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WW3 or World War Four?

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posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 03:53 AM
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WW3 or World War Four?

In my opinion the cyclic "super-cycle" engine to produce world government is very simple: there are four cycles in about 100 years since WW1. Because the Cold War was enough of a "world war" for the United Nations to present a global peace proposal designation after it resolved in 1990, it is the third cycle.

People being taught to view "hot" war as the only determinant of counting a global war as a "world war" is why the "Cold War" falls off the actual 1-2-3 progression; it is as a Cold World War; WW3, imo.

Now people are expecting a World War 3, when in reality it is a World War 4 we should be expecting to complete the 1-2-3-4 cycles of world war to resolve into a fourth United Nations related presentation, like the three before it. The "Global War on Terror", a "world war" "on terror", is another unique deployment of "world war" that can have a "phase II" as a "phase II" of the Cold War can develop as well, in probably far "hotter" form simultaneously.

In other words a fourth world war already began global positioning in GWOT 1.0, 2001, and like the Cold War 1.0, most people are trained to ignore the possibility it is a prelude of the full fourth cycle that will run, and will resolve in UN centric world government, imo. "World war", in any form, is a formulaic cycle at global scale with an objective produced in incomplete form in all the world wars before it, three times so far: forming UN centered world government.


This is the simpler reality, imo, that has formed since WW1:


Four UN Cycles to World Government - 1919, 1945, 1990, Future


1. 1919 - League of Nations after WW1 cycle;


2. 1945 - United Nations after WW2 cycle;


3. 1990 - United Nations "New World Order" Initiative after "Cold" WW3 (Cold War) cycle;


4. Future - United Nations and World Government after 4th world tribulation/WW4 cycle to come.


Thus we are not at "the end of the world" even in another fully hot world war, WW4. We are at the beginning of the final cycle global "problem" to present full world government as the "solution", eventually people will accept the inevitable, imo.


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posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 04:08 AM
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in europe we are incredibly free, especially when compared to america, are we sure this is not a new world order as much as a "new nation order"?
i know many of you think america controls the world, but to that i can only say "lol"

but as for people accepting it passively, you are totally right, that already started years ago.
when things like the NSA went public, what was america's reaction to it, really?
Nothing more than posting tweets like "i bombed the test today...not in that sense silly NSA lolz wink wink"

any new nation order that might come, you have accepted it ages ago.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 04:22 AM
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As far as I'm concerned it is: Idiots at war 14,000+

The name matters not as it is only more of the same. Psychopaths start war for personal gain and idiots do their bidding over and over and over again. I mean it's actually a normal pastime for countless souls across the world to maim and murder each other......I mean seriously. I will die never fully understanding this reality.

How many people have died just this year from war? From Afghanistan to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine just to name a few.

Now a show of hands, how many here want to kill someone? (don't answer that, its rhetorical)

.....I didn't think so. So how did we get here?



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: 4444Winds

A Cold War whether new or old simply means we haven't gone full retard and blowed up all our Cities.

Now which is it?

A one world Government is formed out of the need to prevent major wars or are major wars brought about as an excuse for the creation of a one world Government?

I think and it's just my opinion that we as a species will eventually need to pull our heads out of our collective asses and come together on a planetary cooperative level.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: 4444Winds
Now people are expecting a World War 3,


I don't think most people are expecting WWIII. Some people on these Boards seem to want WWIII and are constantly cycling through the cause. Iran, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine. Yawn. When Ukraine quietens down, the the next catalyst will probably be...

Also, WWIII has not happened. WWIV will never happen because some people don't understand Roman numerals!

Regards



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 08:03 AM
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Watching the horrors and reading about them on news blogs, seems to me the arab nations don't seem to care what war they are in, just so long as they can bomb, shoot, and behead anyone with at attitude not the same as theirs, sunnies, shi'ites, funda'mental'ists , pick your own name.
So as regards a new world order, not in those parts, or China, or Russia, or India, one world government is hundreds or years away, as I see it.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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The first two world wars were only funded because the lenders (those that lend money to governments) thought there was more money to be made from the acquisition of war booty. After the mechanization of killing technology, the costs of reconstruction to the warring nations outweighed any gains in war booty. So they have moved their wars to other continents and countries.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 08:14 AM
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I've got better things to do with my time here than fight someone else's battles/wars.
If politicians want war, they should be first to sign up for frontline duty.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 08:23 AM
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then you should be expecting World War 5 as the Global War on Terror has lasted longer than that WWI and WW2 combined x2.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69
A Cold War whether new or old simply means we haven't gone full retard and blowed up all our Cities.

