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Sick Liberal Sex Education with Taxpayer Money!

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Schools shouldn't be teaching 11 year old children how to engage in foreplay. They should instead be focused on teaching children how to read and write, and they should be teaching children math and science. Test scores in this country stink. The job of the school - teach reading, math, science, history. The job of parents - teach sex education. If everyone did their job correctly, then this country would be much better off.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

and i agree
i also didnt say dont take any action



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Kids do not need perceived officials telling them sex is OK. That with media pushing sex is just giving the last of the hold outs the green light. Our society cannot debase itself much more before it implodes.

Kids are going to use drugs anyway why not show them "safe drugs usage"? The slope gets steeper by the day and we will soon all fall down. Media has been pushing underage sexualization in subtle ways for a long time now.

Something is amiss. I feel like I have slipped into some alternate reality these past 14 years. Since the turn of the century something really bad has been accelerated. Like a spliinter in my brain I can feel it.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

This doesn't take place at school and it's not just for students. It's a 2-day conference that requires parental permission. I agree with you that if everyone did their job correctly, this country would be much better off and no one else would feel the need to teach kids about sex. But parents aren't doing their job. They are in denial until their daughter turns up pregnant. Then, because of the negative stigma around abortion, the kid has the baby and their lives are forever changed. And not usually for the better. They become a statistic.

After reading several sources about this conference, I have found out enough to know that I'd want to attend with my child if I sent them at all (they probably wouldn't need it). But I think something should be done to educate kids about sex instead of denying that they engage in it. At least these people are doing SOMETHING. It probably needs to be adjusted so that it's more palatable to adults and not so "in-your-face", but I still think it's a good overall idea.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: LoneGunMan

Kids are going to use drugs anyway why not show them "safe drugs usage"?.


that is actually a really good point.
parents are also in denial about their kids and drugs/booze/tobacco...

im not against the sex ed classes at this point but i would prefer my daughter not to take them...

i am of the opinion that sex education should happen at home, when the parents decide their child is ready...
i dont need my daughter watching videos in class with 20 other kids...i was in those classes. i remember what it was like.
there are always the token 'funny men' that like to make their 'super cool and edgy' comments about this or that to get a laugh from their cronies and piss the teacher off.

i dont need or want my daughter learning about sex in that environment.

i dont even know what they teach or how they teach it these days but its up to her mother and i.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: Grovit
i dont even know what they teach or how they teach it these days but its up to her mother and i.


You know, I agree. What my child learns and when she learns is up to me. That's why I probably wouldn't send my kid to this. My point is that this kind of education has its place. For parents who are uncomfortable talking about sex with their kids, for those who think it IS the school's job to educate their kids about sex or for kids who don't have parents around... The more kids know, the more likely they're going to grow up and finish school without an unwanted pregnancy and/or abortion. I'm pro-choice, but lowering abortion should be a goal, IMO.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic


You know, I agree. What my child learns and when she learns is up to me. That's why I probably wouldn't send my kid to this. My point is that this kind of education has its place.


i suppose youre right.
to be honest, i have opinions about a lot of things, this being one of them but i really dont care all that much.
it can have all kinds of places as long as its not around my kid. i care as much as i like to discuss things but that is where my concern stops.

my kid wont be going near this seminar. depending on what and how they teach sex ed in school in like 12 year y kid wont be taking part in that either.

i will pull my daughter out of school and home school her in a hot second if things start to go a way that i dont approve of....



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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I love all the feigned outrage from conservatives on this site. It's almost comical. chastity belts are still available to buy for your precious kids to keep them away from all the icky business in life



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Grovit



Point being ......What exactly are they being taught
What part of

the lessons are they actually taking in


My grand daughter who will be 18 years old in three months has had

three girls in her year give birth in the last 18 months, one having had

twins! .... and she has accompanied two others to the 'school nurse'

for the morning after pill .....


In my eyes it appears to me that something's not working.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: eletheia
In my eyes it appears to me that something's not working.


Exactly. Kids think it can't happen to them. I think a program to educate kids on exactly how easy it is for them to become pregnant may be more beneficial. Let them care for those "real-care" babies for a week as a school health assignment. See if they really want to take the chance on having that to deal with. And hand out condoms for free.

They're going to have sex. The best thing to be done, IMO, is to educate them on how easy it is for a young, healthy girl to get pregnant and then let them really see what it's like.

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 01:30 PM
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Somewhere, pedophiles are touching themselves when reading all of this. That's how sick it is. I'm for sex-ed, but around 10-12 years of age. I'm not for teaching them how to pleasure themselves and each other. That's a parents job. A school (or any other body) should not have anything to do with it. If the parents can't do it, or are unwilling to discuss it, then they should perhaps seek sex-ed courses themselves.

