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1400 yr old ultra-precise prophecy about ISIS

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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:21 PM
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Tired of vague prophecies which can be interpreted in 1000 ways?
You ask yourself how come no one brings a succinct prophecy which is clear and easy to understand?

Well, then check this 1400 yr old prophecy out:


"If you see the black flags *, then remain on the ground and do not move a hand or a leg.
A group of feeble folk to whom no concern is given will then appear - their hearts are like iron [1].
They are the owners of the state [2].
They fulfill neither a contract nor a covenant [3].
They call to the truth, but they are not its people [4].
Their names are a kuniya and their lineage (surnames) are a town [5].
Their hair is unwinding, like the hair of a women [6].
(Do this) until they differ in it between themselves, then Allah will give the right to whomever HE desires."



Reference: Prophet Muhammad, as narrated by Ali ibn abi Talib, in the collection Kitaab Al Fitan by Nu’am bin Hammad, Hadith # 557



Now, see this explanation of the key points:

* - ISIS uses a black flag which fits in perfectly with the prophecy.

1. - The hadith says they are a feeble folk to whom no concern is given, i.e. they are relative newcomers to the fight in Syria, which then surprisingly achieve much success in a lightning flash - but their hearts are from iron. The arabic used here means they are CRUEL and MERCILESS. The countless slaughterings from ISIS surely fit in here quite well.

2. - The most amazing part of the prophecy is this here: The hadith says LITERALLY (in arabic) that these people are the owners of DAWLA (state) - a word which wasn't even used in the time of Muhammad because there was no concept of "states" in that time - the word DAWLA from the prophecy was basically used verbatim as said by Muhammad although hadith collectors for generations most probably had no idea whatsoever what it meant! But, how does ISIS call itself today? "DAWLA al Islamiya" (the Islamic State). This fact is simply amazing!

3. - ISIS had quite a few contracts with other rebel groups and other al-qaida groups and they BROKE all their covenants! This is a known fact.

4. - ISIS calls to "Sharia" (God's Law) but they themselves do not uphold it! The Sharia for example orders the muslims to treat their prisoners well, to feed them with what they feed themselves and then to FREE THEM and escort them to wherever they would wish to go! The Sharia PROHIBITS the torture or killing of prisoners. Yet, what does ISIS do?

5. - Another amazing part of the Prophecy: The hadith says these ISIS guys will have a Kunya as their name (a kunya is a pseudonym), like Abu-so and so - and what are the names of all the ISIS Leaders? "Abu-Bakr", "Abu-Musa", etc. But wait, the hadith even says that they will use "towns" as their last names! Again, what are the "last names" of the ISIS dudes? "Al-Baghdadi", "Al-Anbari", etc. Simply amazing!

6. - Have you seen pictures of the overwhelming majority of ISIS dudes? Almost all of them have long hair!



This hadith from the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is an extremely precise prophecy about ISIS - a 1400 yr old testament to the truthfulness of Muhammad.

And since there are literally hundreds of other prophecies from Muhammad ... if you wanna know what's next to come ...



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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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It's entirely possible that ISIS is also aware of this prophecy and has "adjusted" their image or behaviors to "fulfill" the prophecy and give them more power or justification in the eyes of fellow Muslims. It's probably been done more than once in the past and will probably happen again...



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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Could be...

ISIS read the same prophesy.


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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: Ensinger23

Actually, ISIS and their supporters are doing everything possible to DISCREDIT this hadith, since it describes them so well (and not in a good light).



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

I really don't see Allah or any other deity for that matter giving ISIS the right to cut the heads off innocent aid workers. And all in the name of said deity. Prophecy aside why he would desire such is a mystery.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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For me it seems like our Powers that be use the book of the mystic skywizard (the bible) to bring forth our prophecy by playing right into it, and in my opinion that is just what their powers to be are doing as well using their very own mystic skywizards (Prophet Muhammad) proclamations to do the same......

Always gonna be who's got the best imaginary friend until one of them actually succeeds in winning, if there really is a winning, after all who really wins when all you've done is convince people your imaginary friend is better??

Over all thats a pretty freaky prophecy and works all too well with what we see today!!

SaneThinking



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Well, that's just that, Allah never commanded them to do that ... they are "calling to the truth, but they themselves are not the people of the truth" just as the hadith says. As I explained above, one example, in this case about prisoners of war, is that according to the Law of Allah you are to treat them well then FREE THEM - but that is absolutely not what ISIS is doing, thus they are disobeying the very Law of God to which they are "calling".



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

I imagine most prophecy's can be self fulfilling depending on ones interpretation. Especially so given the current geopolitical climate. ISIS seems to fit the bill regarding rather a few of our worlds woes and I think its a safe bet that Allah and his profit Mohammed would probably agree that ISIS need to go the way of the dinosaur and rather soon given the fact that if nothing else they give other Muslims a bad name.


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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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Pirates flew black flags, They had a will like iron, they also had hair the was unwinding, they were from a state but claimed none etc etc

Allah is smart Allah forsaw the coming of pirates



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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Not to burst your bubble but .
Sounds like jack sparrow .
Just saying .



