Well PRIVATE company owners should be allowed to pay employees whatever they want. This is not true of stockholder owned public companies.
Get rid of H1B visas is a start. What a Stupid pet project that is.
AND WHY??? WHY the hell is California allowing ILLEGAL ALIENS to go to school? WTF? Um lets put the drunk who slugged his wife in an argument in
jail (of course she hit him too, don't you watch cops?) with NO rights while a person with ILEGAL in front of their name gets to go to school and get
a job and have state health care. WHAT utter BULL shi* is that all about. I am not against immigration to the U.S. I ask that if you do, do it
legally and learn English. I was amazed when atm's started putting an English or Spanish before you can continue. All right I can live with that,
there are a heck of allot of Spanish speaking folks here, probably 2nd behind English. Now I go to the ATM and there are symbols on there! Damn, if
you come here to live LEARN ENGLISH. No there is no official language in the United States, but almost all of us speak ENGLISH or some form close
enough to at least UNDERSTAND you when you call on the phone from the DMV checking on insurance! Here in good old Fairfax County Va. they want all
employees to speak AT LEAST one other language. Come to the DMV here, its not AMERICA its ...........I donít know what it is but it is amazing. How
can they give a license to drive to someone who doesnít speak English? No wonder some ethnic groups don't like the police because they get stopped
and the OFFICER not only CANNOT understand the bad guy (traffic ticket) but he/she CANNOT explain to them the problem! Wow guess if you know
Vietnamese, Spanish, Farsi, and all the rest you are SUPER COP!
But there is more than that problem. Our citizens need to take a step back and take a look at whatís going on. Itís not the government taking away
your rights. Its individuals who feel it is so detrimental to their child to here a word in school, just a word GOD because he is an atheist and his
individual rights are stepped upon. I am not religious or even follow anything but I donít burst into flames saying it. My feet don't fall off. My
lips don't explode and my tongue turns black and fall off. GOD GOD GOD DAMNNNN.
When are people going to stop and take a good look around? This politically correct swing we are in is getting way out of hand. Are we so willing to
cater to each individual that now the Declaration of Independence cannot be read in a California school because of a word that may hurt someoneís
feelings? Next kids wont be able to say mom or dad at school because a same sex couple has a child and might not understand? Parental Unit 1 and 2.
Wonderful, so soon as a student is traumatized by the video is the ACLU then going to take up her case and sue the state for having her watch it? The
government is not the right place to aim your worries at about rights today. We are taking them away all by our selves. SO damn worried about
offending anyone with a word or song that they cant teach it in schools after all the decades it worked for the majority. Somewhere the rights of the
people as a whole have been lost to a single person. It won't be to long at this rate than when a child is born its mouth is stapled shut because
some one was offended by every word. So worried about your individual rights that you will end up taking more rights away as one person taking offense
to anything will just keep going. Then no one will be an individual because everyone has to be the same so no one is insulted or their feelings hurt
because apparently it is becoming that an individuals right to not be slighted is overtaking the majorities right to free
This is very close to out of control. Well the ACLU sues to have a tape about homosexuality shown in school. Next they sue on behalf of the child who
was offended by seeing the tape when really the kid probably cares less but told mom (oops parent unit 1) about it and PARENTAL UNIT 1 was offended.
Talk about a racket.
Well we can just let self centered individuals who believes the country revolves around them pick away at the right of the majority.
Keep blaming the government while its individuals filing lawsuits that start to encroach on everyone. Lets see if we can take all the way down to
where it is decided you can no longer use the First Amendment and talk because every word has a meaning to someone that is bothered by it. We can all
wear some soft color jump suit because your red tee shirt bugs the person next door and said it hurt her right to look around without seeing someone
in a red shirt.
It may sound absurd but step back and take a look. Slowly things are being banned or taken away because an individual believes their right not to sit
through a moment of silence at school harms them because some might be silently praying? It happened here in Virginia.
Sooner or later you will not be allowed to be an individual like they thought they were winning because everyone is going to have to be the same so as
not to encroach on the right of one, everything will have been so nitpicked at that no mater what you do someoneís individual right get trampled.
