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Transgender girl awarded $75,000 in lawsuit over school bathroom access

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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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Transgender girl awarded $75,000 in lawsuit over school bathroom access

So I don't know I have mixed feelings about this. given this person's situation I think they should have gotten access to the girls bathroom It wasn't as if the person was switching sides multiple times, so to say. But I also don't want what was said in the article to be true I don't want this to set precedent. We cannot keep catering to everybody. I am sure maybe that's what the school was thinking that we can't cater to this one person's issue out of the whole school body.



A transgender girl who won a precedent-setting state Supreme Judicial Court decision in January after school administrators in Orono made her use a staff bathroom was awarded $75,000 in a lower court settlement last week with the school district.


And this also smacks of the recent South park episode where Cartman had to use the mens room but all the stalls were full so decided to use the girls bathroom, and then found out the girls bathroom was better so decided to become "transginger" as he called it.



But is this what we want for society now I mean do we cater and accommodate the 3% ? I mean being different should be celebrated it should be worn as a badge of honor that your different then the rest you don't care what people say that your resilient and you don't need or want special treatment.


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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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Her use of the communal bathroom was uneventful until one boy, at the direction of his legal guardian – his grandfather – followed Nicole into the girls’ bathroom twice, arguing that he, too, was entitled to use it. In the ensuing controversy, the school administration reversed its course, barring Nicole from using the communal girls’ bathroom.


basically sounds like this issue was started by some kids grandpa who is probably an antiquated moron and taught his kid to follow in his footsteps.

i work at a college in brooklyn and we just changed our single stall mens and womens bathrooms to gender neutral bathrooms. i really don't see any problems with it. we still have men's and womens' bathrooms but, from what i recall the whole school has a mandate of one gender neutral bathroom per building. it didn't take kind of "special accommodation". we just removed two stickers from two doors and put two new signs in their place.

ooooo scary brave new world!
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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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As long as she/he feels relaxed taking a dumpski is all that matters. Making everyone else uncomfortable is not important.



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:06 PM
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I agree with the kid's grandpa. In our local schools, the staff restroom is a uni-sex restroom. You knock on the door and if it is unoccupied you use it. If it is occupied then you wait your turn. It is against school rules for an adult to use the children's restroom because of pedophile paranoia. Accommodation was made by allowing the student to use the staff restroom. This lawsuit is BS.



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:25 PM
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im curious about the lingo
made her use?
or
allowed her to use?



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:27 PM
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They should build transgender bathrooms...

Otherwise the men should use the men's room...


Including this one...



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: American-philosopher




I mean being different should be celebrated it should be worn as a badge of honor that your different then the rest you don't care what people say that your resilient and you don't need or want special treatment.


I don't know. I would think that someone appearing as a woman going into the men's room would be a "badge of honor" that might not go over so well. Likewise with a woman dressed as man in the woman's room.

I think the answer is transgender bathrooms....like family bathrooms that a lot of places have now, where men can take their little daughters, and women can take their small sons.....



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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This will be my excuse, going forward, to gain access to the girl's bathroom.

And I thought I was having a bad day



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:45 PM
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if they put up transgender bathrooms, i shall make the call for hermaphrodite bathrooms as well

what about them, huh?

they matter too



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: windword

I think that was one of the solutions in the south park episode where Cartman eventually got his own bathroom



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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At least the child now has money for sex reassignment surgery one day.

That's a good thing, right?



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: American-philosopher

It was all good until wendy had to ruin it for him. Wendy always reminded me of a butch anyways.



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: windword


I don't know. I would think that someone appearing as a woman going into the men's room would be a "badge of honor" that might not go over so well. Likewise with a woman dressed as man in the woman's room.

I think the answer is transgender bathrooms....like family bathrooms that a lot of places have now, where men can take their little daughters, and women can take their small sons.....




