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Israel set to make Arabs second class citizens

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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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So much for the only secular democracy in the Middle East.


It's just another incitement against Palestinians & Arabs.

Then they cry when an IDF soldier gets stabbed to death, claiming they're being victimised by the big bad Arabs.



Zionism is sickening.

The whole government of Israel need to be taken to The Hague along with Hamas officials.




posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


Zionism is sickening


Is it really? The christians have the Vatican city, Muslims have Mecca... why cant the Jews have Jerusalem?


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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: combatmaster

Jerusalem is sacred to all Abrahamic faiths for starters...


Secondly I don't know what that's got to do with this topic.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


Zionism is sickening


Is it really? The christians have the Vatican city, Muslims have Mecca... why cant the Jews have Jerusalem?



Zionism is basically Terrorism. Why can't the Jews have Jerusalem. Firstly it's not the Jews that are trying to grab the whole of Palestine for themselves. It's what I call the Fake Jews, in other words the Khazar Jews are the ones murdering people left, right and centre to grab the whole of the land.

Granted, Zionism is a Political agenda or ideology and not a race. But we know them as Fake Jews called Zionists.

It's not a case of asking why can't the Jews have Jerusalem? The Jews had it a long time ago when the land was shared between the Jews, Christians and Muslims. It's only since the Zionist movement came along and screwed everything up with their Terrorism and Murder to take over what didn't belong to them.

ISIS and Zionism are similar. They are both created by Khazar Jews!
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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


Zionism is sickening


Is it really? The christians have the Vatican city, Muslims have Mecca... why cant the Jews have Jerusalem?



That is a false equivalence. Zionism is a Jewish nationalist political movement which supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the land of Israel. You can't really compare a political movement with religious sites...

That said, Israel can't have Jerusalem, because they had violated international law in annexing East Jerusalem. It is generally considered an occupied territory, and it is the claimed capital of Palestine. The UN condemned Israel's unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem in Resolution 478 (1980) of 20 August 1980:


The Security Council,

Recalling its resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible,

Deeply concerned over the enactment of a "basic law" in the Israeli Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security,

Noting that Israel has not complied with resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming its determination to examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel,

1. Censures in the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the "basic law" on Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

2. Affirms that the enactment of the "basic law" by Israel constitutes a violation of international law and does not affect the continued application of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including Jerusalem;

3. Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;

4. Affirms also that this action constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Decides not to recognize the "basic law" and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

(a) All Member States to accept this decision;

(b) Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;

6. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the implementation of the present resolution before 15 November 1980;

7. Decides to remain seized of this serious situation.

Adopted at the 2245th meeting by 14 votes to none, with 1 abstention (United States of America).


unispal.un.org...
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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

What was it the man said about those who fail to learn from history?

Also, what happened to that European country which passed laws about certain peoples being "second classed citizens" in the later part of the 1930"s?

Maybe the "golden rule" is does not apply to some people. Maybe we could all learn from this example and "do unto others any damn thing you want too" because there is no judgement coming to be worried about.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Israel is the last stand for Jews of Europe and Nort Africa. It is this special thing that means Israel will commit itself to survival. It wouldn't exist if it were not for an Austrian, those people would be living in Bratislava, Warsaw, Berlin and Cassablanca


I agree that Israel must survive if the Jewish culture is to survive. The problem is, if Israel goes from a secular nation that accommodates Jewish law to a nation governed by Jewish law, the interpretation of that law becomes the key to political power. This will lead to sectarian conflict of the sort that is destroying the Islamic world.


Totally agree. Israel is no longer secular like it used to be. The founders are dieing out, the new 'born in Israel' type are hardened by terrorism/war ands increasingly religious. It was a socialist vision at one time with a smallish Jewish ultra orthodox fringe, these now growing in number like mad



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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In order to DESERVE to survive, you must accommodate yourself to the environment that you are in.

Is-it-real has demonstrated an inability to do so.

It is another religious backwater that will be flushed with or without the USA's permission due to its insanity. It keeps doing the same process, disenfranchising the entire globe and most severely in its locale and expecting this to be accepted. Like a boil, it will pop and spread the instability by exciting reactions by other religious nutbags.

Belief systems without provable foundations are a manifested sickness of comfort seeking weak people. The psychologically needy must believe knowable structures in the ineffable or to deny that the ineffable exists.

Being chosen by Allah, Abraham, Christ, Buddah or any other BS figure is a defense against the unknown. The Jews, Hebrews, Zionists cite non-Jews as being unable to become true Jews due to bloodlines. They then ascribe negative attributes to the rest of humanity. (Please do not mention 'good' Jewish humanitarians or the persecutions of an exclusionary race. I have duly noted this.) This has been done since the founding of their peculiar craziness.

If you need proof of their total bias for themselves, see the Old Testament. Ask if the belief that they are "The Chosen People", as derived from Yahweh's (the mass murderer) sentiments has changed.

It's time for defenders of these fiends to realize that if you aren't Jewish, you ain't poop. Your Christianity is inanity to them. Your savior is BS. To the claim that Abraham influenced Mohammed, you're mad. (Not that I even care beyond attempting to understand mass goofiness.)

The Zionists are merely a faction who actually express the tenets of their faith. The rest either lie about the long term intentions or aren't actually Jewish. They just use it to make business contacts. That's why orthodoxy is the dividing line between 'true to the faith' Judeans and the amoral pack that constitutes the rest.

