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Finally saw the full effect of Illegal Immigration in Los Angeles. We're in trouble.

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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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I'm born and raised in Los Angeles, 40 years old. Went to public schools here in the LAUSD system.

When I was younger growing up here Illegal Immigration was nowhere near this. As a kid a "Mexican" or Honduran or Salvadoran was sort of a rare sight. A few neighborhoods were, but overall it was Whites, Blacks, Asians...for the most.

Around the 90s when I was in high school the waves starting coming after Reagan, Bush, Clintonm Nafta, etc. Since then it has been a steady increase every year on almost every ethnicity, but specifically Hispanics. Within the past 10 years I just resigned to the fact that California and Los Angeles will be taken over, and that it can't be stopped with our current politicians here.

I've accepted it because it can't be fought. I go around town to many places and I am, as a White man, a stranger here. That is how it is. When you are White here you are a minority. It's not the minority part I mind, it's that we as a country and California as a State are being bombarded at a level that is unseen and unreported in history. It's WORSE than thought and I am seeing it full steam now.

Last week I had a medical emergency because I ate a toxin and got severe hives. I was nowhere near a good ER room so I had to be L.A. County hospital. I was there in the daytime and parking was almost impossible to find, as I went myself. I got into the ER and the TV's I noticed were tuned to Spanish stations. But it didn't end there. I was guided to the triage nurse who could barely speak English and had to point to a sign on the wall in English for me to understand "Heart Rate". She was making errors from the get go.

Flash to me talking to a medical billing person who handed me a slip of paper written in Spanish, with a short pencil. While waiting for the second nurse I looked around at all the people. All Hispanic. Maybe one "other than" there, a black dude. NOBODY in the waiting room spoke English. Noobody. The nurses who were seeing other people had to call in interpreters regularly as not all of them spoke Spanish. The look on their faces was pure frustration. In fact they seemed to be relieved I spoke English.

When I was on my way out and ready to pick up my pills, I saw the billing agent coming in and asking questions to about half of the other "outgoing" patients about personal things that they all had trouble answering. They all spoke Spanish to an interpreter and were writing down numbers on pieces of papers. I speak enough Spanish to get by and I knew they were having trouble with payments because they were NOT citizens. Either that or they had emergency Medical (which Illegals qualify for)

These were NOT Americans that just spoke bad English. When you grow up in Los Angeles you know what the deal is when someone is older than 30 and can't speak a LICK of English.

I went down to the pharmacy which is in a huge lobby area where you can overlook hundreds of people in lines. I looked and noticed there was only maybe 2 "other than Hispanic" people out of I would say 200 people. I went down to get in line and overhead the conversations. A lot were ABOUT legality and "home" and "insurance" and "can I do this". It was surreal

Days later I had another referral appointment in Olive View Hospital. It was the SAME exact experience.

I have no clue what's going on but the media is ignoring or are not aware of something huge and I think fraudulent. If anyone would have seen what I saw, my words can't even describe it. It was like being in another country and witnessing a whole underground economy.

I didn't know it was this bad. I suspected things were bad but all the way into our Medical system this deep? Possibly involving Medical/Medicaid numbers and other things. We have been invaded by something much larger than reported. I won't even get into the other makeups of Illegals here like the Koreans, Armenians, Filipinos, Etc. This experience was enough to know that something dark is going on here in California and I am afraid it's just going to get worse.

I don't know how an economy can survive like this. And with the latest actions on Illegal Immigration I think now is the final tipping point. As an L.A. Native born and raised, I barely recognize this city, this State. I only wish I had the funds to document it and make a film but I'm too busy with my own survival.
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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Hey if you had health insurance you could have gone anywhere.

Sweetheart they were here first - don't forget it. You could use this as a learning experience. A taste of what minorities go through everyday.

Better learn to speak Spanish.

viva El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:26 PM
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We have completely lost Los Angeles.

It's Mexico City North. I read a study that said 85% of households spoke Spanish.

It wouldn't be that big of deal but, most claim we stole this land and they will not conform.

It seems to me if they think we stole this land...Their beef would be with Spain.

Because, they granted and sold the land.
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:26 PM
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America doesn't have an official language - speaking only Spanish is no indication of anything.

Sucks to make racist assumptions huh!


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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When I used to visit LA as a youth with my family, it was maybe about 15-20% Mexican but when I moved there in 1997 for college, it had to be close to 50% Mexican/ Latino. I don't know the percentage(s) for illegals. I moved away in 2005 so I can only guess the percentages now; 60%? They are definitely the majority there now.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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The big picture is this, and its been in the works for decades, in both the US and Western Europe: fracture the culture base of the nation as much as possible so the public will be divided and either fight amongst themselves, or simply be unable to unify because of major cultural differences, while the country or countries in question are looted of what resources they may have by small handfuls of hyper rich psychopaths, using various channels to concentrate the wealth looted into their own hands.

Doubly great if they can even get a segment of the population to rabidly cheer for the cultural dilution and defend, protect, help propagate, and attack anyone who would question their own demise, especially by mislabeling them with emotionally charged words.

What you see is a product of this. What youve seen is a nation, which is at its heart a culture, and not a land area, destroyed, or at the least, weakened beyond the ability to resist the looting.