Now which is it?


aaaaa excuse me sir but......if you didn't have cold war......and then managed to instigate cold war.......you already went full retard



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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I firmly believe the "cold war" is predominantly an economic war started by the US when in took it's money system off the gold standard in 1971. It continues to be the dominant conflict in the world to this day. The US is the leader and the G7 nations are the associates.

When the G7 "central banks" are stopped from exporting their worthless fiat currency inflation to the rest of the world, this war will be over.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 02:39 AM
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I think the determinant of "world war" is not really the nature of the conflict as "hot" or "cold" or abbreviated timing, but global scope and geo-positioning goals; so imo the Cold War was WW3; it meets the greater criteria of a world war in perpetual "occupation". Now GWOT is WW4-prelude but also in unique form and now ended for rebranding, but it really has not ended, it expands global everyday a little more. The significance of GWOT is not just Iraq and Afghanistan positioning, it is the largest NATO expansion in human history and now has a number of regional satellite mini-NATOs like the Gulf Cooperation Council.

Thus imo GWOT was an approximate decade long global military positioning campaign beyond the audit or control of any national government. Imo it is a positioning for a final global war phase and that cycle ushers in all the final "solutions" to a plethora of "problems" over several years aided by global instability.

Now that the many "problems" are being well identified in national government negligence and monetary unsustainability it seems the final cycle potential is to usher in the "solution" which will require a global financial recovery package, and the bank-corporation complex is the richest entity on earth and will even now, be the only "solution" at that time as well.

Imo this is the cycle that is the most predictable of them all, and people's research and ideas on the Web is what allows this to be predicted because the same basic principles repeat, but with compounding power and wealth consolidations in the cycles, and the global corporate complex is where that wealth and power is aggregating reliably in boom or bust. Scientific and mathematical principles had to be consistently applied to form this kind of global consolidation into the corporate sphere of power, imo.

Thus Russian and Chinese corporate systems have fully assimilated after 1990 with the Anglo-American globalizing power center, and they are already "in on it" because profit and power motive, and natural monopolization goals are what unify the corporate system REGARDLESS of the national polygon they are associated with. Thus Russia, China and the EU also run similar smokescreens to aid social control as the US lie factory and are also all run by corporate super-powers who run their national governments because they literally own those governments.

Thus like WW1, or WW2 or Cold WW3, running a world war controlled ultimately by the military and finance corporations for a wold government objective, while letting their masses make one of thousands of guesses, aids the process for the super-corporate system which is actually the functional platform of actual world government, for which th UN was just its visible forum of existence and its perceived legal "blueprint" for international law, in time fully enforced by truly Global NATO as Russian and Chinese military systems will logically aggregate into that NATO complex, for their own profit and preservation, thus they take a part in world government, and all those incentives ensure their "union" will take place, imo, and the whole is world government.

Imo it is a multi-year cycle with a designed and programmed formulaic objective and the big global national powers are already "in on it" in their elite corporate sphere of global trans-national corporate authority to which national governments are just expendable and interchangeable puppet shows for the average Joes and uninformed national demographics.

The main risk come world government time is not the perceived "enemy" in some religious or national bloc "bogey man", but in their own people, and that is why all things are supporting martial law globally applied to control the masses and to guide them to the "solution" for "their own security" from "the enemy" which was just a common ploy in the production of world government.

America, EU, Russia and China will be more concerned purging "revolutionaries" in their own nations than each other, and that too will be played off in the WW4 cycle by sleight of hand of dual operations. In reality, imo, all those national regional power centers will be coming down on their own people for their own world government goal, and Russia and China are fully in tune in their elite corporate realm with the US/EU and the reality, not just the idea, of "world government" because they are required to deploy it.

The next ten years will not be a repeat of the last ten years, imo. What needed to be concealed to the majority has been hidden in plain sight and is getting more powerful everyday, in boom or bust.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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Peter Griffin: Oh, no, Lois. That's the beauty of World War 5. It's so intense it jumps right over World War 3 and 4.

Maybe Family Guy had it right again.....



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 02:14 AM
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Food for thought: "Globalization" of the digital world; the first priority.