Great we should all be looking forward to that. Its happening and we are sitting back watching it. As a Republic it sure seems that the right of the
majority should be the voice of the country rather than the few. Apparently not anymore. If 1000 people want the Declaration of Independence taught as
written why can a small few or even one person take that away? The USA was not designed to make EVERYONE 100% happy ALL of the time, its give and
It keeps going, itís never ending.
Itís not just with words. My kids no longer get grades in school! WHY? Iím not making this up. This is crazy. No more A B C D or F. ummm mmmmm if you
pass you get a P and if you donít you get an N for needs improvement. All so the kids who would have failed would not have hurt feelings by being told
they failed. A little extra credit with a P will get you a little O next to it for outstanding. Plus a bonus, if you get an N and they think your self
esteem will be damaged in some way by repeating the class while you class mates move on...................go with them, youíll catch up. Great! Now
not passing the proper test has no consequence. Now you just learned you donít have to try. PLUS now the kid canít read because she didnít pass the
first class. HOW CRAZY and this is Fairfax county one of the best in the country. Oh we could go on all day.
Hard to have a UNITED STATES when everyone is so wrapped up in him or her that they don't care what a million others think and have no give and take.
Me me me. This is a society made up of many with give and take not an expanse of land made up individuals where every possible single person can be
totally happy. There are things you like and things you don't and if we let people trample all over the majority because they cant compromise then we
are in trouble. Terrorist should take a look at it and realize if something does not stop individuals from pushing the majority around we won't
survive as a country unless it becomes a sterile cookie cutter everyone is the exact same so no one is offended environment. Heck we wont need a
President because there is nothing to negotiate, everything will be the same. Yep you can have your model T in any color as long as itís black. That
will probably offend someone too.
Thatís fu***d up and it doesn't matter if Bush or Kerry is at the helm because we are the ones not standing together when something such as the
Declaration of Independence which means so much to the country gets tossed out because of word and let them break down everything to such a minute
detail that was not intended to be. Ohhh the ME States of America. The delusion people, is being diverted from what happening by a squabble over who
is playing the big cheese. Look around at your fellow citizens taking away things from you. If you don't think our children should learn about the
Declaration of Independence in an unadulterated original fashion then we really are in trouble. We can go ahead and burn the Constitution and Bill of
Rights now because it will be hacked up long before our President will get to it. Itís happening daily.
Now I look around ATS and see more people so interested or worried about a base in dried up lake bed that has been there for years, that has secrets
we donít need to know about yet because it won't matter what is there if they don't start thinking about not letting the train derail. Quit
worrying about a desert outpost in the middle of now where and start looking closer to home.
Oh and do NOT forget ANIMAL nooooooooooooo. They probably test them at Groom Lake! SO F***ING WHAT? The area around that place has the most
pristine wilderness in the country! BECAUSE people LEAVE IT ALONE. OH donít hunt Bambi, we are in their habitat. WHAT? Um folks, there are more
damn rats of the forest or as others call them, white tail deer, than when we first settled in this land! Same with TREES there are more NOW. Why,
because people need lumber so they planted them. Look at the plains states. Used to be all prairies, now there is one hell of a stand of timber out
there. Lets just take away a loggers job, a millers job, a wood workers job and ohhhh the great paper makers job because some three tailed two toed
twenty five mm three eyed newt that is bright yellow lives there. I could care less about the newt. Just like our place in Destin FL. Build a dock,
put in riprap and some stupid PROTECTED grass grows that is not even NATIVE to the place. Canít pull it, its illegal to pull it. GUESS WHAT I pull
it at night
. Oh take me away as it clogs up the waterway! Hell a lot less people live in Milan Mo. Where our farm is than when my dad was a kid
there. Now there is so much wildlife and trees grown you couldnít plant anything soon if you wanted too. Rabitts will eat the fruit, deer and turkey
the grain, bobcats kill the calves, and the stupid Red Tail hawk ENDANGERED what?????????? NOT. Well unless I see them then they become endangered
I really think this a rough road that will end abruptly if people don't start asserting the right of masses over the few. The Romans fell after 2000
years. I hope we make it to 300 at this rate.
