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probe to the moon........why?

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posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sparky31

And what good does a mission that stayed on the moon for a total of a couple of days when you're talking about a mission that has a minimum duration of six months? Apollo 17 had a total of 75 hours on the surface. That's going to give you great data for that THREE DAYS. That's not going to tell you what kind of exposures you're looking at over a week, or a month, or a year. Which is what you need to stay there.

What good does being on the surface, nowhere near the most likely landing areas for a long term colony, do for helping to plan for a colony, or even a science base that is there for months at a time? The Apollo missions were nowhere near the South Pole, which is the most likely place for a base to stay, as there is ice there, which would give them water for various things in the base.

Yes, we've been there, but again, the manned missions wouldn't give you enough data that is needed for a long term stay on the moon.
well as i said what they done in days is probably more than a probe could do in months or even years,they are spending billions of pounds to send things out into solar system which i don,t have a problem with except that with technology today we could have men on the moon doing studies all over it but their not,why not?we could have them up there long enough in this day and age.




posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: sparky31

And again, yes you learn more by being there. But a probe that monitors radiation around the moon for months is going to do a lot more than any manned mission lasting days is going to do. The same with landing areas, and ice sources, and a lot of other really important details vital to a long term stay. Probes are vital to developing the technology that is needed to stay there, as well as finding where they're going to stay.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: southbeach

Yes they print money, but they have to occasionally pretend to listen to the people. And the people have repeatedly said they didn't want to spend money on space, because we have problems on earth to deal with. Not to mention the minor fact that the technology for a long term stay doesn't currently exist, and even today would take a decade or more to develop.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: sparky31

And again, yes you learn more by being there. But a probe that monitors radiation around the moon for months is going to do a lot more than any manned mission lasting days is going to do. The same with landing areas, and ice sources, and a lot of other really important details vital to a long term stay. Probes are vital to developing the technology that is needed to stay there, as well as finding where they're going to stay.
surely they know all that already,its been over 30 years since man stepped on the moon so i,m guessing they already figured most of that out even years before they sent anyone up there or it was sending their people up on a suicide mission.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: sparky31

No, they don't know everything about the moon that there is to know.

Just like they don't know everything about the Earth that there is to know. And we're walking around on it.

Science works by asking questions. Even when we get answers, it will always cause even more questions to be asked.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: sparky31

Of course they don't know it all. They didn't have to know what kind of radiation levels they were going to see after six months. Why on earth would they? They were going to be there three DAYS.

There was also no high resolution camera setup like we have now, that gives incredibly detailed photos and video of areas.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I respect your opinion but i find it a little naive or rather a bit too conservative for a conspiracy website.
You do know that technology we see today is around 30 years old so what are you basing your statements on about a long term stay on the Moon?
Man was last on the Moon many decades ago and if you look at other technologies such as computers they are exponential in terms of advancement so what happened to the Moon projects?
They declined and stagnated.
But that's for the public.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:03 PM
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probe to the moon........why?


UK 'to lead moon landing' funded by public contributions
A British-led consortium has outlined its plans to land a robotic probe on the Moon in 10 years' time.
Lunar Mission One
Its aim is to raise £500m for the project from donations by the public


I guess you wont be shystered into donatiing too "Lunar Mission One",, well theres always Mars One , or you could start your own "One"



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: southbeach

Of course it did. Because there wasn't a reason for it not to. Why develop technology that is going to let you live on the moon, if you're not going to go to the moon? That's like developing an interstellar craft for low earth orbit.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: steaming

You mean the Van Allen Belt that Van Allen himself said it was possible to get through?


The Russians have never been through the Earth Radiation Belts and they have stayed well below that altitude for nearly 50 years.

The OP maintains that

to do what? more than the people that were already there? do not see the point if you ask me unless no one was there in first place lol


Were you aware and are you in favor of Keep Out Zones on the moon that were proposed by NASA administrator Charles Bolden? Do you support of the Arizona State University cooperative agreement with NASA to digitally remove all the cross-hairs from Apollo image catalogues?



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:13 PM
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Were you aware and are you in favor of Keep Out Zones on the moon that were proposed by NASA administrator Charles Bolden?
Sure. Preserving historical sites has a long tradition. Can't really put any teeth into those recommendations though.


Do you support of the Arizona State University cooperative agreement with NASA to digitally remove all the cross-hairs from Apollo image catalogues?
They aren't removing Reseau marks from the Apollo image catalogs. They are providing images without the Reseau marks. Those with the marks are still available for public use. Here ya' go. Knock yourself out. All the Reseau marks anyone could ask for.
www.hq.nasa.gov...

Happy?



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posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

It's not about living on the Moon it's about being denied the chance to expand out into the stars as God and the Universe intended.
Moon Base Alpha was the first stop..and then we publicly stopped suddenly.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

So? What does that prove, other than they haven't had a reason, or a rocket to take them that far?

As for the "keep out zones" come on, quit with the hyperbole. They're requests to other governments, for future missions, for tiny areas around the Apollo landing sites, measured in meters. Quit trying to make it out that they're somehow able to make entire swaths of the moon no landing zones.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: southbeach
You mean that stupid TV show, Space 1999, or the video game?


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posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: southbeach

It was GOING to be the first stop. And the technology to live on the moon is necessary to go out into the stars. That technology hasn't, and doesn't exist, and won't for years.

Go look at the reactions even during Apollo, when people were excited about going to the moon. By Apollo 13, the astronauts videos weren't even broadcast on the news anymore, because ratings had dropped so low for every part of the mission. It was so routine that people were bored, and shortly after even that mission, people were starting to question why we were even going into space in the first place.

Even with the shuttles, people were barely paying attention after the third or fourth launch. It got to where you couldn't even see coverage of the launch on the news itself.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:23 PM
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The money this would cost is a drop in the ocean of public finances, and it would be worth it. The £500m doesn't just buy a probe to the moon, it buys engineering and science training and skills that can be sold on to other projects. It's jobs and education as well as science and data. It's not just jobs in high end tech, it's jobs in construction and infrastructure.

Space money is money well spent.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

July 16th 1969, the day Apollo took off said to be carrying 3 Male astronauts. Our late son was born that day, and we gave him a middle name - 'Michael' after the astronaut who dod not land but remained in orbit. I spoke to NASA on phone that night and at the time believed everything I heard. Yep, Ruskies were told not to 'Trespass', and instead sent up what looked like 2 old tin baths soldered together. As years drifted I have read, attended lectures and listened to many...........The whole argument keeps on saying, "To fly Humans through the Van Allen Belt would require a Craft that had 3 foot wide walls made of Lead. IF you were the first man to step on the Moon you would return home the greates Global tic-tac welcome possible.........N.Armstrong, remained quiet and went back to being a Teacher........Science are only just starting to study Moss, and cannot search the deepest Oceanic points, but eh, who am I lets, Go to the Moodn again. This time the Bluff Video would be more sort of realistic....Have a nice day now.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:30 PM
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posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: Phage
They are providing images without the Reseau marks.


for what purpose, why waste money on it, cant people photoshop them out themselves... what do you have against the French



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:33 PM
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Now there's a scary thought.

The first human colony on the moon built and owned by the Federal Reserve...



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