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What makes the final cycle of global (military AND financial) war unique, imo, is the application of super-computing, super-network centralization and digital symbology of wealth valuation meaning they can orchestrate a financial, investment and corporate virtual reality at global scale in a way hitherto impossible. The globalization of super-computing networks is extreme in significance, and of course virtually uncommented on even in alternative news, it is a "conspiracy" that is hard to gain traction for, maybe because it is historic and verifiable reality it is going in this direction. (HFT and ICE are examples)

Computer applied algorithms in centralized banking and investment networks GLOBALLY CENTRALIZED allows the whole thing to be carefully controlled because monetary, investment and corporate entities are all now mostly digitally defined, literally. The "new world" exists first in a super computing model and actual system. Physical stocks and currency, etc, comprise a very tiny portion of actual wealth valuation symbology—most of that, 90%+, is ALL DIGITAL. Think about it. It is now super-symbolic and it is all digitally defined on super-computers whose purpose is control and manipulation of data and information.

CGI application in movies is what made its special fx and virtual reality possible, and that same principle is now POSSIBLE in all systems being networked into central computer control globally. The so-called "end of the world" can be computer run to not actually end, but control the transition. The final cycle, imo, will be mostly digital in control and final globalization goal.

With nano scale satellite processing and "light" scale networking the next decade ensures the geometric advancement in power and control ability will also be beyond human comprehension, the whole thing requires this level of computing to manage, and it opens the door to true digital globalization of all power networks, including military precise weapons systems, and that globalization of the global computing hub and network system is what is also requiring completion to empower true world government whose cerebral center will be fully digital. "world government" will be one darn big computing system at heart!

The spatial "polygons" and maps of physical nations are just an illusion now, the infrastructure of past millennium urban systems is disposable and as interchangeable as the nations they exist in, they were just the "snake skin" to shed in controlled manner for the real GLOBAL MODEL serpentry that is mostly digital giving international legal definition, violence application control and valuation definition to all these systems. That is the truth, not opinion and not "conspiracy", the "real world" is even now DIGITAL definitions, LITERALLY! LOL All it needs to do is truly, fully, totally, centralize into this system already there in framework.

Imo the final global currency transition to a core global monetary system will be highly controlled and not open to random chaos but to the nearly precise level it can be mathematically (and computer) controlled to give such a false perception of a reality that is actually highly scipted by super-computing design applied to this very real global model of a "new world". It is not just the US Dollar that must "fade out" gracefully, in spite of various events, imo. All global currency must exit stage left, and it will be precisely controlled, because it is already precisely controlled. In fact it is more important to control financial "reality" by virtual reality than ANYTHING else on earth, because it is the main system of control and consolidation and day to day system function.

The world government core itself is one big super-computing network veneered with "UN" like branded imagery when in reality computers will control the main power systems and that kind of computing is what will make global scale management in the world government branding actually possible. Thus imo the digital advancement is what world government had been waiting patiently for and the "crash" scenario was just diversion of real wealth to that more important system completion which includes a massive nucleus of massive computers and satellites, and they hope it will be a core nano-complex by the time the "reboot" is ready to run.

Imo in the coming decade they will have the nano-platform capable of running their biggest most intensive systems and the whole of a Google and YouTube combined servers will fit in a literal chicken egg sized CPU in these satellite placed cerebrums. They will have a whole chicken egg farm up there in time!

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 02:15 AM
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The simplifications and limited purges that come with the implosion of the nation-state model will ease the computational burdens speeding up the application of that system. They dump the system burdens, but wire the model, and run that as a virtual reality in a new "operating system" and global model, so it will actually be computationally and strategically possible to do this at global scale hubbing all the logisitics of the current global system in a far more integrated and accelerated system.

They do it like they set it up: by recovery, AND by precise destructions working in tangent but finally under a uni-polar authority with a global objective far advanced past most nation-state thinkers of our time, and within two-to-three generations it would be as if that was the way it always was. Even history would be completely re-written at global scale, EVERYTHING on earth would be fit to affirm the "new world" model, and once an entire generation is born into that teaching, it would take as fully as did the nation-state myths now running the world, but of course in one global myth that would be reality if all goes well.

Imo it will go well to at least full world government and system run 1.0. Problems are sure to arise later, human error is the fly in the ointment, other universal intelligence is also a factor, such as God. I think this final cycle is a first cycle "enema" of the nation-state system but will not sacrifice more than 10% of global population and systems, and even at that number global functional control can be maintained to push through world government as the "solution" to what will become a perceived global "problem".

The real controlling system will actually be invisible massive digital routines to ensure the global financial system transitions properly to maintain core function, and at the same time putting nation-state systems into controlled dysfunctions. Military power just controls any outbreak of possible core function disruption and the US, EU, Russia and China top system globalizing authorities will all be working together for that core function to final world government transformation phase. Everyone else will have to follow that global lead into conglomerated world government.

