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Precognition - hypothetical case

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posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 04:28 PM
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The book The Power of Premonition by Larry Dossey was filled with examples and stories if you want to read some about this. You should find it at your local library.
Again sorry if this is still not what you're looking for. My misunderstanding.




posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

The cholera story was posted September, you had the dream about it this morning.

Not precognition.



posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: AutumnWitch657

The cholera story was posted September, you had the dream about it this morning.

Not precognition.


No I pasted my post from another thread to this one and I started that post with: This morning I had a dream... I didn't have the dream today. I had it on Sept 8th.
The original post was on Sept 8th and the first public reports of the polio was the 16th. So yes precognition.
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posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

I read the post, and no, it is not precognition.

So you had your dream in September.

GSK already had allegations of braking waste management laws in August.



posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Also, your 'precognition' was on September 8.

The press release stated the disease reached the river on September 2.




Le mardi 2 septembre 2014 vers midi, environ 45 litres de liquide contaminé par le virus polio ont été rejetés depuis le site de production GSK

Source



posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 08:57 PM
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Yes however the release of the story wasn't until the 16th. You can search for stories in the news prior to my dream but you won't find any. Unless you think I was in on it or perhaps in Belgium at the time . I assure you I was not. You are practically,calling me a liar and I really don't appreciate that. I had the dream a week before the thread was posted and that is where I first saw the story. No where else.

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posted on Dec, 3 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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You have a lot of nerve .' I'm not a liar. Where do you get off. I had the dream and then I saw the thread. a reply to: GodEmperor



posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Whatever you call it, it is no precognition.

Precognition would mean you had the dream prior to the actual event.

Not calling you a liar, just explaining that what you experienced was not precognition.



posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

By your reasoning if you know who's on the phone before you pick up its not precog because hey they already dialed your number.
So the Mexico dream with the boxing match and the dream about my aunt's foot not precog either? What do you call that? . I think your just being a thorn. Have a great life.
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posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Well, it wasn't precog knowing my comments would make you upset.

Enjoy.



posted on Dec, 4 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: Emma3
What would you think about the situation itself, the person and how/why it happens? What's behind it?

Since time as we perceive it is just an illusion. In fact, for quantum interactions time is not part of the equation at all, with zooming forward and backward as they will.

Seeing as how our perception of reality relies on quantum interactions in our brains and our nervous systems perceiving variations in electromagnetic fields, perhaps it's possible for a person to pick up a secondarily created electromagnetic field pattern of quantum interactions from the relative "future" and make sense of it in a contemporary context. Or there may be more subtle non-electromagnetic fields at work, creating the same kind of circumstances.

We're not very good at detecting non-electromagnetic fields, though, because we're simply biological animals that perceive the physical universe in a very narrow way.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 05:05 AM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

I think you hit right on the head. We are not very good at detecting the electro magnetic fields and when we get a hint of precog we may get confused and not understand how to apply or connect the info in our reality. Practice makes perfect.

Usually precogs can tell the difference between a passing feeling and a sure thing. For instance, I was a passenger in a car which was stopped at a stop light. I glanced at the motorist next us and told my daughter that the man was going to die today. There was nothing special about the other driver or anything on the road that would indicate that something was amiss. She laughed and we both thought no more of it. The light turned green and and my daughter dropped me off at home and she drove to the store. She called me ten minutes later and said that same motorist had gotten into a fatal accident around the corner. I have done that many times before. While this may be precog my daughter insists that I have the ability to "kill or harm others" if I desire. I have harmed people through I don't know what type of gift subconsciously.

My point is that the indication of the event was strong and was enough of a feeling that I knew wasn't a passing thought or may not happen. But as I said before practice makes perfect. The more you try and the more you believe, it becomes much easier to use and more reliable. The connection becomes stronger.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

I think you're misunderstanding what precog is and the others are trying to explain it to you. Let's take your disease in the river dream. The news reported it in September after your dream. However the actual event took place probably in July or August. This means that in order for a precog to catch the event they had to have a dream or vision prior to July.

What you may have had was a vision of what happened but you definitely didn't see the future. For instance, I had a dream a woman named Mary was telling me where her dead body was. A few days later the police found her body at that location. That is not precog. That is a vision. In my dream I never was told they would find her but only where she was at. I did not foresee her death. That is a vision.

These forums are a great way to reach out to other like minds. If you put yourself out there don't be so quick to tear down different opinions, even those different opinions on your own experiences.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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I only got upset when he implied that I knew about this from the news and that I was lying. I was not. What is it called when you dream something that turns out to have happened? There's got to be a better term for it other than vision. That's sounds too woo woo.
I certainly had no foreknowledge of these events yet I dreamed about them. And the spill happened on Sept 2 just days before my dream however the information wasn't released until a week after my dream. So what is that.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: AutumnWitch657

I call it a vision because I am just being showed something. I don't know what others call it. The OP made a point asking if a precog would want to known. My answer has always been no. My eperience is different from other experiences and what I may call precog may differ from others.

