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originally posted by: Specimen
If there was an alien threat, it would hit us with little to no warning pretty quickly. They wouldn't have to show up to position themselves over capitals like the movie "Independence Day" where it was dramatically strategic like it was a game of chess. They'd just hit us like it was a fist from God.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: Specimen
If there was an alien threat, it would hit us with little to no warning pretty quickly. They wouldn't have to show up to position themselves over capitals like the movie "Independence Day" where it was dramatically strategic like it was a game of chess. They'd just hit us like it was a fist from God.
Exactly. Like a boot to an ant hill.
Or as Michio Kaku put it, Godzilla vs Bambi.
So, since that has not happened (and there's been plenty of time for that to happen over the last 300,000 years) it stands to reason that there is no alien threat from anyone in the neighborhood.
So while UFOs as a surrogate for "aliens" may be waning, the real search for life in the Universe is kicking into high gear and we may learn within the next 20 years that we really aren't alone but not because of flying saucers or some old government files but rather solid scientific evidence from astronomy.
originally posted by: Erno86
Ufology should be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism...but you're optimism, that Earth's space probes are the only way to find factual evidence of extraterrestrial life is overshadowed by the fact --- truth be told --- that otherworlder starships have visited our planet in the recent past; and probably will keep doing so in the foreseeable future; depending on the technological advancement of Earth's defenses.
originally posted by: Tangerine
It's a fact that "otherworlder starships have visited our planet in the recent past...."? Facts are based on testable evidence. Where's the testable evidence?
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: Tangerine
It's a fact that "otherworlder starships have visited our planet in the recent past...."? Facts are based on testable evidence. Where's the testable evidence?
Actually that evidence is all around, and there is no shortage of evidence. The issue typically lies in the lack of understanding of "what" constitutes evidence.
Most people have an exaggerated idea of what evidence IS, to the point that their expectations of evidence is unrealistic.
Perhaps, many would be better served if they gave up their unrealistic / uneducated notions and started to simply use fundamental science and their guide...as opposed to what they would like things to be.
originally posted by: Tangerine
Stating that there is evidence all around is still not stating the evidence. Please do so. I am using fundamental science as a guide in that I requested testable evidence. So far, none has been forthcoming.
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: Tangerine
Stating that there is evidence all around is still not stating the evidence. Please do so. I am using fundamental science as a guide in that I requested testable evidence. So far, none has been forthcoming.
All of the data compiled by every query into any of the multitude of reports, sightings, encounters, etc.is your evidence. However, since you seem to have missed that, I submit that your notions of "testable" and "evidence" are so skewed that you can no longer objectively analyze what is available.
ETA: You will also need to be willing to do your own work...Due Diligence is a key. Evidence will not "seek you out", you must seek it.
originally posted by: Tangerine
Let's start with your original claim, "otherworlder starships have visited our planet in the recent past....". I am unaware of any data that proves the existence of "otherworlder starships". Can you cite this data specifically? Exactly how are my notions about "testable" and "evidence" skewed?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: tanka418
All of the data compiled by every query into any of the multitude of reports, sightings, encounters, etc.is your evidence.
All of the data. That includes the hoaxes and misidentifications?