Unique WW4 and that fourth cycle will resolve into global "world peace" by emerging world government definition of uni-polar finance/wealth, military and super-governmental control. Every confusion, doomsday scenario and uncertainty aids world government formation, so that disinformation will be maintained. As the cycle runs they will get more and more openly vocal wordl government is coming, and by the time it is presented it will be mostly accepted globally; it always was a good idea as far as many people will be concerned: shoot, what took so long? The "nation-state" is what delayed the process, yet aids it and is required for full global assimilation.

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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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WW3 will be fought with guns and nuclears. WW4 will be fought with sticks and rocks.



posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 10:11 PM
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Well all I know 4444Winds is that whichever World War people decide to name it. The Normal Regular Guy Type Person will be worse off because of it. The only winners ever are the Gypsy Thieves who call themselves Bankers. We've now been through this cycle of theirs a few times and we always seem to be worse off, whatever The War is called.

A Wise Man Once Said:
The Same Thing Happens Once, That's A Happenstance.
The Same Thing Happens Twice, That's A Coincidence.
The Same Thing Happens Three Times, That's An Enemy Action. (Aurum Goldfinger).

Peace
Arjunanda.
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posted on Nov, 22 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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We have really had dozens of World Wars. They began with the European colonization of most of the World and ended once the colonization had ended. The prospect of a World War is null and void. There no two sides that control most of the Planet. Now, most of the World is all in one camp, and nobody beyong the US has any real global reach. Regional conflicts are the best your going to get for anytime in the near future.



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: arjunanda
Well all I know 4444Winds is that whichever World War people decide to name it. The Normal Regular Guy Type Person will be worse off because of it. The only winners ever are the Gypsy Thieves who call themselves Bankers. We've now been through this cycle of theirs a few times and we always seem to be worse off, whatever The War is called.

A Wise Man Once Said:
The Same Thing Happens Once, That's A Happenstance.
The Same Thing Happens Twice, That's A Coincidence.
The Same Thing Happens Three Times, That's An Enemy Action. (Aurum Goldfinger).

Peace
Arjunanda.
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Interesting quote and principle thanks.

Same Thing Happens Four Times, That's World Government on the way, lol

Yes, the banking system is one of the core digital globalizations whose market, investment and monetary systems are well over 90% digital. Even paper fiat currency is but 5% or so of global currency in the US Dollar. The InterContinentalExchange is an example of centralized market computing networking. DTCC is an example of the digitization of investment.

What that means imo is the "Gypsy Thieves" are running a virtual reality model and actual system whose "digits" are subject to "special FX", meaning the whole system can be controlled by applied fiction and alteration globally by central computing algorithms, functions and routines applied in their proprietary global network.

In this way the weak periphery individual and group corporate entities can be stressed and absorbed, but the power consolidating core will run reliably to continue to fuel itself in all ways to global consolidation of wealth and power consolidation and its global legal control and definition center: eventually full world government is empowered by that corporate and computer network.

It just takes time to run that final fourth cycle.

In reality, imo, the more effective "world war" is in the financial sector at it is already "won" in the model merely being applied for real in the final cycle. Most of nation-state capitulation to world government sole-sovereignty will be by debt manipulations and economic enforced dependency, imo. The designers of the global recovery system are the same designers of the current financial con.

Any global intrigues of politics, war and religious division merely aid smokescreening the simpler engine running to the world government goal. The con of fiat currency just took too long to be openly realized, so it is too late to extricate that system that is the core empowerment of this whole process: "money" which is really fiat currency printed from thin air to secure actual wealth in physical assets of others by design of default and constant slavery to debt, taxes and profits.

The central bankers ahve risked only paper, and most of that merely digital digits. That is the brilliant con the national government helped them deploy, and by that they have "sold" their sovereignty to a global corporate banker complex. It just has to run the course to be made globally official, and at that time still most of the world will not know how the scam was run through fiat currency and debt designs.

Now the globe is dependent on the con, now all "valuation" many people actually accept and require in their own lives is banker designed motifs of "career" and "savings" and "net worth" virtually indistinguishable from "self worth". Imo people have mostly unknowingly allowed bankers to sell themselves to themselves and their own standard of "worth" as a "human being" denominated in figures and magnitudes of the fiat currency in vogue in their time.

How long could such a fiction actually last we may wonder, lol. Yet its really not so funny.
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posted on Dec, 6 2014 @ 10:47 PM
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Interesting points, 44, star!

You're right about how important banking and digitization are in
regards to WW3, which we are in the midst of at this time in history.
"Economic Anarchy" is what I would call it.

These IS terrorists are being funded by someone; so there are bankers
to blame, partially. I also think computer hacking will have alot to do
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