European Union Conspiracy - Britain on the Brink

This is a fact based documentary that I'm going to include as a thread on a conspiracy forum, but take heed all the British people out there, that there is a huge year coming next year where we will have to make a decison for the future of everyone who is thinking about living in the UK or Europe years ahead.

The conspiracy is that we are not being told what is happening behind closed doors, and the fact that the UK is being hollowed out by Brussels and already even though they havent the right to do so, is already carving our country up into areas, that we as the general public do not live in or know about.

We will if we decided to buy into the EU project, lose our power to put people into power, and with that remove people from power with a vote if we as a whole decide they are not operating in the best interests of the people, which is what happened to Tony Blair over the war in Iraq, and to this day he is not welcome in the UK, and his opinions are best kept to himself and his partners in power in Europe and the Middle East.

I believe the UK will be better off without EU membership, and that is view taken without prejudice or hate or any other title, and I look forward to moving peacfully ahead with our European friends, but also happily trading with the other states that do not see the need to join up with their neighbours to create a United States of *.

This I believe is a huge piece of the jigsaw as we move towards a one day singlular government, that they believe the rest of the world will look at as their future with their neighbours to one day create the 4 areas of the world, that will then become 1 state in the long away future, in my option possibly 200 years away.

If you are unsure of what the EU is really about, or are undecided on the future of Britain, please watch the follwoing video -

Dont really want to be trapped in the UK to be honest, as it stands Britain has some pretty scary right wing tendencies and if things keep going the way they are were ultimatly headed into some dystopian nightmare. Pink Floyd knew the crack with that, ignore the warnings all you like.

I'd rather the UK not join the EU. It would sink into the depths of the sea as all the English people decline under the pressures of immigrating peoples not required to be English to live there. It would then begin to look like Mexico. They would rename England to Mexi-K.

originally posted by: multichild
This is a fact based documentary that I'm going to include as a thread on a conspiracy forum, but take heed all the British people out there, that there is a huge year coming next year where we will have to make a decison for the future of everyone who is thiking about living in the UK or Europe years ahead.

The conspiracy is that we are not being told what is happening behind closed doors, and the fact that the UK is being hollowed out by Brussels and already even though they havent the right to do so, is already carving our country up into areas, that we as the general public do not live in or know about.

We will if we decided to buy into the EU project, lose our power to put people into power, and with that remove people from power with a vote if we as a whole decide they are not operating in the best interests of the people, which is what happened to Tony Blair over the war in Iraq, and to this day he is not welcome in the UK, and his opinions are best kept to himself and his partners in power in Europe and the Middle East.

I believe the UK will be better off without EU membership, and that is view taken without prejudice or hate or any other titl, and I look forward to moving peacfully ahead with our European friends, but also happily trading with the other states that do not see the need to join up with their neighbours to create a United States of *.

This I believe is a huge piece of the jigsaw as we move towards a one day singlular government, that thet believe the rest of the world will look at as their future with their neighbours to one day create the 4 areas of the world, that will then become 1 state in the long away future, in my options possibly 200 years away.

If you are unsure of what the EU is really about, or are undecided on the future of Britain, please watch the follwoing video -

a reply to: Dabrazzo

Out of Europe, i would say that Britains right wing thoughts are less than those of France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece and many others.

At least when Britain decides to stay as a country that can give power to those and also take it away, the complete opposite of what will happen under the EU banner, the majority will see no reason to vote in right wing parties, as the majority of people in the UK, are happy to live a peaceful life, where we work for a living, and help those arounds us who need it the most, as we have done for hundreds of years quite nicely.

Something I want to repeat is that I am not racist, I am not a hateful person, and neither do I wish any harm on anybody, but what I am doing is expressing an opionion, and to hopefully highlight the negative aspects of being a EU member, whci as a voter in the UK, i am entitled to do.

a reply to: multichild hi im a little undiscided on what to think, isint wales having money from Europe to better the country? I mean that's a pro I know imergration out of control and our judges have lost some clout but hmmmm I don't know to be honest

It is scary - at every skill level in the UK, Brits are competing against the whole world for work. I've seen adverts in my university charging £6000 for a six month internship for graduate vacancies. Then for minimum wage workers in the local shops, there is competition from people in Eastern Europe. That's just the university cities.