In your case since you had the dream AFTER the event you had a vision in my book. Despite how "woo woo" and whatever the name that is not precog. Find another word if you like.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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OK so you don't know another word for phenomena like this. Thanks. I'll do more research.
I figured if I dream it before I read it somewhere that's precog. I knew it before I heard it or read it. Knew before... precog. The official dictionary definition is PRE before COGNITION acquiring knowledge. So before acquiring knowledge. Anyway I've had enough.
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posted on Dec, 10 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: Emma3

I'm a precog of some sort.

Yes, the future can be altered without perceivable paradoxes, especially for the small events that are easy to change.

I can sometimes (randomly) see the future through the people I love (including myself, duh) in their future timeline and this included a beloved pet and make changes according to the vision.

One of these "alterations" saved my own life, nearly saved my pet's life but my parents doubted my ability so they did nothing despite my protests. My parents believe me now but it's too late.

They think I'm crazy and evil.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: johndeere2020
I'm a precog of some sort. Yes, the future can be altered without perceivable paradoxes, especially for the small events that are easy to change..

Test yourself here ... abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1045535/pg3#pid18743294 [the second Zener card website has a "clairvoyance" mode : i.e. you have an opportunity to predict the card before it has been generated by the computer ].


originally posted by: johndeere2020
They think I'm crazy and evil.

"crazy" people are not necessarily "evil".
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posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: Frank12345
Test yourself here ... abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1045535/pg3#pid18743294 [the second Zener card website has a "clairvoyance" mode : i.e. you have an opportunity to predict the card before it has been generated by the computer ].


originally posted by: johndeere2020
They think I'm crazy and evil.

"crazy" people are not necessarily "evil".


Thanks, but that test won't work with me.

My ability seems to work reliably only when powerful events are concerned like death or events which trigger very strong emotions like being surprised.

As in my previous post, examples like concerning my own death (which was prevented through precognition and corrective action), death of my beloved pet which was not prevented through disbelief and inaction of her caretakers....

...It doesn't work with strangers and casual friends in my case. You have to be the person I truly love so I can have a chance to see your future. It works in some ways like telepathy but not in real time and only with people/animals I love.

I see another problem coming but the ones concerned don't believe me. It's both a gift and a curse. A gift because you've been given a 2nd chance, a curse because it somehow makes me responsible if negative events are not prevented.



posted on Dec, 11 2014 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: johndeere2020
My ability seems to work reliably only when powerful events are concerned like death or events which trigger very strong emotions like being surprised.

I've already mentioned there is an organic [non-paranormal] explanation for someone experiencing strong emotion without an exogenous cause + simultaneous déjà vu ( the latter can be mistaken for precognition) , but it is worth repeating ...


wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_seizure#Presentation wrote ...

"While awake some common symptoms of simple partial seizures are:

preserved consciousness [ i.e. no loss of consciousness : you remain awake ].
sudden and inexplicable feelings of fear, anger, sadness, happiness [e.g. euphoria ] or nausea.
sensations of falling or movement.
experiencing of unusual feelings or sensations.
altered sense of hearing, smelling, tasting, seeing, and tactile perception (sensory illusions or hallucinations), or feeling as though the environment is not real (derealization) or dissociation from the environment or self (depersonalization) [ aka OOBE ]
a sense of spatial distortion—things close by may appear to be at a distance.
déjà vu (familiarity) or jamais vu (unfamiliarity)
laboured speech or inability to speak at all
usually the event is remembered in detail "

You don't have to tick all categories above , you've already ticked quite a few : sudden-anger, OOBE , paralysis , visual hallucinations ["auras"] and auditory hallucinations, déjà vu [ mistaken for prognostication, which is impossible BTW ] .

You may prefer to believe you have paranormal powers , rather than a neurological problem , but you'd be better off seeking a neurological assessment , as treatment exists for seizures.


originally posted by: johndeere2020
... a curse because it somehow makes me responsible if negative events are not prevented.

Falsely believing you have paranormal powers is just causing you to torment yourself unnecessarily , and apparently causing problems with your parents. Please see a neurologist : that could improve your life , ( but don't mention alien implants to them ).


originally posted by: johndeere2020
... being surprised ...

If you are "being surprised" for no exogenous reason that could be something called "myoclonic seizure" , which is startle-reflex firing of its own accord : without an external trigger like say a sudden unexpected loud noise, or sudden unexpected pain.
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