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US, Canada & Ukraine vote against Russia’s anti-Nazism resolution at UN

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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 04:55 AM
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originally posted by: stirling
More propaganda bushwa...lets talk about the reality of Russia doing exactly what Hitler did while being anti Nazi.....
This is straight Bulldooey


Was it Russia that chased people into a building in the east of the Ukraine and burnt them alive ?

Was it Russia that has invaded eleven other countries like the Germanys did in WWI or is it the USA that is invading everyone.

Russia might not like gays too much but the streets are not full of people doing a Nazi salute like we have in Kiev

Sorry my friend but I cannot agree with you here.




posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 05:07 AM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard

originally posted by: stirling
More propaganda bushwa...lets talk about the reality of Russia doing exactly what Hitler did while being anti Nazi.....
This is straight Bulldooey


Was it Russia that chased people into a building in the east of the Ukraine and burnt them alive ?



Was it Russia that has invaded eleven other countries like the Germanys did in WWI or is it the USA that is invading everyone.

Russia might not like gays too much but the streets are not full of people doing a Nazi salute like we have in Kiev

Sorry my friend but I cannot agree with you here.


Jeezeus talk about obfuscation.....

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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: VirusGuard

Was it Russia that chased people into a building in the east of the Ukraine and burnt them alive ?

It was Russia that staged false flags and blew up apartment buildings killing their own people to get Putin elected and a Pro War government along with him.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard




Was it Russia that has invaded eleven other countries like the Germanys did in WWI or is it the USA that is invading everyone.


Your right it was 15.


en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 05:35 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard




Was it Russia that chased people into a building in the east of the Ukraine and burnt them alive ?


And you have beyond the shadow of a doubt evidence that Russia didn't have something to do with it, because as of yet nobody knows exactly who is responsible, and the fact that Russia is the cause of the separatists movement then they could be held responsible if it shows the separatists are responsible.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: VirusGuard




Was it Russia that chased people into a building in the east of the Ukraine and burnt them alive ?


And you have beyond the shadow of a doubt evidence that Russia didn't have something to do with it, because as of yet nobody knows exactly who is responsible, and the fact that Russia is the cause of the separatists movement then they could be held responsible if it shows the separatists are responsible.


This shows the ignorance level of some Americans whom are still desperately defending not only the fascists and nationalists of Ukraine but an billionaire oligarch as a president whom has lied for quite a while now.

you have beyond the shadow of a doubt evidence that Russia didn't have something to do with it

Where is the evidence that it were themselves that burnt themselves to death? oh wait STOP FAKE, Kiev post are your sources "fail"



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter




Russia is not fascist.


And neither is Ukraine, but that doesn't stop certain members from trying to push that fallacy.

And your right Russia isn't, but Putin is working his way down that path.


The typical response of an American whose desperate enough on defending an Issue where the majority of Americans dont even know where Ukraine is located on a map.




And neither is Ukraine,

Yes it is.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I am not surprised you would even defend this vote.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 06:22 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter




Russia is not fascist.


And neither is Ukraine, but that doesn't stop certain members from trying to push that fallacy.

And your right Russia isn't, but Putin is working his way down that path.


The typical response of an American whose desperate enough on defending an Issue where the majority of Americans dont even know where Ukraine is located on a map.




And neither is Ukraine,

Yes it is.

I would ask for your source on that claim, but I already know it's me. Thank you for respecting me so much that you quote me.

So what do you think about Russia bombing it's own people in apartments in a false flag to elect Putin and a pro-war government?



