Are We Done With The Clinton and Obama Trainwreck Yet?

a reply to: duaneology

"Hillary Clinton will be the next POTUS. Cry all you want but it's going to happen."

That's doubtful. The only way Obama won in 2008 and 2012 was thru "election fraud" by manipulating the election machines. But states are backing away from voting machines, because they are expensive to repair/maintain, and are too easily hacked. The voting finally reflected the many polls last month, only because 70% of the voters used paper ballots. Without that "election fraud" edge, Hillary can't possibly win, since her record and performance as Sec. of State are a joke - at best.

And GOP channels keep hinting that she has serious health issues, which may be why she won't officially declare her candidacy.

Candidates for both parties should declare by the end of 2015, with the election in 2016. And lessor known candidates should be out getting some exposure now, if they want want to climb out of the Dark Horse role. Hillary's got name-recognition, and has a publicity machine that keeps her piddly activities in the news. And Congressman Gowdy stepped forward to present a white-washed Benghazi investigation/report for her. (Maybe she promised him the VP slot?)

A lot can happen between now and 2016, especially with the Obamabots running from one hyped event to another, to create an out-of-control crises so they can declare Martial Law. And Hillary can buy all the polls she wants. With paper ballots in 2016, she hasn't got a chance with the majority of voters.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...
POLL: HILLARY LOSING PROGRESSIVES AND YOUNGER VOTERS

www.washingtonexaminer.com...
POLL: BENGHAZI GETTING WORSE FOR HILLARY

www.washingtonexaminer.com...
HILLARY'S E-MAIL PROBE EXTENDS TO FOUNDATION AND AIDE

www.judicialwatch.org... asks-federal-court-to-reopen-lawsuit-seeking-information-on-top-clinton-aide-huma-abedin/
CITING MISCONDUCT AND MISREPRESENTATION BY HILLARY AND STATE DEPT., JW ASKS FEDERAL COURT TO REOPEN LAWSUIT SEEKING INFO ON HILLARY'S BFF, HUMA ADEDIN

www.judicialwatch.org...
JW EXPOSES CLINTON MISCONDUCT IN COURT

www.judicialwatch.org... -days/
JW SENDS NEW FOIAS TO PROBE HILLARY'S SECRET E-MAIL SYSTEM, LAWSUITS COULD FOLLOW BY END OF MARCH

thehill.com...
GOP REP WANTS HILLARY TO GIVE SERVER TO 'NEUTRAL' ARBITER

So now Chicago's battling over the Obama Presidential Library ...

www.latimes.com...
OBAMA'S PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY
The battle in Chicago is over its proposed location: a public park.

Maybe he should do what Little Rock, Arkansas, did for Bill Clinton's library: evoke eminent domain.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
I see there are some who still dont get it....

Clinton, obama, bush, romney, paul...IT DOESNT MATTER.

Theyre all sides of the same coin.

I agree. But it's even darker and more depressing than that, I'm afraid. The fact of the matter is that it simply can't be fixed. Government can never work for everyone. Someone is always going to be screwed. The power is always going to go to those who want it the most. Those who want it the most are always going to be those who are willing to do the worst things to get it.

Things like basic left and right are really irrelevant here. The problem is very simple but also very big. Government is the driver's seat of the world. Everyone knows you can do anything you want from that seat. There are some very bad people in the world and unfortunately, a lot of them are at least smart enough to figure out how to get in the driver's seat. And many are unfortunately much smarter than that. Bad and smart scares the hell out of me.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
If you're asking me to pick from the current crop of elected officials, I'd say nobody. If they're in office right now, they're part of a broken, corrupt system.

100% in agreement, but the sad news is that anyone that is put
forth by the 2 party system is "compromised" as well.

I do not think we will be given any choices that will not
be puppets for the billionaires.

Thus why I call them the puppets on the potomac.

I call most of the governments of the world Kleptocracies
because it is government for thieves by thieves.