Besides, our society is pushing kids to be sexual at a younger and younger age. Perhaps we should be taking a look at what we as a society find acceptable in music and television instead? Kinda, address the real issue instead of pussyfooting around it addressing the effects instead.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

that real care baby crap is also something else my daughter wont be doing.

it is not that i am conservative...far from it actually.

i just have very set views on what a school should teach and what is for the parents.

i dont need my kid toting around some fake ass baby doll all day and night, doing pretend feedings.....
time would be better spent on other things...

instead of screwing around with a fake baby, there is all kinds of math, science, and music that she could be learning



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

The human animal is a very sick creature. It will use its young to entertain itself sexually.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: tavi45

More than likely one or both were either sexually abused(completely possible based on statistics) or one or both was introduced to a sexual scene on tv etc prior to the age that would be appropriate(puberty). Also to heretic, while "humping" in the general sense is common(after all, kids just know something feels good), taking traditional sexual positions at the age of six would not be common behavior. I.E. Boy humping girl in traditional sexual role play is not normal behavior for six year olds.

I have babysat and been around a lot of kids. They do a lot of things but if they start doing particular sexual acts to other children to me that is a big red flag. I didn't experience this but a woman I knew had a cousin that ran to his teacher because a boy at school wanted to play "doctor" and was touching him. They interviewed the little boy and come to find out his stepdad had been playing "doctor" with him. So yeah, while little kids will touch and do all sorts of things not really knowing that those sort of things are to be done in private, particular sexual acts or reenacting sexual positions that adults would do is a red flag. I guess most will disagree but that's been my observation.



posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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What is a Liberal but a rogue Republican that gave up being a sharp square so he can go off and get dirty. Liberals are born of the lack of space in the power structure for them so they drift into more leftist territory out of a need for activity.


originally posted by: infolurker
Teaching children as young as 11 on how to use porn, program sex avatars, and do very inappropriate things.

Watch the news video. This is sick, inappropriate, and completely over the line.


Sex Ed Conference Touts Alternatives: Bathe, Shave And Role-Play Together
seattle.cbslocal.com...





posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 06:06 PM
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You are a prude and naive to think that kids aren't engaging in sexual activity. You should be locked up for not teaching them about safe sex. Sex and interest in sex is normal and healthy behavior, what isn't normal and healthy is thinking abstinence only will solve all the problems. You should be thankful I'm not the one able to bring the hammer down on neglecting parents like yourselves who teach their children sex is dirty and sinful or worse teach them nothing at all. This isn't sick, or inappropriate, or over the line, your reaction is.



posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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The gay pride parades here in Vancouver are allowed to parade sexual activity to children all they want. I guess it is safe to slander a schools programs, but a homosexual parade is untouchable.

My 7 year old son asked me if he should like boys or girls and it was not his school that gave him the idea that he needed to make a choice about his sexuality.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Seems like it's teaching kids fun, healthy ways to enjoy sex without having intercourse - giving kids alternatives to intercourse... They're going to have sex anyway. Would you rather them have uneducated sex? Isn't it better if they avoid intercourse and therefore avoid pregnancy and STDs?

Intrepid, what would be a better method?



You didn't direct this question at me, but I will put my 2 cents.

I am all for sex ed. I think sex ed needs to teach kids about the fundamentals of sex. Basic Intercourse, STD's, to be accepting of sexual identity and orientation and how girls get pregnant.


Sex ed needs only to teach basic sexual information. Basic Intercourse and Safe, normal alternatives, like oral or mutual masturbation, not to be teaching kids to wear each others underwear. If that's going to interest kids they are more than capable of looking it up themselves, they don't need a school how to teach them. Everyone says kids naturally explore sexually, why are they not following their own claims? And 11 years old? Are you kidding me? 13 at a minimum, kids are getting sexually active WAY TO EARLY, there is no reason to put it in their heads at 11 years old. Let nature take it's course. I started masturbating before I was 9 years old, and I developed JUST FINE.



posted on Nov, 28 2014 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Schools shouldn't be teaching 11 year old children how to engage in foreplay. They should instead be focused on teaching children how to read and write, and they should be teaching children math and science. Test scores in this country stink. The job of the school - teach reading, math, science, history. The job of parents - teach sex education. If everyone did their job correctly, then this country would be much better off.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



I agree for the most part, but like my previous post said, I have no objection to schools teaching basics like STD's, and basic sexual information, normal intercourse, and safe alternatives like Oral or mutual masturbation, also, they do need to teach kids that if they are sexually assaulted who they can talk to.




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