Best Masonic History Doc I've ever read ...

Hey all

Came across this document a few days ago, its the best I've read, felt inspired to share the link here with you all ...

hermetic.com...

enjoy and much love

xxx

a reply to: oxford

Could you be a bit more descriptive on what you found of interest and why you feel it is the best in regards the history of Masonry?

Masons are the best, once i tried to lay a brick wall but at the end i had to tear it down and hire one.

Wrong mason history?

originally posted by: Indigent
...once i tried to lay a brick wall...

Did you wine and dine it first? Little Barry White?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm more of a Isaac Hayes kinda guy


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chef is the best ladies man, bricks need love too...

The Hermetic Order and O.T.O may have started out as a Freemasonry sponsored organization. However, once Aliester Crowley (a 33rd degree mason) took over - it morphed into what it is today.

It was around 1910, if my memory serves me correctly, when then founder of the Ordo Templi Orientis, Theodore Rhuess asked Alister Crowley to join in Germany. The O.T.O originated in Germany and was a huge part of the occult.

So this group of Freemasons claimed to have the secret to working magic practically. In others words, they'd crack the veil and figured out how to effectively make rituals WORK. So Crowley of course, joined up, and rose in the ranks rather quickly. He must have been very influential and impressive because when Rhuess had a stroke in 1921... he gave over control of the organization to, none other than, Aliester Crowley.

Now Crowley didn't waste any time on restructuring the order. He merged his own personal theology 'Thelema' into the organization, and practically forced the Freemason's out. Opting instead, to invite women and men that were not masons, into the order.

Suffice it say, when anyone practices Ceremonial Magic, like the one set out by Waite. You are practicing Freemasonry rites that were made public and available to all - by Aliester Crowley after he took over the O.T.O. Wasn't he a wicked man?

CdT

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: oxford

Could you be a bit more descriptive on what you found of interest and why you feel it is the best in regards the history of Masonry?

Hello Augustus

Well if you compare it to the U.G.L.E version here ... www.ugle.org.uk...
need I say more lol

I am still reading the Yarker version but the way he traces the knowledge and wisdom throughout history is phenomenal, you can tell he has done his research and is a man in the know. Very impressive imo.

originally posted by: oxford
need I say more lol

Yes, actually you do.

I am trying to get you to explain to us in your words what, exactly, you found so compelling. I can read it and walk away with an entirely different perspective.

Try to articulate what specifically you found to be important and why. We may then be able to have a interesting conversation.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Your tone comes across as rather rude, manners maketh man as my mum says, warm up Mr Frosty

No, actually I don't have to do anything I don't choose to do, but you've caught me on a day when I am full of happiness so I am willing to oblige

What I found so compelling was to find that amount of truth in one book, because it would take you a few libraries and quest around the world to discover it for yourself, and you would still be blessed to find it, if at all.

Specifically it is the symbolism and meaning of the art and the craft and how it has been woven throughout history since the dawn of time which I found to be a real gift.

I was inspired to come back here and share it with the other members, because time is precious and that knowledge and wisdom belongs to all of mankind. What good would a book be if hardly anyone read it?

God bless John Yarker!

originally posted by: oxford
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Your tone comes across as rather rude, manners maketh man as my mum says, warm up Mr Frosty

No, actually I don't have to do anything I don't choose to do, but you've caught me on a day when I am full of happiness so I am willing to oblige

What I found so compelling was to find that amount of truth in one book, because it would take you a few libraries and quest around the world to discover it for yourself, and you would still be blessed to find it, if at all.

Specifically it is the symbolism and meaning of the art and the craft and how it has been woven throughout history since the dawn of time which I found to be a real gift.

I was inspired to come back here and share it with the other members, because time is precious and that knowledge and wisdom belongs to all of mankind. What good would a book be if hardly anyone read it?

God bless John Yarker!

Which symbolism and meanings do you find to be especially significant and in what context?

a reply to: oxford

Most of us probably won't get around to reading it in the very near future, so I guess we're hoping you could share some interesting things you found to see if anything sparks our interest.

I, for one, have a queue of about 30 books lined up, but if you spark our interest with new knowledge from the book which hasn't come up in these forums before, it may well move up to the top of the pile.

From reading between the lines, I guess that's what my brethren are trying to say too... :-)

originally posted by: CirqueDeTruth
The Hermetic Order and O.T.O may have started out as a Freemasonry sponsored organization. However, once Aliester Crowley (a 33rd degree mason) took over - it morphed into what it is today.

It was around 1910, if my memory serves me correctly, when then founder of the Ordo Templi Orientis, Theodore Rhuess asked Alister Crowley to join in Germany. The O.T.O originated in Germany and was a huge part of the occult.

So this group of Freemasons claimed to have the secret to working magic practically. In others words, they'd crack the veil and figured out how to effectively make rituals WORK. So Crowley of course, joined up, and rose in the ranks rather quickly. He must have been very influential and impressive because when Rhuess had a stroke in 1921... he gave over control of the organization to, none other than, Aliester Crowley.

Now Crowley didn't waste any time on restructuring the order. He merged his own personal theology 'Thelema' into the organization, and practically forced the Freemason's out. Opting instead, to invite women and men that were not masons, into the order.

Suffice it say, when anyone practices Ceremonial Magic, like the one set out by Waite. You are practicing Freemasonry rites that were made public and available to all - by Aliester Crowley after he took over the O.T.O. Wasn't he a wicked man?

CdT

Twenty plus years ago I brought a Crowley magic book, I can't even remember which one it was, then this really dark shadow appeared and followed me everywhere, I got so freaked I left it on a wall in South London. I thought if I ignored it, it would go away, but it didn't. One night I am watching TV with my flat mate and she turned to me and said 'whats that black shadow that's been following you around', I was like 'OH MY GOD YOU CAN SEE IT TOO!', I explained about the book and said it just follows me, she said 'why don't you just tell it to go away', so I looked at it and said 'go away' it laughed at me then turned and left. I was like 'oh that was easy lol', as I turned back to watch the TV I knocked some books off to my right, a comic book fell open as I lent forward to pick it up, top left was a picture of a masked man with a black cape and the caption read 'Aleister Crowley the cleverest man in the world', It totally freaked me, I think i said HOLY ****! It took me twenty years to get the courage to read anything from him again LOL

Wickidest and Cleverest, I think he would like that

a reply to: Saurus

Hello Saurus, I have a library to read behind me lol, I am currently reading 8 books, but this one moved to the top. I will come back when I've finished it and pull out some good parts.

Its a real masterpiece

originally posted by: oxford

I will come back when I've finished it and pull out some good parts.

I'm looking forward to it!

a reply to: oxford

I think Crowley had a very good understanding of how Magick works, and if you really want to complement your understanding of Magick, he's a good read.

However, all Magick comes from the same source, which is neither good nor bad. It's only how you use it that makes it 'black' or 'white'. Crowley used it for selfish reasons, some downright nasty, but that doesn't make Magick itself bad.

originally posted by: oxford
Hey all

Came across this document a few days ago, its the best I've read, felt inspired to share the link here with you all ...

hermetic.com...

enjoy and much love

xxx

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