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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: TechUnique
So you have more faith in science than God when it comes to curing physical ailments. A man of science is more effective than an all loving all powerful God.
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: CirqueDeTruth
Sometimes I can be too harsh with the way I talk, even if it is not my intention.
However in this thread I should have acted better. It was my intention to be antagonistic and it wasn't done in any constructive way.
To the OP: I apologize for the brash way I responded to you in this thread. Whatever my opinions may be in regards to you or your beliefs it was not right for me to just jump on you in the manner that I did. It certainly isn't conducive to a constructive thread.
originally posted by: CirqueDeTruth
a reply to: Noinden
I'm pagan too, but I don't see how that pertains to what is being discussed here.
As to the OP's motivations as to why he created the thread. I'd dare to suspect, the atheism vs. creationism debate has him conflicted. Instead of pouncing on him for daring to create threads that illustrate that fact, I'll read his opening post and civilly respond. I shall assume that the debate in question, he's brought forth... is an important discussion he wishes to have. Rather than assume he's trolling and attacking atheists personally. The post wasn't personal toward anyone, and that his state of mind personally offends anyone, is a reflection on them - NOT the OP. Maybe something in the discussion will give him food for thought that will result in growth. A change in the way he perceives Atheists and Atheism.
However I don't see growth, forthcoming from a thread, where the majority of posters are set against him - simply because he's a Christian Creationist who is wrestling with the idea of Atheism. Let the OP work it out, with thoughtful debate that challenges his own preset bias. That's how we all over come our own hypocrisies, break down walls, and create a common ground where change can flourish.
I also tend to champion the underdog in any fight. It's in my nature.
"Belief" does not prove anything. Belief is an act of faith. Science however is following evidence, reproducible and verifiable evidence. QED "belief" should never be applied to science. On top of this, science should never be applied to faith. They deal in different things. As a scientist and a spiritual person in a non abrahamic faith, I have no problem with either of those ideas.