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My application to join the UK Armed Forces.

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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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Having just recently applied for a role as a Soldier in the UK Armed forces, I'd be willing to step foot on the ground to protect the people of the Middle East, as well as the brothers and sisters already serving.

However, I'm worried that hearing voices will stop me from being eligible despite the fact the voices do no control how I act.
Any Armed Force vets on ATS have any information or advice for me in that respect would be much appreciated.

I'd love to serve my Queen & Country.

I've heard the voices since I was 4 yrs old and it's never stopped me from working before...

I know this is a different job altogether from my previous employment.

I have no qualifications...
But that doesn't hinder my chances.
& I wanted to join as a Soldier in any case, even if I had qualifications.

I expect to hear back about my application in a couple of weeks, then I'll have to go for a 2 day physical & mental training course.
I'm quite excited.

I'd really appreciate any input from vets who have served and also current serving members of the Armed Forces.

Thanks ATS!


Note: Didn't know which thread this applied to mods, apologies.
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

heheh

You do know US gave 500 million, Canada 90 million, UK at least 100 million.

TO FORM ISIS

Ever heard of Syrian Rebels.....ever wonder what happened to those guys.

Ever asked yourself where did ISIS come from and how come they became so strong.

But what do I care, participate in this game if you are so inclined



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

If you have a mental health condition you will be barred.

I wanted to join the royal navy when I finished uni and was barred simply for have depression.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:57 AM
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I've had the fortune of working with British SAS.

Bunch of seriously professional and badass guys.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

The four ineligible mental health problems were Schizophrenia, OCD, Alcohol & Drug Dependence & PTSD...

No mention of depression, but I'm not sure how long ago you applied.
Edit: the Royal Navy may have different eligibility policies.
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: WineWithIce5

I don't know what all that has to do with this!

I tend not to believe that this is a game on our level...

Especially when people are being massacred.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
I don't know what all that has to do with this!

I tend not to believe that this is a game on our level...

Especially when people are being massacred.


If you do not understand ? Perhaps you should re-read my post.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: WineWithIce5

I understand perfectly fine...

& I disagreed with you...


However my question was what has IS got to do with me asking vets for their opinion on application to Armed Forces.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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However my question was what has IS got to do with me asking vets for their opinion on application to Armed Forces.


In all likelyhood , you will end up fighting against IS.

You will also be fighting for your Squadies , not for the Queen & Country .

You will be bullied somewhat .

Queen has been blackmailed and Country has been Hi-jacked looong ago.

Good luck with your choice , try to stay true to your humanity .



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: WineWithIce5

Stop derailing the thread. Your statements are incorrect and do nothing to add to the thread itself.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Charlie,

I've never served, so i will not be much help at all here, lol. That said, i wish you all the best, and don't give up if they decline you for the reasons you stated. You could possibly sign up for another position if they do decline your application though. It may be worth discussing during your checkups and courses.

Best of luck!



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital


You could possibly sign up for another position if they do decline your application though. It may be worth discussing during your checkups and courses.


It's like a last chance saloon in me finding an occupation I can enjoy and be proud of, but I never really thought of that my friend.

Thanks, I appreciate the input very much.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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However, I'm worried that hearing voices will stop me from being eligible despite the fact the voices do no control how I act.


Yet.

The stress of combat may change that in a very sudden and dangerous way. If/when you get that straightened out, go for it. I applaud you for wanting to serve your country, but you don't want to potentially endanger your fellow soldiers.
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I'm confident that it'd never be a problem on such a level pal.
I'm used to it, it's actually the lack of work and activity that makes me wonder if it could get worse.



You are 100% correct though, I wouldn't want to put others at risk.


Thanks for the input, much appreciated.
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: 23432


Good luck with your choice , try to stay true to your humanity .


Absolutely my friend.


Thanks.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

No doubt pal.


I'm sure you enjoyed it as well.


Thanks for serving.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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You need to get some treatment for those voices of yours...and never mind soldiering......
I agree those voices may turn very nasty later on in a combat role......
I believe you will be barred from service .....the psyche part of the testing will find you out......
but I could be wrong and you are just what they are looking for ......
either way, I think combat will not be good for your subsequent mental health.....



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: stirling

For voices, there is pretty much nothing they can do short of putting a bullet in my head.

No meds actually diminish the voices...


You could be right...
I guess that's why I'm a little excited about the evaluation...
Hopefully I can prove my worth.


Thanks sterling, for the input.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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I'm not a vet but be open and honest about your condition.

Chances are you''ll be barred as stress will exacerbate any mental condition and giving a guy who hears voices in their head a gun is a recipe for blue on blue. However you have to remember it's to protect those serving alongside you, and yourself. Any attempt to hide it will get you thrown out and barred straight away.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: bastion

I agree.

I was definitely going to be completely honest about my condition.

I was diagnosed with First Episode Psychosis which is treatable and curable and I haven't had any problems with it since 2012.



Hopefully they'll be understanding that I do not find the voices stressful nor do I act upon them.
They're more of a nuisance that don't have any real effect.


Thanks for the input pal.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

As far as I am aware, hearing voices is only considered a mental health issue if those voices tell you to do negative things. The criteria changed about 10 years back, so mediums and psychics weren't unfairly labelled.

I can't recall the name of the diagnostic manual the uk psychiatrist use, but you should be able to find it on line and check my memory.

If I am correct I guess it is all down to how much information you have put in your application along with what is written in your medical file. Only you know the answer to that.



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