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Originally posted by jukyu
Its my opinion that they're trying to make all children wards of the state with the ACLU's ultimate goal to turn America into a communist nation. They are already doing everything possible to get rid of our history (pledge of alliegence etc.), our patriotism, and anything resembling religion. That is how you create a communist state, you get rid of history, religion, and patriotism and people become sheep with nothing left to fight for. At the same time you create an education system on a national level that indoctrinates them on the party line of socialism and give them the same rights as their parents after destroying the family. We're heading down that road folks, one legal decision at a time.
Please respond, I'd love to think I'm completely off base on this and we're not losing our nation from the inside out
i know when i have kids i will teach them everything they will have to know and tell them to ask me for advice when they have problems, let them deal with things and let them experience hardships all on their own because i know for fact that will turn them into a stronger person in the long run!
They will not always come to you to get advice, and if you give it, they may not always listen.
Originally posted by jukyu
As I have been requested to provide a link for my stuff, well here it is.
So Rant, where is your argument?
Now the one thing I would like to know is had the parent said nothing and it later came out that she knew what happened and didn't do her part to turn the guilty party in, how would she have been viewed by her community?
Originally posted by RANT
What worldnetdaily has done here (as they are famous for) is twist a very simple matter into the most contrived argument about liberals being anti-family I've ever heard. A conviction was overturned on a robbery committed by a boy based on testimony from a woman that was eavesdropping on her daughter. The testimony was illegal for any number of reason not having anything to do with a conspiracy to destroy the family.
And from this we move to parental notification. I love that one. Sounds good on the surface until you realize conservatives don't want to allow for extenuating circumstances (as if they want abortion rights at all). Did you ever think there may be a good reason a 16 year old girl may not want to tell her father she's pregnant? Like he may beat her or worse...be the Father?
How about he may make her have the baby when she doesn't want to! It's her body, even at 16. Not his. As long as it's a legal medical procedure, you have a right to have it done in private.
And we're just talking about parental notification. Not parental consent. That's really what you'd like right? A 17 year old woman has to get permission from her Daddy to get an abortion. No thank you. You're free to believe that's "destroying the American family" but I disagree. It's protecting civil liberties on the front lines.
What's up with the rest of your theory? ACLU trying to destory our history? How exactly? You cite the Pledge of Allegience. That's seriously the funniest thing I've read in weeks.
Next. So the ACLU are commies? Tell me, do you read anything but right wing propaganda? The right would probably think our founding fathers were radical leftist hippies too.
"Believing... that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." --Thomas Jefferson
Did you know a socialist preacher named Francis Bellamy wrote the original pledge in 1892 with no mention of God at all?
In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.