A direct quote form the world's most successful porn producer when asked why Jews dominate the porn industry, "A lack of ethics." They haven't completely forgotten the Golden Calf.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: MALBOSIA

Growing up many years ago we had christmas in school, then we tried to celebrate as many different faiths holidays as possible.... Problem, they were far too frequent and too many to include all, so the school I attended decided to celebrate none. It wasn't to not offend groups by having a holiday, it was to not offend a group by missing one and including another.

Get over your political cramp in your side.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: largo

This is the kind of hate mongering that makes us atheists look bad. Israel was not founded out of superstition, but out of a pressing need for a refuge from genocide; very real genocide, not the metaphorical genocide that some "persecuted" groups claim. Israel has adapted to its environment by being as ruthless and violent as their neighbors.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

Well,

My give a crap meter on "offending" muslims is at an all time low today.

Show me one place in a Muslim country which tolerates other religions as well as Israel tolerates theirs and then I might care once that miracle happens.


Hippocrates will be Hippocrates.










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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: daaskapital

Well,

My give a crap meter on "offending" muslims is at an all time low today.

Show me one place in a Muslim country which tolerates other religions as well as Israel tolerates theirs and then I might care once that miracle happens.


Hippocrates will be Hippocrates.



Infolurker just won the internet today. Why are we limited to only one star?




posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

Can you say apartheid? Sure, knew ya could ;-)

Cheers- Dave



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital
"A flag, anthem, the right of every Jew to immigrate to the country, and other national symbols. These are granted only to our people, in its one and only state,” Mr Netanyahu said in public remarks at the cabinet meeting.

The citizenship bill goes to the Knesset on Wednesday. Arabs make up about 20 per cent of Israel’s population and strongly oppose it.

www.theguardian.com...


It begs the question as what legally determines you as "our people". What if you're not ethnically Jewish, but religiously Jewish and have been raised as Jewish your entire life? What if you're a Palestinian Arab who has converted to Judaism in a totally committed way, and have been Jewish for over a decade, or longer?

Is there a court in Israel that you can go before to present evidence of your Jewishness?

Is it going to be a punishable crime to wear, sing, and promote the symbols, flag, and anthem, if you're not determined to be Jewish in their court of law?

What, a pre-payable fine citation for having an Israeli flag or symbols on your car or business?
(Most Arabs in Israel wouldn't be caught dead doing this anyways)
lol

This entire thing is silly. It almost seems like Israel is struggling to define itself in today's modern world.
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posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 02:36 PM
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You can only officially be Jewish if your mother was. Converts don't count.
We had a school here in the UK that refused to allow a boy to start there as only his father was Jewish, even though he as a practising Jew, because his mother was not born Jewish, they don't consider him a Jew.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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Oh great, more hypocrisy from Israel, what else is new???

I just love how they stomp the multiculturalist, PC bullsh!t down everyone elses throats until we choke and die, but as soon as they get back 'home', those same AIPAC and CFR dual-nationality traitors always pull a complete 180°, and vote in Israel for fascist laws....

Funny how they believe in preserving their own culture while taking a big steaming dump on everyone elses.......



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: r0xor

You can only officially be Jewish if your mother was. Converts don't count.
We had a school here in the UK that refused to allow a boy to start there as only his father was Jewish, even though he as a practising Jew, because his mother was not born Jewish, they don't consider him a Jew.


Actually you are wrong there. They are to accept converts to judaism as if they were always jews according to their religious text. That in itself shows the Current jewish leadership is wrong. What they consider and what God considers are two seperate things.

@ theperson who says JEWS started ISIS you really need to seperate feelings from facts.They are natural enemies to each other.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Tedgoat
The Zionists don't care. They are Racists and bigots. They have been persecuting the Palestinians ever since they took over Palestinian land.

Just a pity that some of the Jewish community have taken on the mind set of the Zionists.

As far as the rest of the world is concerned, Israel is a Rogue Terrorist State!

But as Far as Israel is concerned they think they are God's Chosen Ones and they can do no wrong.

This Citizenship Bill is just another nail in the Palestinian Coffin!


Talk about racism and bigoted thinking. You do know that according to dna they are both related. also when the romans renamed the area from JUDEA to Palestinia they renamed all who lived there as well. calling them all palestinian.
Of course this means that decendents of them were left when the romans left as well.

SO therefore they had a legitimate claim on the land just as much as the arabs who lived there did. LAter on there was a civil war or two and we have this current situation. And yes according to relgious text they are The chosen people,BUT and here is the big issue they were not suppossed to had reclaimed the land until God returned to give it back to them.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: daaskapital



Well,



My give a crap meter on "offending" muslims is at an all time low today.



Show me one place in a Muslim country which tolerates other religions as well as Israel tolerates theirs and then I might care once that miracle happens.





Hippocrates will be Hippocrates.




Kind of surprising someone would bring up this question.

Can anyone tell me which Middle Eastener country has a Christian, Jewish and Muslim members in it's Parliment?
It actually has this as a part of it's constitution.

O K Give up?


Do a little reading on the make up of the parliment of Iran.

Shocker! No?
















posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: DJW001



Israel was not founded out of superstition, but out of a pressing need for a refuge from genocide; very real genocide, not the metaphorical genocide that some "persecuted" groups claim.

Seeing how the paperwork was drawn up for Israel before the genocide happened you can't say that it was made because of the genocide. It was originally drawn up in 1922 but wasn't finalized until 1948. The main driving force behind is superstition you can see one Israeli after another saying that God gave them this land.


Israel has adapted to its environment by being as ruthless and violent as their neighbors.

Actually history shows it was relatively peaceful there before the Zionist showed and started to ethnic cleanse the land. You cannot do this and expect everyone around you to be peaceful.




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