In the rural country villages, it's even worse. The sole part-time employer might be a B&B or hotel. They would prefer to employ international works willing to live in bedrooms on the top floor and be on call 24-hours, rather than pay local mothers to work part-time, which for them was a good source of income.

Even in the farms and local warehouses, the same thing is happening. Employers are bussing in international workers who live and work on site, earning £6/hour for working, while payingg £5/hour for a bed.

a reply to: ryan2010

Yes we do get money, but lets not just make out that only Wales benefits from EU money, if we where to keep the money we give to the EU and instead ploughed exactly that amount into Britain as a whole, then will be no worse off.

In fact as a whole I think what we get back from the EU less than we give.

This ideology is based on that we can afford to give it and at the same time less well of countries are in need of it.

But I think rather than seeing people come to Britain looking for jobs, then we would be better off investing in their countries so their country could benefit and grow their own economies up, and then have free trade agreements, rather than a country recieving handouts from a central bank.

Lets see these countries that need help, get help and advice to grow themselves.

a reply to: stormcell

I currently live ruraly to some extent and that is exactly what I see too, and where I originally came from which is the Rhymney Valley in South Wales its even worse.

I believe that people should be made to work rather than claim benefits, so if the jobs in the valleys where given to valleys people, or they dont get benefits, then there would be no need for the huge number of migrant workers.

The UK is a very welcoming place, we have political and social ideologies that have spread and worked all around the world, so whats so bad now that we need to change it.

Nothing!

its just that we have been made to feel that it needs to happen for our own good.

originally posted by: multichild

Out of Europe, i would say that Britains right wing thoughts are less than those of France....

I live in France and I can tell you that right wing thoughts are indeed the norm and very much alive. In fact the term "right wing" or "la droite" was coined during the French revolution.

Xenophobia is rampant, especially in the small communal areas....which is basically everywhere.

I hate it, and they need to stop being so stubborn and ignorant. It's medieval on occasion.

originally posted by: multichild
a reply to: stormcell

I currently live ruraly to some extent and that is exactly what I see too, and where I originally came from which is the Rhymney Valley in South Wales its even worse.

I believe that people should be made to work rather than claim benefits, so if the jobs in the valleys where given to valleys people, or they dont get benefits, then there would be no need for the huge number of migrant workers.

The UK is a very welcoming place, we have political and social ideologies that have spread and worked all around the world, so whats so bad now that we need to change it.

Nothing!

its just that we have been made to feel that it needs to happen for our own good.

People do want to work - I know that you can never get unemployment below 2.5% because that's the rate of genuine inability to work due to illness.

But because they lose their council house if they take up employment, even if it is temporary, there's no incentive to take temporary work. That's all that needs to change.

a reply to: multichild

Something I want to repeat is that I am not racist

Not a racist but maybe a bit of a nationalist eh? wink wink, dont worry your secrets safe with me, a nods as good a wink to a blind man eh.

All joking aside though maybe its because im actualy Scottish and dont understand what "Britishness" or Englishness actualy means. English customs are not our customs. To me if its not some [snipped] in Europe telling us what to do its some [snipped] in London, makes no odds their all the same corrupt wankers as far as im concerned.

And Christopher Booker?, LOL sorry but I dont need a bunch of establishment elitists telling me whats what from the comfort of their country manors.

And Christopher Booker?, LOL sorry but I dont need a bunch of establishment elitists telling me whats what from the comfort of their country manors.

You dont need to listen to anybody from anywhere telling you what to do, but like me he has an opinion on what it will mean for us to be a fully fledged member of the EU, and if thats ok with you you will get an unelected twat sitting in his comfy office from Brussels telling you what to do, and you want have any option but to listen as your vote will mean nothing when it comes to making the UK a place where you want to live.

