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Ridley Scott Addresses 'Exodus' Casting Controversy

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posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn




Scott should stick to making Alien movies.


So he cant make a "religious" themed movie that may be a blockbuster to cash in? Oh I forgot only starving artists are creative.




posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

BTW Prometheus 2 is in pre-production expected in 2016



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 04:09 AM
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SO WHAT?!? WHO CARES?!??

some people always find something to complain about and make a big deal out of NOTHING.

It's still probably going to be a good movie, no matter what the color of the actors.

Here's a nice idea, go direct your own movie. Oh, that's right, shut up.
edit on 28-11-2014 by Bovah because: Because I can



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 04:11 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: starwarsisreal

The word jew did not come into common usage until the 1800's. It is thought that the orginal hebrews- khazars possibly came from the caucasus mountains; so they were probably lighter skin than the semites of today. Some have speculated that Moses was a pharaoh, treated the hebrews kindly and escorted them out of Egypt when they wanted their own land to settke in. We may never know the full story

www.greatdreams.com...

Well prote Hebrew Pharaohs did in fact ruled over lower Egypt they were known as the Hyksos or shepard kings and they came from the Levant one of their kings was called Yakb Hr or Yacob which we now call Joseph keep him in mind when next you hear the story of Joseph and Abraham's family sojourned into Egypt,they were not the humble goat herders we came to believe but proper kings and armies to back them up,after about 150 yrs they were expelled en-mass

Moses or if he ever existed in any form would have came from families with deep southern roots,they would likely have been disgruntled Aten loyalist who walked out or was kick out when the Amun priest hood regained power from Akhenaten who was most likely murdered.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: Bovah
SO WHAT?!? WHO CARES?!??

some people always find something to complain about and make a big deal out of NOTHING.

It's still probably going to be a good movie, no matter what the color of the actors.

Here's a nice idea, go direct your own movie. Oh, that's right, shut up.

Well alot of people do care they want themselves reflected on the screen and not just as slaves,servants, thieves and professional murders as this movie has done come on are we still in the 50ts or what.and like I said the casting is one thing the costumes bugged me as well .



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 05:00 AM
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David Dennis Jr. sounds like a tiny, tiny man. Much of what passes as cinematic critique these days is Mythbusters-esque bickering concerning so-called accuracy, which is usually just people projecting their need to be the smartest person in the room.

On a positive note, Ridley Scott has never seemed to be overly concerned with his critics, legitimate or not. He appears to do what he does as a livelihood and out of love and respect for the craft.
Looking forward to seeing this epic in the theaters.
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posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 06:35 AM
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Not sure what colour the Egyptians were at the supposed time of the Exodus (1500 BC?). Didn't Ramses have red hair? Didn't Tutankamen have European R1a Y chromosome? I saw some research where the ancient Egyptians were descended from the Guanches of the Canary islands who were white with red hair and travelled across North Africa. I think as time went on they would have mixed more with other Africans. The Copts of Egypt are supposed to be the true descendants of the ancient Egyptians so they should have cast them as Egyptians. The Nubians that conquered Egypt were probably dark but the Hyksos were white Indo Europeans that invaded the ME and Egypt. The ancient Greeks often referred to Egyptians as black though (see Herodotus) though this was about 200 bc.
cheers



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

If the Film is great... people will go to watch it.

I don't think he should have used 'White' Actors and put Brown make-up on them.... not only do they look stupid, it undermines 'Actors' who are 'Brown' skinned.

I'm 'Mixed Race' for instance and could have played 'Ramesis' . At least I would have looked the part! Its way too obvious the guy in this Trailor has been covered in make-up!!



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 06:57 AM
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Really? Who cares? It's a frickin' movie.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 07:27 AM
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It seems whenever there is a Western production in the arts, people demand "diversity" when it comes to choosing actors/characters, but when a non-Western country (China, for example) makes movies they are never criticised for their lack of diversity when choosing actors to carry out the plot.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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Last time I checked, biblical movies since forever have had either accurate or inaccurate skin colors represented. I don't see anyone in PC-mode ever complaining about the cast ethnicity of the original Ten Commandments. That's considered a classic film, no less.
FFS, if a character's/actor's skin color takes away from the story for you, then the story must not be THAT important, eh? I don't give a s**t one way or the other because A.) We have enough movies in this theme, so what's one more, and B.) If the script is good, then who cares.

