in Genesis 1. Name one thing Yahweh created.
Adam - Formed
Garden - Planted
Eve - Formed as a division of perfect Adam
4 This is the account of heaven and earth when they were created, at the time when Yahweh Elohim made earth and heaven.
Who created? Elohim. At that time, Yahweh MADE. These are two different words with two different meanings. Create is the word Asah. Did Elohim restrict the trees in Genesis 1? NO. Did Elohim divide the image of man from Male/Female? NO. Adam was Created by Elohim. Yahweh took that creation and planted it in HIS garden.
He then made the snake.
I have told you the truth. You can verify all these facts straight from the word of God.
I challenge you to find a creation of Yahweh. Name it.
Your foundation on which you are building your ideas has already been pointed out as an error, so how, and why are you still building on it?
I have answered each false accusation you have made against me. Feel free to keep going. This provides more detail to the thread.
originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: zardust
1John 3:8
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
The Son of God's identity must be determined. Yahweh (Lord / Adonai) of the OT made the Snake. The Snake was cunning, implying that he was made for that purpose. Man was naked, implying he was not clothed with knowledge. Yahweh shed blood, which Elohim prohibited. That's enough to determine his nature.
From here, you must decide if the LORD / Adonai of the New Testament is the same character as Yahweh. Luke 3 allows us room to see that Adam is the Son of God. Either one of two things happened in the NT. Either the Son of God (Adam) hung on the cross, or Yahweh hung on the cross to pay for his shedding of Adam's blood throughout the Old Testament.
You continue to use Genesis 9 as you proof that the one who sheds blood must pay. Yet as I've stated, over and over, the entire OT is not sanctioned by the writers of the new. You will find nowhere that Jesus says he is paying for his crimes.
originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96
What more do we need to see the significance of Adam hanging on the cross to pay Yahweh's blood shed.
originally posted by: IndependentAgent
originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: WarriorOfLight96
What more do we need to see the significance of Adam hanging on the cross to pay Yahweh's blood shed.
Where did Adam hang on a cross?