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2,500 New Documents ID'd in White House-IRS Taxpayer Harassment Cases

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posted on Nov, 26 2014 @ 10:59 AM
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So, it looks as if the White House coordinated with the IRS to harass conservative groups.
Hopefully, these newly-discovered docs. will show us how high this coordinated targeting has gone.




In a shocking revelation, the Treasury Inspector General has identified some 2,500 documents that “potentially” show taxpayer information held by the Internal Revenue Service being shared with President Obama’s White House.

The discovery was revealed to the group Cause of Action, which has sued for access to any of the documents. It charges that the IRS and White House have harassed taxpayers.

In an email from the Justice Department’s tax office, an official revealed the high number of documents, suggesting that the White House was hip deep in probes of taxpayers, likely including conservatives and Tea Party groups associated with the IRS scandal.

In requesting a delay in the delivery date of the documents, Justice told Cause of Action, “The agency [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration] has located 2,500 potentially responsive documents and anticipates being able to finish processing 2,000 of these pages by the December 1 date. It needs the additional two weeks to deal with the last 500 pages to determine if they are responsive and make any necessary withholdings.”

Cause of Action, which calls itself “Advocates for Government Accountability,” wasn’t surprised by the number of documents. It had filed suit to win access to them and a federal judge shot down Treasury’s earlier bid to hide the documents.

“This disclosure, coming only after Cause of Action sued TIGTA over its refusal to acknowledge whether such investigations took place, and after the court ordered TIGTA to reveal whether or not documents existed, signals that the White House may have made significant efforts to obtain taxpayers’ personal information,” it said in a statement to Secrets.

The disclosure follows the agency’s recovery of 30,000 “lost” emails from former IRS executive Lois Lerner, the central figure in the IRS-Tea Party scandal.

Cause of Action said the latest finding renews their “concerns about the decaying professionalism of, and apparent slip into partisanship by, IRS's senior leadership.”

Below is the full email from Treasury:

My client wants to know if you would consent to a motion pushing back (in part) TIGTA’s response date by two weeks to December 15, 2014. The agency has located 2,500 potentially responsive documents and anticipates being able to finish processing 2,000 of these pages by the December 1 date. It needs the additional two weeks to deal with the last 500 pages to determine if they are responsive and make any necessary withholdings. We would therefore like to ask the court to permit the agency to issue a response (including production) on December 1 as to any documents it has completed processing by that date, and do the same as to the remaining documents by December 15. I note that the court’s remand was for a “determin[ation],” which the D.C. Circuit has recently explained can precede actual production by “days or a few weeks,” but we would prefer to simply agree on a date for turning over any of the remaining 500 documents that may be responsive.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...




posted on Nov, 26 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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Damning for sure.

But Obama said there's not a smidgeon of corruption there !!!



November sure has been a bad Month for Obama hasn't it.



posted on Nov, 26 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Damning for sure.

But Obama said there's not a smidgeon of corruption there !!!



November sure has been a bad Month for Obama hasn't it.



Yeah that is why they were playing up Ferguson.

He has said more about that, and other shootings than his collusion with the IRS targeting his critics.



posted on Nov, 26 2014 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

When u are involved in the corruption any good mob lawyer will tell u to deny corruption exists.



posted on Nov, 27 2014 @ 04:51 AM
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Sounds like a RICO suit needs to be filed.... IRS and the Obama Administration named as defendants.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

Hopefully, these newly-discovered docs. will show us how high this coordinated targeting has gone.



Spoiler alert...Nothing..zip...nada

there is nothing in the docs that will validate the far rights conspiracy theory.

Thus all the headlines about the docs being "discovered" = plus a whole lot of hopeful speculation..

Cuz the headline "2,500 new docs found" is the most useful part of the discovery, not the content.



posted on Dec, 5 2014 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

I wonder why they would even generate those "documents"?

They must have been keeping score of something.




posted on Dec, 6 2014 @ 01:33 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

If there was collusion between the White House and the IRS then the documents are important.

From what I have seen Valerie Jerret is linked into this mess, who is a senior advisor to Obama.

Also if there was no standing to do this then the federal judge would not have taken government lawyers out behind the tool shed and force them to turn over the documents.



posted on Dec, 7 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Indigo5

I wonder why they would even generate those "documents"?

They must have been keeping score of something.



They are required to keep those documents? They were retrieved from the emergency recovery back-up?