I really didn't think that when writing the Declaration of Independence they really had in mind that people would all be happy with no work, no pain
an no OH FORBID hurt feelings. Iím pretty sure the didn't think people in the country really planned on just coasting through life doing as little as
possible and just letting the few folks who donít like what they wrote as a framework just change it and who cares what the majority of the rest of
the country thinks.
You can have any color model T you want as long as its black.
Lets just start burning the constitution up now so as people who have to have the center of the country revolve around them hack away at it until it
doesnít offend them the way its written can use it for toilet paper.
Wonít work. It has to be a flexible document because it was never intended to make everyone 100% happy in some Utopia. Everyone to make the society
work needs to be flexible on different parts that are important to them and not get so wrapped up because a piece fits every one else but them that
they go running to the ACLU or file a lawsuit to have it removed to suit the individual or minority opinion. Itís a Republic and a majority should
rule it. But it has gotten to the point where a lawsuit is brought up you don't say anything because you might be accused of being INTOLERANT to a
couple of people why the rest stand by and shake their heads saying what next. Absolute rigid ideals are about impossible to work unless everyone can
just sit back and say,
ĒYep it says God. But so what?Ē Otherwise why continue? Individuals with their own agenda not considering the rest of the country are costing
everyone else. Keep going and we will end up with not individuals but programmed human bodies with not any personality at all.
URRRRRRR and all because a few people who don't like it want to make sure everyone does it their way...........I guess now it would be the only and
one way it has to be done now because it hurt their feelings or you are breaking the law that was added or changed just for them. Screw the rest of
the country. ITS ALL ABOUT ME and I have the right to be happy at the expense of the rest of you so phhhhhttttttt to you and HMMM isnít that a bitch
for you Mr. majority. Lets just keep ripping apart the framework to suit everyone until nothing is left. Seems to me it was a foundation to build upon
not tear down.
All these years in the Military must have shielded me from such utter crap. If people can't be flexible and use what they need and give back what
they don't this country has got not a chance. I just hope I am a few feet under by then. What a way to blow up what started as a fight with a King
for stuff like Independence or taxation without representation. Hell brings out the tea and lets go to Boston. Oh never mind it would pollute the
harbor or something.
It goes on and on today:
I wonder how far the Constitution will be torn down by the minority of people who believe they need to twist it and rip parts out to fit their needs
before people end up saying oopsssss we were supposed to build on this frame work given to us by the people who had enough of the King and wanted
freedom for this new country not the right for a few people to be in Utopia while the rest watched and changed our views so the few would be happy as
it is ripped up and oh please caught it and fixed it. Well guess the majority will have to do the work of rebuilding because we would not want to
upset the minority.
I would be scared if a major war like WWII were to happen right now. With the way itís going we are going to have a few people just let us get
attacked because someone out their does not like our policies and we deserve it. I have actually seen that posted. We deserved it. Hm go tell that to
the wives and loved ones of the fine officers I considered friends that died in the Pentagon.
So damn gutless you have to sit and complain like a bunch of little kids until you get your wish while the majority .............. sheesh. Taking the
stars and bars off a flag in Georgia because a minority of people thinks its racist. ITS HISTORRRRYYYYYYYYYY. Remember, it was the flag of the
CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA!! On a positive, it worked so well! Now you cannot drive south of Maryland without seeing THOUSANDS of them flying when
you used to see very few. I am not racist at all, predjudice, probably a little. So is everyone else you are PERFECT. Here in the U.S. The black
people fought so hard for equality. Now they seperate themselves and blame everyone else. We get in an uproar because professional basket ball
players get in a brawl with fans. We look where they get these kids from. The inner city where they play ball all day and say screw everyone and
everything cause im gonna be like Mike *Jordan*! You will see! I would love to know the average number of pro players that cannot even read. What a
bunch of thugs, raised like thugs and still are. Michael Jordan is an awful roll model. Not even one percent of those kids will make it out of
South East DC. Nations capital bull shi*, national war zone is what it is.
