I've been think about that debate for a few days. Even though the "against" team won, I feel the "for" team could have mentioned this to help refute
the comment that images and sensations can be re-created using methods in a lab.
The experiences in the "after world" are not explainable in any language we know
There are NO words to describe the experience. Sure, we can
say "bright colors" or "family member" or "complex geometry" but those adjectives or simplistic descriptions are only 1/100000 of what we can muster
Here's my point. The brain can't come up with something it hasn't already experienced. Sure, it can construct some abstract nonsense around a concept
enveloping an experience and make it something else comparative to what we know, but that's as far as it can go. You can't "imagine" a new color for
instance. How can you use any language to describe a new color? You can't. There are 'places' that people go to which can not be described
accurately. Concepts, sensations, experiences. Surely, if all of these things are just "recreated" in your brain, then there are words for them seeing
these experiences are just extrapolations from real events experienced in our lives.
There was a video I watched that for the life of me I wish I could find. It was a very intelligent response from someone who has been studying the
affects of dimethyltryptamine AKA (ayahuasca) experiences related to the spiritual world. When one takes a journey into that realm, their visual
cortex begins to respond (eyes closed) to various stimuli which can only be attributed to "something" being seen.
There was an optical illusion I saw once on the net which resulted in the walls moving, plant leaves lifting, tiny dots zipping too and fro, similar
to that of those coming out of a '___' induced trance. Without paraphrasing too much, I believe the answer for that was we must be experiencing
something which is directly affecting our visual cortex in order for there to be stimulus like that.
Placing the "god" helmet on your head might induce some of these sensations ( feeling like you're not alone, higher power, uneasiness, love etc) but
it won't recreate a fantastical land of light beings, palaces, traveling in a nth dimension, massive upload of information in an "alien language" for
a lack of a better word. It won't recreate the actual experience. Just some byproduct of the experience.
So when theses doctors say they can recreate the experience, it would be prudent if they did it with a NDE survivor and make comparisons. I would
safely bet their results are not even close.
ETA: This is what the other side looks like. The best anyone can convey through painting, yet words still can't describe what it's really like.
"Net of Being"
Artist, Alex Grey.
So, in conclusion, when those skeptics can recreate this with the god helmet, then I may listen to what they have to say. Until then, all they have is
a scratch on the surface.
edit on 3-12-2014 by FlySolo because: (no reason given)