Regarding the script, for example, JJ Abrams cast a white dude as Khan Noonian Singh. To refresh memories, Khan was Indian. Cumberbatch is as lily white as we white folk get. Granted, the original Khan was played by Ricardo Montalban (ehem, who was Mexican, not Indian) it doesn't matter much, because the image of Khan was a set-in-stone visual depiction, and that depiction was altered in the Abramsverse, not the actor's origin (a Ricardo 2.0 wouldn't have ruffled many, if any, feathers) Into Darkness was still a pretty good movie overall, so it's not like Cumberbatch sinks it, the story was worth more than his skin tone. Now, In biblical flicks, nothing's set in stone because everything's altered depending on who the audience is. It always has been.

People just don't have much of anything left to bitch about.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: grumpy64
Not sure what colour the Egyptians were at the supposed time of the Exodus (1500 BC?). Didn't Ramses have red hair? Didn't Tutankamen have European R1a Y chromosome? I saw some research where the ancient Egyptians were descended from the Guanches of the Canary islands who were white with red hair and travelled across North Africa. I think as time went on they would have mixed more with other Africans. The Copts of Egypt are supposed to be the true descendants of the ancient Egyptians so they should have cast them as Egyptians. The Nubians that conquered Egypt were probably dark but the Hyksos were white Indo Europeans that invaded the ME and Egypt. The ancient Greeks often referred to Egyptians as black though (see Herodotus) though this was about 200 bc.
cheers


The bulk of the population were African they varied in hue and facial form just as many Africans do today they did by the time of the 18th and 19th dyn had minorities from out side Africa settled in the land, that Ramses had red hair was a myth his hair was treated with henna like many African people today in East Africa,the story about Tut's R1a dna was also busted the guy pulled a screen shot from the making of the documentary that was a test not the actual dna which was not released at the time and ran with it,in any case R1a is found in high concentrations in Chad,Cameroon and northern Nigeria of up to 40 to 70% ,but more to the Armana Dna sequence which included Tut and the 18th dyn rulers they were mainly E or E1b1a which is quintessentially African.

That's why I said these two dynasties were among the most African as they shared deep roots with the Great lakes region of central Africa ,the Hyksos were mainly Levantines however I would not rule out an indo European presence among them given the use of the chariot which was introduced into Egypt at that time they were most likely connected with a people called the Hurrians.
like I said if they made the movie to represent life during Hyksos occupied lower Egypt I would have had little to complain about the casting perhaps not even the pants and high boots would had bothered me much
That the Egyptians descended from the Canaries is pure fabrication.
Any way the movie is meant to be fiction all the detractors are saying including me is give people of color their due in a civilization that was about them stop being soo 1950ts about things.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 07:51 AM
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It's fiction so it really doesn't matter. And ancient Egypt was multi-cultural. I'm not seeing the 'problem'.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 08:23 AM
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I hope we see Frodo in the movie.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 08:24 AM
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People people people I know it's a fantasy flik set in Egypt but more than poetic licences is involved here,he explained that his backers would not fund the project if he didn't use all white cast for the lead,and he is not the only one as I said Danny Clover is having the same problem and so did Steven Spielberg for his movie Red tails,btw how did Mel Gibson pulled off making Apocalypto with an all native American cast and if you didn't speak Mayan then read the sub titles.which I thought was brilliant. this narrow view help type caste people of color into one denominational rolls.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
his backers would not fund the project if he didn't use all white cast for the lead,

It's market driven. Who has the most $$$ to buy tickets ... Americans or Africans?
They make the movie in a way that will sell the most tickets.

how did Mel Gibson pulled off making Apocalypto with an all native American cast

Mel Gibson paid for Apocalypto and The Passion of Christ out of his own money. He was his own financial backer for a lot, if not most, of those films. He made those films for art and for religious reasons .. not for money making reasons like the major studios. (although I should note that The Passion of Christ made a fortune).



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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But there are already many 'Caucasion' people in the Movies!!

My point is, give some others a chance. What chance is there if we see 'Caucasions' getting made up to look 'Tanned'??



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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if they were going to make this movie historically accurate, it wouldnt be made. creative liberty was kind of the theme from the very beginning.

over and out.
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posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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PCness is a rot that would eat its own.
Who really should give a damn whether Moses was portrayed by a white actor than a person of color? Wait a minute! When was being Jewish considered a "person of color?" I suggest that question be asked in Israel. I suspect they would argue that as a false question, that Moses was Jewish to be sure, but was he a "person of color" back then or even today? How do you distinguish a "person of color," bodily looks, region, politics, ethnicity, genetics, nationality? How. Some people just want to cause trouble.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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I like all the ppl downplaying the casting choices as "who cares" and "doesn't matter" and that ppl shouldn't complain about them. . . they're part of the problem.



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