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Jacob Crawford of We Cop Watch gives away hundreds of body cameras to Fergusen protestors...

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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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Oh, first let me start by saying i love it when someone whos actually halfway intelligent lays the smackdown on some MSM model.



Founder of WeCopwatch and producer of the first know-your-rights video to use content entirely from the street, Jacob Crawford has long advocated that cameras be used during police interactions. But, unlike many who mindlessly clamor for more taxpayer money to be used to try to make the police less brutal by outfitting them with body cameras, Crawford recognizes the importance of you and me – as non-police employees – possessing the camera.


I love it... this was crowd sourced i personally plan on donating because i completely support this approach 100%. i am all for accountability.




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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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That's fantastic, so glad I don't live in America, it sounds like a scary place to live with all this cop violence going on. a reply to: onequestion



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:20 PM
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If they're not doing anything wrong they wont mind the cameras.

Thats what they're always telling us!

Fantastic idea. They should start a youtube channel and upload all the footage for all to see.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: Cloudbuster
That's fantastic, so glad I don't live in America, it sounds like a scary place to live with all this cop violence going on. a reply to: onequestion



Yep, it's changed a lot since I grew up and lived there. I'm definitely not going to live there again.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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Live feeds would be great !!




posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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Oh, first let me start by saying i love it when someone whos actually halfway intelligent lays the smackdown on some MSM model.


How do you figure he laid a smackdown on her? I thought they both did a good job in that interview and there was no smackdown or even a need.

I'm all for this, glad you shared it OP. I think it's ridiculous that in this day and age cops aren't wearing cameras. Glad some citizens will be outfitted and trained.

Almost every freaking patrol car has a camera now. Sure back in the day it wasn't feasible to outfit every cop, but it sure is now. I think it would end up saving cities a TON of money. More importantly it would help make it clear if a cop acted out of line or if a person is filing bogus complaints.

I sort of understand the resistance from officers. If I were a cop I would actually be begging for the things or purchase one on my own.

The guy makes a good point in the interview, the cop cams only show one perspective. I think it makes a ton of sense for protesters to be wearing them too.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

You didnt see her scramble when he had a solid answer?



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Citizens wearing body cams to protests, sad it has come to this point in the US of A. Otoh I find this a fantastic idea for evening the playing field and I anxiously await the results!


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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:26 PM
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I don't think she was flustered, I think she just wanted to appear objective. The way she held up her hand palm up suggested to me that she agreed with him.

The only weird thing I saw was her saying "Just wanted your answer". You can read that a few different ways. I read it as I'm sorry I asked because duh.

Either way, nice find and glad you brought it to our attention. I'm all for accountability.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:32 PM
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Hope they don't have the little red light when recording. Nothing like warring a glowing bulls eye at night.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: Philippines

originally posted by: Cloudbuster
That's fantastic, so glad I don't live in America, it sounds like a scary place to live with all this cop violence going on. a reply to: onequestion



Yep, it's changed a lot since I grew up and lived there. I'm definitely not going to live there again.
but do you still have to pay tax in america on your earnings that you in earn in another country. That has to be one of the most ludicrous laws. Unless you drop your USA citizen ship. I couldnt believe that rule.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: Philippines

originally posted by: Cloudbuster
That's fantastic, so glad I don't live in America, it sounds like a scary place to live with all this cop violence going on. a reply to: onequestion



Yep, it's changed a lot since I grew up and lived there. I'm definitely not going to live there again.
but do you still have to pay tax in america on your earnings that you in earn in another country. That has to be one of the most ludicrous laws. Unless you drop your USA citizen ship. I couldnt believe that rule.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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As a general rule, tax you owe the US on foreign income can be substantially reduced or even zero if you have already been taxed on said income in your country of residence.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:44 PM
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Don't the cops have authority to take any recording equipment off anyone if they witness a crime?

Cops can confiscate get any footage from phones nearby or in building because "a crime has occured" and they think you may "delete the evidence".

www.katu.com...

www.techdirt.com...

I liked this quote:

"No matter how many courts claim that videotaping police is legal, no matter how many officials instruct the cops under them that people recording them aren't breaking the law, they will only care once those rulings and instructions come backed with punishments for failing to comply, and not a minute before."



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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It's not. There are more than 780,000 police officers in the United States (used simple math to come up with that number from this source and this search), so to even have the number of these types of incidents be one percent of the LEOs in America that doe this, we'd need there to be 7,840 incidents per year--and that's only 1%, which I would find to be a very acceptable level of mistakes in any profession.

Keep in mind, you rarely see the good that officers do because it doesn't make headlines. Don't let sensationalism be the driving force of your opinion of the U.S. and living here.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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The better question would be: Why remain a citizen if you hold that much disdain for the country? All citizens are taxed per the law, no matter where you live. You don't want to pay or live in America, don't be a citizen. It's pretty simple.

Of course, I'm anti-income tax altogether, so there's that...



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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The better question would be: Why remain a citizen if you hold that much disdain for the country? All citizens are taxed per the law, no matter where you live. You don't want to pay or live in America, don't be a citizen. It's pretty simple.

Of course, I'm anti-income tax altogether, so there's that...


According to the Mayor Of London, who has dual citizenship, it's tough to get out of being a citizen of the USA. He hasn't been in the US, except to visit rarely, since being a toddler. His new book is being promoted here and he was ticked about still being taxed by the IRS.



posted on Nov, 24 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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ideally the 'citizen cams' would transmit their data instantaneously to some kind of cloud system but i'm not sure if that might be prohibitively expensive tech for a giveaway?



posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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I'm sure it is tough (and expensive...it now costs just south of $2500), but if it's something worth doing, you do the necessary work. The it's-too-hard-so-I'm-going-to-just-not-do-it mentality is a weak excuse, especially for the mayor of London.



posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Cloudbuster

It's not. There are more than 780,000 police officers in the United States (used simple math to come up with that number from this source and this search), so to even have the number of these types of incidents be one percent of the LEOs in America that doe this, we'd need there to be 7,840 incidents per year--and that's only 1%, which I would find to be a very acceptable level of mistakes in any profession.

Keep in mind, you rarely see the good that officers do because it doesn't make headlines. Don't let sensationalism be the driving force of your opinion of the U.S. and living here.


I think the public wearing cameras is a great idea. After all, they have cameras on cop cars, in public and private buildings, on street corners and intersections. What's left? The population of course. We have vid cams on our phones but with the new phones, in a very often abrupt, short but critical time to need a camera, it's a fail. Wearing an ongoing streaming camera that live streams to a laptop of your choice would be awesome. Not just for cop abuse but many other critical situations such as automobile accidents, criminal activity against oneself etc. I very much support this and now that it is appears to be an option, the light will be shed on a lot of LEO criminal activity.

One thing that concerns me especially about the LEO's is the FACT that many minority drivers are pulled over and over and over, harassed for simply being a Black or Hispanic. These claims are made in many cities and constantly denied by LEO's but the facts speak for themselves and it's a real issue. This might help deter needless harassment and we just might find we need a lot less LEO's than previously thought because after all, the crime rates aren't as high as the criminal justice system (ahem) makes it seem. This will empower the public and most likely cut down on LEO criminal activity against the people.

Slap Monkey, the cameras aren't for exposing good behavior because good behavior isn't an issue. Bad behavior is, thus we need to protect ourselves to the best of our ability. This would be another resource.

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