America in spirit died slowly, and few realized. Only the rotting shell remains, and its stench is finally having some take notice of what theyve lost forever.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: lostbook
When I used to visit LA as a youth with my family, it was maybe about 15-20% Mexican but when I moved there in 1997 for college, it had to be close to 50% Mexican/ Latino. I don't know the percentage(s) for illegals. I moved away in 2005 so I can only guess the percentages now; 60%? They are definitely the majority there now.


How hard is it to look up facts:


The racial/ethnic/cultural composition of Los Angeles as of the 2005-2009 American Community Survey was as follows:

White: 41.3% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 29.4%)
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 47.5%
Black or African American: 9.8%
Native American: 0.5%
Asian: 10.7%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 0.2%
Other: 25.2%
Two or more races: 2.8%

en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:35 PM
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Those stats are from four years ago.

All you have to do is spend one day there to see what a joke those stats are.

Not even close when you count all the illegals.

I really did laugh when I looked those numbers up earlier.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: CaticusMaximus

A whole lot more "American Spirit" in the Latinos that I know - hard workers, good community members, educated, politically active. Don't see that in what we used to call in West Virgina - Trailer Trash Culture.

The ignorance of believing only white americans are americans is mind blowing. We are a nation of immigrants.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd

Better learn to speak Spanish.


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Why should they not learn to speak english? I know that isn't PC for me to say, but it is what it is.

I don't go to Germany and expect everyone there to speak to me in english. I can almost guarantee that you don't get the "Press 1 for English" when using the phone anywhere else in the world that doesn't use english as their main language.

The concession in language should be made by those arriving in the foreign land... Not the other way around IMO.

Nobody is going to budge on this. They never have and they never will. It's why you have "China Town", and "Little Havana" etc. Most people will not assimilate so the divide continues.

As for the OP, I see no reason why he needs to learn to speak Spanish if he doesn't intend on leaving the country. It's helpful, but shouldn't be a requirement to make sure you receive the best medical care in the United States.



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: CaticusMaximus

A whole lot more "American Spirit" in the Latinos that I know - hard workers, good community members, educated, politically active. Don't see that in what we used to call in West Virgina - Trailer Trash Culture.

The ignorance of believing only white americans are americans is mind blowing. We are a nation of immigrants.



I spoke nothing of race; I spoke of culture. The two are separate things which you have conflated in your zeal to mislabel those who oppose the cultural destruction and thus spirit of their nation, as I also spoke of in my first post.

As to your first paragraph, it is too clearly based in emotion and racial prejudice for me to rationally respond to effectively. Ill let it sit as it is, and others can judge for themselves.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
Hey if you had health insurance you could have gone anywhere.

Sweetheart they were here first - don't forget it. You could use this as a learning experience. A taste of what minorities go through everyday.

Better learn to speak Spanish.

viva El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles


Actually you have no idea of history, the Spaniards (People closer to ME) and the Russians were more "owners" of this land after the natives then anyone else. Mexican, Guatemalans, Salvadorans, Filipinos, Armenians, Koreans have no historical or moral claim to Los Angeles
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: CaticusMaximus

A whole lot more "American Spirit" in the Latinos that I know - hard workers, good community members, educated, politically active. Don't see that in what we used to call in West Virgina - Trailer Trash Culture.

The ignorance of believing only white americans are americans is mind blowing. We are a nation of immigrants.



I saw no such "American Spirit" in those 2 hospitals. I saw something nefarious going on and I'm hoping someone would have the stones to loo into it further. We are being lied to about the medical industry and Illegal Immigration and the two combined.

This is not "American".



posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe

Why should they not learn to speak english?


English is not the official language of the USA, so they can speak whatever they like and there's nothing you can do about it.

Hasta la vista baby! :p
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Is that why gang violence is out of control in LA?

La Raza
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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: lostbook
When I used to visit LA as a youth with my family, it was maybe about 15-20% Mexican but when I moved there in 1997 for college, it had to be close to 50% Mexican/ Latino. I don't know the percentage(s) for illegals. I moved away in 2005 so I can only guess the percentages now; 60%? They are definitely the majority there now.


Los Angeles CITY Proper, is approaching 65%.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Hasta La Vista.

As in "Goodbye"? You sound like you want English gone, or English speakers gone.

Side Note. Black, Asian, Hispanic, Mid Eastern people speak Englsih ALSO. Just a reminder.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

The Native Americans were here first, the Spanish conquistadors came after. I would suggest picking up a history book at your local library.


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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I don't recall calling it the official language. I actually went back and reread my own post several times and STILL didn't see where I said it was the official language. It is however the language that we are taught in school. It is the language a majority of us still speak. It was the language used when writing The Declaration of Independence. It was the language used to write The Bill Of Rights. It is the language the POTUS gives his speeches in... should I go on??

"Vivre et laisser vivre"... I can do it too.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



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posted on Dec, 1 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: whyamIhere

Is that why gang violence is out of control in LA?

La Raza


There are lots of gangs there. They mostly kill each other.

Unless the unfortunate six year old kid happens to walk by their gun battle.

I adore the Mexican People. Employ several great Hispanics.

However, we are being invaded. Your a racist if you don't like it.

I want people to become American's...I choose not to live in Mexico.




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