Not really. First in most public situations this has most likely already been happening since forever. Hell I worked cleaning offices in my younger years, and I can tell you that in practice most people generally don't care who is in the rest room with them. So that leaves us addressing just the school issue of the whole thing. And people make a bigger deal out of this than it is. A transgendered child isn't just dressing up to gain access to the opposing genders bathroom to get a peek. It is pretty easy to sort the transgendered children from the ones doing it for sport. In this case the child had been exclusively a girl for a number of years before the incident leading to this case.

A case not brought about because someones daughter was objecting. A case brought because some idiot grandfather, told their grandson to make a pervert and an ass out of themselves. Being transgendered is not the same as being a transvestite. Transgendered means you literally self identify as a female, it isn't just liking to dress up as one.
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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 07:29 PM
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yea cleanign bathrooms myself at times working in a kitch ... someone always has to draw the short straw

they dont give a damm whos in there

reminds me of a rather mean thing we did to a manager at one of my first jobs

we knew the guy/girl he/she lived with us and was a ahole

but so it was technicaly a girl who dressed up as a man [snipped]
so we saw he used the girls bathroom and one of us reported it to the gm so he had to use the boys
than later on one of us told the gm hay i know hes really a girl he cant use the boys bathroom

oh the fun we had

in all honesty i could go on and on about how he/she deserved it but another time of messed up stories in my life

the point retaining to the topic tho if planed you can really mess up smoeones like over them being transgender
just let it be who cares
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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: KeliOnyx

I don't think we disagree.

I guess, maybe, I used the wrong terminology. I know that transgender people identify with a gender, while transvestites dress for the part.

Never the less, a rule requiring a transgender boy, who identifies as a female, (or vice versa) to use the men's room, based strictly on biology is the wrong way to go.

Maybe a "genderless" bathroom option is a better way to put it. A place where transgender individuals or anyone else can feel comfortable.



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 07:36 PM
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ok, all good points, but let me ask a question.

where shall it end? certainly not just with bathrooms.

should a transgender 18 year old female be allowed to serve in the military as a man?

assuming he passes all physical qualifications. if no, why?

i'm not trying to be rediculous, but if it's not about the body parts that a person possesses,

and as keli just stated above


Transgendered means you literally self identify as a female, it isn't just liking to dress up as one.


where should the issue stop?



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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Just make all public restroom uni-sex and everyone can use the same restroom.

Not sure kids in school are mature enough to handle that without causing problems though.



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 10:01 PM
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Perhaps I'm just an old-fashioned prude, but I don't want any man or teenage boy in any bathroom I am using. It has nothing to do with maturity. It has to do with the very real possibility that others could see me through the gaps (about 1" or so if memory serves) in the bathroom doors--I GET TO DECIDE WHO SEES ME NAKED!

Perhaps one bathroom could be uni-sex or better yet, if you have female equipment, use the girl's bathroom; if you have male equipment, use the boy's bathroom...



posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 10:28 PM
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im having a hard time understanding something though.
she identifies with the female sex...thats fine...more power to her.
the fact is she is a boy.

she can identify with females all she wants. dress and act like a female.
still, not female..

and how does a person that is 2 years old identify with the opposite sex?

im having a hard time with that one.

parents urging? hints?
im having a hard time understanding how a 2 year old identifies with the opposite sex, let alone their own sex.

my mind is wide open if someone wants to help me understand the whole transgender thing...
cause i dont get it.

what the jerk off grand father told the other kid to do was not cool. that # is never cool.
making fun or anyone or ridiculing anyone for this or anything for that matter is not cool.

still, this girl is not a girl. she is a boy

can someone help me out?

i agree with the above poster

if you have a dangler, you use the boys room
if you have a crevice, you use the girls room

leave the gender neutral crap for after graduation...you know, for the adults
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posted on Dec, 2 2014 @ 10:31 PM
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Now she can build her own damn bathroom..... How is giving that much money to a (assuming teen) transginger going to help anything. She better donate that money




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