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Mystery Orbs hover over Atrscan, Russia - video

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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I don't know why with cases like these some "posters" automatically rule out extraterrestrial intelligence. I agree it is also a mistake to automatically assume it is extraterrestrial intelligence if other "normal" explanations are not readily available.

However, I am open to the possibility that it is extraterrestrial intelligence if all other "normal" explanations have been ruled out. It would have to be either that or secret human technology that is decades or centuries advanced that the public does not know about. However, the latter explanation begs the question, if it is so secret, why does it happen over a populated area and allow videotaping to occur? That seems extremely logically inconsistent, leaving the former explanation as being the last available and most logical one.

So if you are open to the idea of extraterrestrial intelligence currently visiting our planet I welcome your participation in the thread.

I thought at first these lights might be part of some building, but the video zooms in at about 1:10 in and you cannot see any building. Also with the zoom you can see it is not a plane/planes or helicopters.

I thought it might be a ski resort or some kind of development on a mountain; but first, the lights twinkle and pulse too much to be regular lights, and also I located the city on a map in Russia, it seems to be part of a river delta and a very flat part of the country.

If it was during daylight or sunset/dawn I would say it could possibly be the mylar balloons sometimes mistaken for UFO's, but those would not shine like this at night, nor would they twinkle and pulse.

What am I missing?



Close up:




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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

They look a bit like these which are military flares in Finland.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: gortex

They do look similar.

However, being a chemical reaction, how long does an air-launched flare last? A minute at maximum? In the video you posted they appear to be fading after 28 seconds, while in the video with the orbs, it is over 5 mins before they start to fade away. People from around the world have reported watching similar orbs for up to an hour.

Also, the orbs twinkle and pulse, but the flares do not.

Also, due to gravity, flares, even with parachutes will either be ascending or descending, and that is tough to see in the video you posted due to the perspective, but we know they aren't defying gravity. However, in the video of the orbs, there appears to be no change in altitude over a long period of time. I know this would not be apparent over a few or tens of seconds, but over minutes the change in altitude would be apparent.

So, I commend your investigative tenacity, but I think we can rule out flares.

Are you open to the possibility this is non-human technology/phenomena?




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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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I'm clueless but good video, S&F. They aren't moving much and the single orb approaching from the left is curious.

It would be nice if there was a simple program that could determine if videos are CGI right off the bat, that would omit a lot of false claims.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I think the guy who posted the video misspelled the place name , I also suspect that the video may be from St.-Petersburg, Russia where a UFO event happens every year that strangely coincides with Russian military exercises.
Here's a similar video from St.-Petersburg which are also flares.





Also, the orbs twinkle and pulse, but the flares do not.

From past research I found they're called Chandelier flares , which is probably due to them staying aloft and twinkling , they're used for pilot training.


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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: StoutBroux
I'm clueless but good video, S&F. They aren't moving much and the single orb approaching from the left is curious.

It would be nice if there was a simple program that could determine if videos are CGI right off the bat, that would omit a lot of false claims.


I think someone (in another thread) posted a link to a site that can at least check pics for tampering, I will post it down at the bottom of this post.

There is a funny thing with fake videos and pics of UFO's/aliens. The fake ones seem to conform to our expectations as derived from popular culture, whereas a video like this, is kind of strange and unexpected and subtle. So I'm more likely to be skeptical of an "in your face" and obvious saucer, whereas with this I'm less skeptical that it is faked (but of course that is still a possibility).

Link to testing for fake pics



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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Interesting. But they still look different from the lights in the OP. The lights in the OP video twinkle and pulse quite a bit, I don't see that in the videos you posted. If the lights were flares in the OP, how do they defy gravity for over 5 minutes? Your flare videos are 29 seconds and 2 minutes.

Also, what is that strange light that joins the "cluster" in the 2nd video you posted at about 1:30 in? It is moving horizontally so can't be a flare, not flashing so not commercial or military aviation........




posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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It is moving horizontally so can't be a flare, not flashing so not commercial or military aviation........