Were you not aware of the same?



posted on Dec, 7 2014 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

If there was collusion between the White House and the IRS then the documents are important.


OK...That "if" pivots on innuendo, speculation and conspiracy theory with all evidence of the same having failed scrutiny.



originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

From what I have seen Valerie Jerret is linked into this mess, who is a senior advisor to Obama.



See above...any evidence that Valerie Jerret is linked traces back to right with talk show hosts just saying stuff.


There is a difference between what we want to be true and what is in fact true and that distinction cares not for poltical ideology.



originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5
Also if there was no standing to do this then the federal judge would not have taken government lawyers out behind the tool shed and force them to turn over the documents.



This seems to demonstrate both confusion about "standing" as well as our judicial system...as well as the description of "out behind the tool shed" seems strange? The judge ruled on the veracity of a subpoena for documents. It happens a thousand times a month in this country. It does not speak to the content of those documents or anyone's guilt.



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

The information contained in the documents supports the accusations made by both, the groups the IRS screwed with and politicians on government oversight who investigated the allegations.

Congress is exercising its oversight ability of the IRS.

The IRS lied about their actions.
The IRS tried to his evidence.
The IRS colluded with the white house.
The IRS lied to the oversight committee numerous times.

We moved from if it happened to Prof it did happen.



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

The information contained in the documents supports the accusations made by both, the groups the IRS screwed with and politicians on government oversight who investigated the allegations.


Oh...I was unaware they had released the content of the documents? Link please?

Cuz otherwise...It looks like that unambiguous statement is clearly just BS you are saying?
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posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

For some reason I'm having issues embedding the link.

www.judicialwatch.org... n-secret-research-project-top-irs-official/



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 12:59 PM
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I'm shocked!..."potentially" and "may have" are now proof!!!!!...here's another one...GOP state election officials "may have" or "potentially" thrown away ballots in the last election that came from black voters...



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

HMMMM...Obama's IRS "Secret Research Program"; THIS is new.
Thanks for posting this link.


Judicial Watch has uncovered more shocking emails from the IRS, forced out by a lawsuit and a federal court,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

“Now we learn the stunning news that Obama’s IRS had a ‘secret research program’ using illicitly-obtained confidential donor lists of conservative and Tea Party organizations that opposed President Obama’s agenda or reelection. With all this IRS abuse, it is no wonder Lois Lerner said that questions by Congress and others were ‘dangerous.’ And it is well past time that President Obama should be held to account about his repeated and recent falsehoods about his IRS scandal.

www.judicialwatch.org... n-secret-research-project-top-irs-official/



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

For some reason I'm having issues embedding the link.

www.judicialwatch.org... n-secret-research-project-top-irs-official/









I got the link and hunted down the actual email that is their center-piece that they are constructing their conspiracy theory around.

Email here: www.judicialwatch.org...
What "6104" is here..
www.law.cornell.edu...

This is about disclosing donors and inspecting finances as best I can tell.

This looks to be a single email excerpted out of context and then painted with a theory in place of "secret project"..

It is Judicial watch claiming a bunch of stuff, with the docs they have not proving the claims..nor even discussing the subject matter..what they are offering is so limited, cryptic and absent of context that an article could have been written that the IRS has obtained a flying saucer and they could have formed the emails to fit.

Again..politics aside...the BS meter is off the charts on Judicial Watch's "liberality" with the facts and evidence.

They have three dots and have connected them to draw the cysteine chapel.

If they received a document dump, then why not simply post the full documents, rather than a few sentences of a cryptic email without context and paragraphs of their interpretation.
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posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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So I guess Lois Lerner took the 5th just for giggles.

Oh, and she decided Contempt of Congress is just a parlor game.

When this is finished, somebody will swing from the yardarms.

And maybe get keel-hauled too.




posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I would wager when this is over with presidential pardons will be passed out.



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 09:27 PM
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Obama is targeting the Tea Party to help the establishment Neocons out. The Tea Party was set up to knock out RINOs, then enter the communists left using government to crush that from happening.



posted on Dec, 8 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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If any of these organizations ever got audited, I bet we would find that NONE of them can produce receipts to show that they've spent 51% of the money raised directly on community improvement programs, which is the basic requirement of getting this tax free status.

In almost every case, over 85% of the money raised goes on fees and bills for services in running the PACs. They only spend about 5 - 15 % on their candidates and NO money on community improvement programs.

The IRS needs to get involved with ALL these groups, not just the right wing ones.




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