What is wrong with being a nationalist, I am proud to call myself British foremost and Welsh secondary, but at the end of the day I wont to have the opportunity to put the person in the job of governing this country with their party whether they Welsh, English, Irish or Scottish.

And on the subject of nationalism, there was no better example of that than just what happened in Scotland when it tried to tear itself away from the rest of the UK, and thankfully failed, and all on the assumption that Scotland can be like Norway another non member of the EU, who have managed to create a cracking place to live on the proceeds of oil over the last 40 years.

Those oil rigs wont last 40 years, and even now trying to get the oil out of the sea bed is becoming more and more expensive, and then to keep it going millions upon millions of pounds will need to spent on refurbishing the oil rigs which will eventually become empty of oil, or more likely just to expensive to get out.

originally posted by: multichild
a reply to: Dabrazzo

Out of Europe, i would say that Britains right wing thoughts are less than those of France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece and many others.

At least when Britain decides to stay as a country that can give power to those and also take it away, the complete opposite of what will happen under the EU banner, the majority will see no reason to vote in right wing parties, as the majority of people in the UK, are happy to live a peaceful life, where we work for a living, and help those arounds us who need it the most, as we have done for hundreds of years quite nicely.

Something I want to repeat is that I am not racist, I am not a hateful person, and neither do I wish any harm on anybody, but what I am doing is expressing an opionion, and to hopefully highlight the negative aspects of being a EU member, whci as a voter in the UK, i am entitled to do.

I see where you are coming from, but there is a need to be careful about misnomers. There are right wings in most countries, just as there are left wings, but there are also extreme right wings too, so there is always the danger of over simplifying to just left-right. I can see where this thread is heading, perhaps what it is about...foreigners.
But to take an example of a country you mention, Germany's post war industrial mighty recovery was on the backs of Germans and a host of, Turks, Italians, Greeks, Indonesians and heaps more, so the melting pot has been going on for a long time there, and it's nothing new, and not particularly EU-ish, although I see the Germans as valuing their diversity of labour because it has worked well for them. In Britain immigration works too being net contributors to the national wealth, regardless of the horror stories of the Jingoistic British press...but they are usually against all things foreign anyway. France tends to be a more socialist leaning country, and workers are generally well paid, production line car workers are among the highest paid in Europe and standards are rising dramatically, in fact you could say standards all around much of the Eurozone have risen exponentially, even as the banking crash, (steal) still smolders.
IMHO Britain would be a mug to forgo the EU, it already loses out by having only one foot in the door anyway, as a good deal of infrastructure would have already been made much better had Britain been fully part of the Eurozone..but that's another story, I think!

The British press has a variety of leanings, and from what can see and read they mostly all tell a tale of Europe being in #, and particulary France who's unemployment is rocketing and are on the verge of having a right wing governement.

Only receently the hugely respected John lewis CEO pointed out that France was in a terrible state, and wasnt an attractive place for business or people, possibly made clear by the thousands of refugees camped in Calais trying to get to Britain, when what for, as stupidly they already in France who by your accounts have well paid jobs, and a socialist ideology which should be attractive to any hard working person from anywhere in the world.

I'm sorry I'm still not seeing the benefit of having no say in how the country is run, and instead having to do what Brussels has to say.

I like the idea of people being accountable for the decisions, just like politicians who should be looking out for the best interests of the people that put them in.

I have many issues with the EU and would have to start my own website just to get them all out but there is one that stands right at the top, right at the top and at the forefront - We and our children and our grandchildren are being brought up with the idea that without our EU membership this great country (UK) couldn't exist. This is wrong and we should make sure that we all know we can live and will be far better without the EU membership.

This is a racist UKIP Party political broadcast. Thanks for watching.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
This is a racist UKIP Party political broadcast. Thanks for watching.

That sentiment is exactly why an adult debate on issues of immigration is compromised. If someone mentions immigration they are tarred as a racist. Oh, such a simple way to look at it.