The kids need schools, good schools. They deserve it. AND UNLIKE what Mrs Bill Clinton ( senator yeeeeahhhaaaa ) thinks, it does not take a village.
It takes parents and family or at worst guardians who care. Why would I want to be a teacher today? Hell I make money in Software engineering, alot
more than I would teaching. I have better hours, can work from home and best of all I can be a parent to MY kids and NOT to a classroom full of kids
who just plain have NO manners or respect for ANYTHING at all. Of course there are exceptions. My teacher in sixth grade used to hug me all the
time. I saw her at the beach last summer. We talked about my kids and school and when we all left the beach I and my kids got a hug. She said she
would NEVER do that in school in todays world. One messed up kid takes it funny or because they HEARD its wrong goes to Parental Unit 1 or 2. and
wham fired, lawsuit, you CHILD MOLESTER YOU. Man, man oh man what a shame that is.
You can have your model T in any color, as long as itís black!
The politics of polite and correct is out of hand. Its absurd.
Next topic should be the "moral majority". I just watched All in the Family. How that show got on the air the first place is beyond me. BUT its
a funny show! Wonder how much longer that will be around? Its hard to find on Public Channels but its on cable just like the most popular and viewed
shows are. Or the National Christmas Tree on the mall here in DC? Im sure its days are numbered.
It truly is the 'MORAL MINORITY' and they just scream louder! Just look at what they have done to TV and radio. Can't say this can't show that.
What a load. Change the damn channel if you donít like it. I have never seen a TV or radio with one channel. BUT the govt. and the moral MINORITY
thinks their morals should put upon the majority. So no boobs on TV, no bad language just the minorities same boring stuff. But if they would step
back and see that the Number one shows are on cable and say and show ďawful thingsĒ maybe the clue would close in and they would realize that nudity
and language DONíT BOTHER THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. Oh but its ok on National Geographic when they show people in a jungle running around naked. Why?
OH THEY ARE HEATHENS say the moral minority. Ask them why. The usual answer is ďWell look at them! No clothes on! Breasts out! Oh and a penis!
Not to mention the huge jewelry and ohhhh the ďwar paintí. I bet my mom puts on more paint or Ďmakeupí to make it sound good in a week than these
women paint their whole bodies in years combined. My kids were so traumatized seeing my Playboys aroundÖNOT. Au Contraire. They respect their
bodies and others rights and space to boot.
GET OVER IT ALREADY FOLKS. Your morals are just that, YOUR morals. Keep them to yourselves and your family. CHANGE THE DAMN CHANNEL IF YOU DONĒT
I hope my kids do ok. They are 15 and 10, boy and girl, both do well in school. Both can read, write and do arithmetic without a computer. They
both are respectful to elders and above all their peers and teachers and other adults respect them. They went to church even though I am not
religious. They needed to go until they could make up their minds about what to believe. My son made up his, my daughter will be allowed to stop or
continue when she turns 14 also. I have never heard foul language from either but if they use it at some point in time, fine, just donít turn into a
gutter mouth. They donít get in trouble out or at home. They know the limits on video games and watch TV all they want. They may buy any game they
want, but the moral minority has decided they are to young for some. T
The only thing about their growing up that bothers me is making them check in every couple of hours. WHY IS THIS? I was out all day and half the
night at their ages. But the media seems to make crime so much worse than it was then. ITS NOT, IT IS OVER REPORTED. The crimes are the same but
more people are around so more people do it and more people get caught. So they check in time to time. Hugs and kisses and I love you flow freely.
I don't even pretend to know what all the answers are but one is for sure and that is term limits and no more career polotician in the house and
It needs to happen, because soon us younger folks and our kids will be running the country. Do we wan't business as usual as the politician just
keep grooming new kids so their legacy lives on? Or do we want a return to what used to be or at least felt like a normal life here? I think the
latter, although I bet June and Ward Cleaver had one bed and not a pair of twins, that was for TV right???
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