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: APT1Yksnidnak

Look of course Ukraine is going to oppose the measure. People don't seem to remember history too much. Yes western Ukraine sided with Germany during ww2. However, that's only cause the Germans were arming them again the White Russians loyal to the Czar and the Red Army loyal to lenin, who both were burning the country in order to annex it. Further after ww2 Stalin killed over 7 million farmers by starving them to death. which occurred in mostly western and central Ukraine. The reality is that The government of Kiev which is actually more like central Ukraine, as well as the western area of the country absolutely hates the Russians and want to be westernized. the Eastern part didn't really suffer all that much, and had massive Russian immigration. As a result you have the civil war. Do you actually think that Ukraine who is fighting a civil war that its enemy is being supplied by Russia would agree with anything Russia put out? of course not. Do you think the U.S. who has opposed everything Russia has done in Ukraine would agree to something that would basically try propagandize the Ukrainians? Of course not. Do you think Canada who is a brother to the U.S. who loves the u.s. and the u.s. love back would be anywhere else but at the U.S. 's side supporting us 100%? not going to happen. Look Americans and Canadians do have some differences. Canadians are typically more liberal, BUT no matter what, Canada and the U.S. will always stand with each other. I'm a little disappointed in U.K. and Australia, but they have their reasons I suppose. As far as all this goes. This Resolution is nothing more then propaganda to attempt to get the general council to look down on Ukraine.

Cheers,

Camain



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:05 AM
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US, Ukraine? Two countries? Freedom, democracy?



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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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Well, I don't think we are going to get a one world government anytime soon, The UN seems mighty good at making things worse, just look at what happened in the old Yugoslavia, one side disarmed by NATO, but the other side kept theirs, and NATO turned a Nelson eye to the slaughter.



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: APT1Yksnidnak

This kind of goes hand in hand with Canada's (anyway) treatment of the terrorist, mandela, or almost any terrorist turning their murdering rampages and terror campaigns into the acts of misunderstood freedom fighters. I wonder how harper would like it if the shoe was on the other foot, if a bunch of misunderstood freedom fighters went after the canadian government? Probably never happen though, we're too apologetic even for our idiot government, they're just misunderstood criminals.

Canada is pretty good at producing propaganda that makes right wrong, good bad, turning terrorists into heroes, the average law abiding person into a criminal, etc. I've been unfortunately observing this happen for more than 40 years and Canada is run by a bunch of oligarch assclown f....s. Of course the same can apply to the US, but at least they kept mandela of the terrorist watch list a lot longer than Canada ever did. The Ukraine is the question really, of course they have a nazi-like ruling party that is being backed both financially and logistically by the US, and therefore its lapdog harper in Canada.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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Putin net worth 40 billion......but hes no oligarch hey?
get a grip



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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It's no surprise that the Jews want to clamp down on free speech, but it's great that these three countries are standing up for freedom.

I'm ashamed Britain only abstained, it's getting scary in Europe where in many countries it's illegal to make fun of zee Germans (no uniforms, no nazi salutes etc.) . They don't even let us shoot Nazis in video games!

Out of curiosity, what happens if the U.S. votes for something unconstitutional in the U.N.?



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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It condemned any form of denial of Nazi war crimes



So, I say the Nazis committed genocide against the Marquesans, and I demand compensation for them. Anyone who speaks out against this is condemned by the U.N.

How absurd!



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

Which countries is the U.S. invading again?



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: KlownKilla
a reply to: VirusGuard

Which countries is the U.S. invading again?


Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Ukraine, and maybe some African ones I don't know about - Sierra Leone? I guess we still have some troops in Libya?



posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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To the OP.

Here's the actual UN resolution.

Link to UN resolutin as PDF

Good to see Russia voted Yes as they have a particular problem with Nazi-ism and associated ideology within Russia itself, as shown by a goodly range of far right nationalist groups kicking around.

However, the way RT.com (the voice of Russia) reports this, you know that it is just another way to engineer a situation that allows Russia to push the fallacy that Ukraine is a nation if Nazi's, a point oft propagated by certain individuals on ATS.

I have no doubt that Ukraine voted "no" due to the political cynical way Russia promoted the resolution, as echoed by RT.com.

Regards
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posted on Nov, 23 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

There is no document matching your request - from your link.

Just curious since you approve of Russia voting yes:

Do you agree with my assertion about the Nazi genocide in the Marquesas, or are you one of those Nazi war crime deniers the resolution condemns?




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