BTW I think this is a very one-sided view of people who have a particular uncompromising view of the EU as a negative force on the UK. I agree with very little. I actually think EU migration is a force for good and that sorting out access to welfare benefits will be positive. For every Pole in the UK there's a educated person who wants to get on in life and has been prepared to up sticks and move hundreds of miles to better him/herself, unlike many in the UK who refuse a job five miles away because it means getting out of bed!

I am more against non EU immigration which people seem to have forgotten and which comprises MORE THAN the net figures from EU. We should stop people from Somalia, Pakistan and similar countries where people have zero connection with the UK and we should sort out the thousands of illegals who have absconded prior to deportation.

Regards

a reply to: paraphi
All i see in UKIP are more privately educated Toffs who couldn't find or hold onto a job with the Tories, Lib Dems or Labour, so they formed their own party and are using the Immigration "question" as a means to further feather their own nests.

lets face it...Name another policy they plan on bringing to the table that will change things for the common man other than the crap we hear from them on a daily basis....?

Immigration, immigration, immigration is all they have.

Just BNP with a more expensive education IMO. unfortunately the Sheeple suck it all in and fall for the BS as usual.

a reply to: multichild

I am neither nationalist, racist or right wing. My concerns are more about resources and social effects of E.U migration.

I was in Lidl last night (a European based supermarket chain) and there were more Polish people than English in there. The Polish people here do not mix with the English. They speak Polish and ignore everybody else. I lived in a Muslim neighbourhood for a few years and I found the Muslims to be more socially fluid than the Polish people. They were very nice to live with, but that was all before the terror hype. I don't know what it is like now.

My concerns are related to the strain on our health, education, housing, etc. There is no doubt that the quality of life in England is much lower than it used to be. Life seems somehow cheaper than it used to be.

The house prices in the UK are crazy. Demand has fuelled these soaring prices. People making profit out of real estate love this, but your average young couple trying to buy their 1st home are the ones that lose out.

I very much like multi culture and diversity. However, the people that come here are not interested in society and meeting the locals. They come here to use this country for resources and finance. If that continues unchecked then our country will slowly loose its identity and desirability. It will be a worse mess than the countries these people left in search of a better life.

The E.U is being totally irresponsible with the migration policies. Free movement is one thing, bringing a state to its knees with burdens on health, welfare, housing and education are another. Like the Health Service is not given more money by the E.U to cater for increased demand. We have to put up with having the same resources for many more users which obviously means a poorer service for us all.

It is not a question of disrespecting other cultures. I would marry into an African family, absolutely no racial prejudice, but there are clear deep seated concerns about the effects of unchecked migration.

I have not even mentioned what it does in terms of driving down wages, too.

We need to ask why the E.U is so hell bent on shoving us to keep accepting these huge numbers of migrants without any extra help financially for the increased burden on our social resources?

Are they trying to destroy national cultures? Do they want the whole of Europe to be void of individual cultures and be a mash up of people in each European state? Why do that?

UKIP are not the answer. They give their supporters false hope and really I think they are some kind of buffering and soak up for the explosion of resentment about foreign people like a political control mechanism for those who are fearful about migration. There is not a hope in hell of Britain becoming a nationalist state, chucking out all the foreigners and going back to some dreamed up golden age of fish and chips when everything was alright. It was actually never alright. If my grand dad were alive he could tell you about growing up in the slums and losing close family members to TB because the houses were built too close together that allowed for cross infection.

If I were making the decision I would in the short term be tackling this E.U migration. There would be strict quotas. Argue for that, Mr Cameron. Even if it is just for the short term future while we get to grips with this enormous, Europe wide social problem. If Brussels will not listen then let us get the hell out of the EU until it is a more realistic and common sense institution. I don't think we would be worse off. I think we would be better off socially at least. Britain at the moment is not a happy place to be. Everyone is miserable about the way things are apart from a few making huge amounts in real estate and not having to pay the workers as much.

The education level of migrants into the UK is generally higher than our own population, which is what puts them at a disadvantage. However commenting on how some nationalities such as the polish don't mix is just hypocritical. I took advantage of free movement and lived in Europe for 5 years. The number one group who doesn't bother to learn the language or respect the culture of the country in which they reside is the British.