This is evidenced by a portion of their theft being found offshore.

$32 trillion offshore needs IRS attention

Anything short of "Tabula Rasa" will end with the same puppet masters
bringing in a new flock of puppets to use the "operation mockingbird"
media to sell us a new line of complete BS.

Operation Mockingbird

Some of it was likely not traceable.

originally posted by: jude11
C'mon Ron Paul!

This is YOUR time!

We know you hung up your hat but the timing has never been better...Just once more!

Peace

When FOX news was caught editing in booing from a different presentation
years old footage, then people need to realize even his own so called party
was against him.

I was a fan of Ron Paul as well, but all that series of corrupt events did for me
is show that the current system is beyond repair as stated by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

The level of corruption and evil as shown in several films and books shows
the government is merely political theater put on to make the public think
they have a say in the government when its actually an illusion.

The film "Hacking Democracy" shows the elections are rigged.

Obama getting 99% of the vote in over 100 precincts in Ohio also
show that was rigged as well, and in such a manner as to rub it in
out collective faces and ask us "What ya gonna do about it Schmucks ?"

Well the answer to what are we gonna do about it is "Nothing".

What sheep are good for is bleating, and that will be that.

Watch the film world water wars, and the youtube video
named "Confessions of an Economic Hitman", the world
according to Monsanto to get an idea of who and what
we are dealing with.

originally posted by: lostbook

originally posted by: MKMoniker
Thanks for all the comments. Sounds like everyone is "fed up" with the current crop of politicos in DC. I heard someone say one time that it takes a "certain personality type" to go into politics. I would guess that means a thick hide, ability to lie convincingly, and align yourself with scum who is rich and powerful. AND a certain delusional form of thinking, that you do and sacrifice "so much" that no one appreciates, so you are perfectly entitled to corruption and graft to line your own pocket with taxpayer money.

Used to be, men who had been successful in business, many times graduated to politics to share their knowledge and management skills. They knew this was a time to take a steep pay-cut and serve the Greater Good. Now anyone and everyone can run for political office. I guess this is "progress and equality of opportunity," but I see more egos and campaign mud-slinging than skills to handle the job. Like most people, I end up holding my nose and voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

I've argued long and hard for "term limits" in the federal Congress. But the persuasive counter-argument (found out the hard way in state congresses), is that just as a Rep/Senator learns the ropes and can be assigned to committees, they have to leave.

Obama "was" that fresh face, an outsider, and someone who was one of the people; a regular joe. He qickly changed once in office-didn't you notice how fast his hair turned grey? Al if not most politicians probably start with positive ambitions in mind.

I'm sure being threaten to be knocked off by JFK is enough to change anyone.

Not to mention the NsA likely has big fat files of every politician deepest darkest secrets.

Eg give us and the CIA more money or we will leak how you like gay midget japanese donkey porn ect

The problem for the GOP is three fold.

1. Part of the party that goes out and votes in the primaries are far right and vastly out of touch with the general population. Meaning anyone running has to swing hard right and the back to the center for the general election letting them get beat over the head with saying the opposite of what they said before.

2. The Democrats out number the GOP at the national level and that number is growing. The GOP driving away woman, minorities (Hispanics in particular who used split even), and the youth means the the GOP best chance for a win is very low voter turn out. That happens in the off years but, rarely with a Presidential ballot.

3. What is the GOP really going to campaign on? The economy is good, unempoyment is way down, soldiers are no longer being killed in over seas wars, millions of more people have healthcare, Osama is dead and AlQuida wrecked, ISIS is on the run, old enemies have become friends. And the worst part is that Congress has literaly done nothing. So the GOP has nothing positive to run on and no real target to attack. The last thing they want is anybody asking if you were better off 8 years ago. The last thing they want is to bring up is the last time the GOP held the White House and the state the nation was in at the end of that time. I expect the GOP is going to have to go with heavy fearmongering catering to its base but, that will not sell with the center.