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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ISIS certainly fits the prophecy more closely than any other group thus far.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: Brotherman
Pirates flew black flags, They had a will like iron, they also had hair the was unwinding, they were from a state but claimed none etc etc

Allah is smart Allah forsaw the coming of pirates


Alright, yes, Allah is smart.
But what was Muhammad smart too, or just tapping into Allah's smartness? Lol.


originally posted by: Denoli
Not to burst your bubble but .
Sounds like jack sparrow .
Just saying .


Ah ha, you guys must've been watching the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' marathon on WGN yesterday. Or was it just my sad self?

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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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The prophet Mohammed (pbuh) has used the black flag and a white banner with his companions already.
Also, no, there are more IS fighters with short hair than with long hair. Also, top IS leaders have short hair. (Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi for example)

As for places as names. It's a sunnah, or well, very common in the Arab world.

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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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This brings us to a peculiar juncture....(could be right up ats alley)
Seems like theres a certain rhythm that prophecies have which gives rise to a kind of mental paraloloidia sic (the act of seeing what is suggested by eyesight....if you follow me...)
Like the quatrains of Nostradamus etc.....
I don't know about anyone else (because ive never discussed it ) but I can clearly see the visions of these said prophets enacted in my head whilst reading them, and the movie kind of blends itself into my knowledge base connecting with the current prophecy......the resultant stew leaves me wondering....though as yet unconvinced......( think the beast with two heads rising from the waters yadda yadda get me.....
Is this somehow a trait of the wording or the result of the expectations..... IDK
Maybe this can create the m,ental state we attain when we accept this stuff as fact....its psychologically induced through the combination .........er just sayin.....were susceptible to this # from some un as yet known psychological level....like low frequency oscilations etc....



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: stirling

to predict the future means time is linear and concious beings life is pre determined. first we would have to except one of the gods is real secondly we would have to except are lives are pre determined. I think prophecy is bs not one prophecy really fits in any where unless ppl cherry pick this and that to make it fit a scenario, if ppl prophecize about this and that yould also think the people would also understand that the time period they are prophesizing about a little better. Instead they use vague bs and ppl bought it back then like they buy it today.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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I came into the thread to see what the OP meant by using the adverb "ultra" to describe the adjective "precise". Apparently his definition is vastly different than what I would consider ultra precise. My version of ultra precise would, at the very least, be naming names.
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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well it is precise-ish, don't be so overly critical. It's closer than all the other so called prophecies I read...

If I'd be ISIS, I'd be scared... Also the OP has a super cool avatar. Dragon age?



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

You may have had a point if he just used the unmodified "precise", but he threw that adverb into it. To me "ultra precise" screams 95%+ accuracy. This prophecy looks about 20% accurate, if that (since most of it can be retroactively applied or tossed up to them fulfilling the prophecy on purpose).

The best description I could put towards this prophecy is, "kind of less vague than most".



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

I also would assume a self-directed fulfillment of a prophecy.


This is the Prophet that thought he was being possessed by Demons and almost whacked himself. He should have went with this gut instincts, if you think you may be talking to a demon, you probably are and not an angel of God.

Muhammad’s Demon: He Originally Thought He Was Possessed



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The Childhood Demons In his work titled, “Holy Sword: The Story of Islam from Muhammad to the Present,” (Copyright owned by Payne, 1959) he provides hundreds of pages of detail, documentation and historical data.

In his chapter titled, “The Messenger of God,” he sites pro-Islamic sources and the accounts of faithful friends of Muhammad while describing the birth and early life of Muhammad. In his detailed account of the visions that Muhammad claimed to have experienced which led to the creation of a new religion called Islam, Payne tells us that these experiences had Muhammad and others very close to him convinced that he was under demonic influence!

We quote Payne: “Muhammad was about five years old when he suffered the first of the strange visitations which came to him at intervals throughout his life.

“He was walking in a field with one of Halima’s sons when he suddenly fell down, shouting as he sprawled on the ground that two men in white garments were splitting open his belly and stirring it up.

“Asked what happened, he spoke of two angels who had cut open his belly, searching for something, though he did not know what it was. The shepherd was afraid he was possessed by a devil and said he should be returned to Mecca before his malady became the talk of the town.” 1 (Emphasis Ours)

We would do well to note that not only did Muhammad resemble those who Jesus cast demons out of, but that Muhammad never once healed a blind man or made a lame man to walk. Muhammad was not a man of miracles. But, as we shall see, he was a man of murder and mayhem.

“He read the words, though he had never read before,…
“Trembling, he went out of the cave onto the hillside, not knowing what had happened to him, and afraid he must be a sha’ir or possessed.” 3

How convenient that he could read during this vision. And how strange that he would come away thinking that he was DEMON POSSESSED. You will never find an example of a prophet of God receiving a message from God only to wonder if he was full of the devil. But Muhammad was so convinced of the fact that he was possessed by demons that he contemplated suicide! Payne explains: “He was in such agony of mind that he thought of throwing himself off a precipice, and then he heard a voice form heaven saying, “O, Muhammad! You are Allah’s messenger, and I am Gabriel!” 4

Ironically, the TRUE prophet called Moses warned of men like Muhammad who would come on the scene to deceive people.

Moses said, “If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. (Deuteronomy 13:1-3, kjv)

Muhammad flunked the test.

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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 02:37 PM
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You are right, as far as prophecies go it is frigging accurate.

Any other prophecies from the same lot that we should be aware of?



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