I can't remember whether it's a jet or a dummy missile shot from the jet , I think it's the latter.
The flares are used for pilot training.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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The most likely fact for me to rule out military flares is this:

The strange orbs have been described all around the world similarly, almost always white and amber colored, moving like nothing else known to people. However, most military flares are white and red or multicolored like the one in the first flare video. No one is reporting seeing green orbs (just green meteors).

Here is a timelapse picture from another thread of one of the orbs, no flare I know of could defy gravity and move like this:




posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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Brilliant stuff, looks like a couple of ufo orbs clustering in flight formation. A blinking type pops up on the elft for a moment. Good capture



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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Here is a timelapse picture from another thread of one of the orbs, no flare I know of could defy gravity and move like this:

Of course, moving the camera could have nothing to do with that.

It's true that the lights in the video do appear to show very little descent between the two wide angle views (about 3 minutes apart) though. But I'm not sure how that make them "not of this world."

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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Mufon Report

That was my experience with these lights. There were a few mufon reports, from different angles in the province that night. I agree with one witness: their motion was very robotic. The airport was shutdown during the experience. We took photos & video. They show nothing but the intensity of the light compared to the planes around it, the flashing, location, time, etc.

I think they're earth tech.

I identified the Russian Cosmos satellite that flew overhead (via Satellite AR Android app). It was apparently launched just in time for this event. I filmed it with a 270 mm lens, manual tracking. I won't speculate on the satellite's purpose; my interest is that it was there, at that time. I don't think it was luck.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


Here is a timelapse picture from another thread of one of the orbs, no flare I know of could defy gravity and move like this:

Of course, moving the camera could have nothing to do with that.

It's true that the lights in the video do appear to show very little descent between the two wide angle views (about 3 minutes apart) though. But I'm not sure how that make them "not of this world."


Sure, the camera could be moving, but hundreds of people around Cedarville have seen the orbs, including law enforcement:





Courtesy Earth files

And for those of you who don't like Linda Moulton Howe, these orbs have been reported by hundreds of people all over the world.

Also, as I mentioned in the OP, this doesn't automatically make them "not of this world", I clearly stated that I am just open to the possibility. Are you?
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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: gortex




I can't remember whether it's a jet or a dummy missile shot from the jet , I think it's the latter.
The flares are used for pilot training.



Does it sound reasonable that they would be dropping military flares and shooting dummy missiles over the second largest city in Russia?



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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Yes, that was my first thought as well. Flares, sure, but missiles, even dummy ones with no warhead? I don't think so.... What do you think about the video in the OP?


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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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Interesting video, at 3:30 in there is a light off to the left that seems to be moving towards the pack, and blinks in and out of view. Add it to the head scratcher files!



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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Does it sound reasonable that they would be dropping military flares and shooting dummy missiles over the second largest city in Russia?

What makes you think they were over the city? Flares (I not sure that's what they are) can be visible over very long distances. There is no way to judge whether or not the lights were over the city.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: jaws1975
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


Interesting video, at 3:30 in there is a light off to the left that seems to be moving towards the pack, and blinks in and out of view. Add it to the head scratcher files!


That's interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Similar to the other video posted above that you debunked. I doubt they would be launching missiles, even without warheads over a populated area, and it looks too slow to be a missile.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: jaws1975

originally posted by: gortex
I can't remember whether it's a jet or a dummy missile shot from the jet , I think it's the latter.
The flares are used for pilot training.

Does it sound reasonable that they would be dropping military flares and shooting dummy missiles over the second largest city in Russia?


No it doesn't but they don't do that , the exercises take place around Lake Ladoga which is about 25 miles from St Petersburg.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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Perspective definitely plays a big roll in these videos, it looks like the video is zooming in to the city area, and the lights appear to be above that. The brightness of the lights appear to be equal to the city lights below. In my very amateur opinion, if the lights were 25 miles beyond the edge of the city, they wouldn't be as discernible as they are. As an example I watch incoming flights to Vegas, and from 25-35 miles out the headlights on the planes are not as visible as the lights in that video, and those headlights are super powerful. I will admit that there is no way to know either way on this, other than I thought the dummy missile idea was really stretching it.




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