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Does our perception help determine reality?

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posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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This morning, I went to fix me some Captain Crunch



Memory of your perceptions is your reality.




posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Please don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever contacted a mental health specialist? You may very well suffer from schizophrenic episodes.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: AllIsOne

LOL, you sound like a nut.

So a person is schizophrenic because they're talking about coincidences that happen to people all the time.

You sound kind of stupid for lack of a better word.

Back to the topic. Like I said this happens all the time. We label these things synchronicity and coincidence. We just explain these things away.

My point is, a small scale event could interact with a parallel universe like opening or not opening a bottle of pop and large scale events cause huge ripples in time like Michael Jackson's death so that event couldn't interact with a reality where he didn't die.

I think these things can eventually be proven especially after Scientist just recently came out with a theory of interacting universes. It then just comes down to information.

So no, you don't have to be schizophrenic to think about these things. You just need to actually think for yourself and use a little common sense.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic


My point is, a small scale event could interact with a parallel universe like opening or not opening a bottle of pop

So you think its less likely you are mistaken during these "small scale events"? Its pretty well documented that people make these kinds of errors. Maybe you should set up cams everywhere and try and catch an event.



and large scale events cause huge ripples in time like Michael Jackson's death so that event couldn't interact with a reality where he didn't die.

can you elaborate? Why would this be a large scale event? Who determined this?



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

What??? You said:


So you think its less likely you are mistaken during these "small scale events"? Its pretty well documented that people make these kinds of errors. Maybe you should set up cams everywhere and try and catch an event.


If you would have read my post you would have read this:

Some of these things are coincidences or people being mistaken but I don't think that's the case everytime.

So I never said it's less likely people are mistaken during these events. Of course people are mistaken and it's just a coincidence in some of these cases. If you would have read my OP before you responded, you would have answered your question.

You then said:

can you elaborate? Why would this be a large scale event? Who determined this?

First it's just common sense and secondly, well, it's just common sense.

If there's interaction between parallel universes it's easier for small scale events to interact where information isn't spread across the population vs. large scale events like Michael Jacksons or Princess Diana's death.

Whether or not a bottle of pop is closed or open in my fridge doesn't get breaking news on CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

So I never said it's less likely people are mistaken during these events. Of course people are mistaken and it's just a coincidence in some of these cases. If you would have read my OP before you responded, you would have answered your question.

I read your OP with great interest. I am not sure what is making you defensive. I was asking about you specifically. The reason I am asking is because I am curious how to distinguish between a mistake and a real "event". I personally have had many anomalous events throughout my life and have had many "glimpses" into what can only be described as an alternate reality. I have even experienced a flood of memories of this other reality which occurred during a migraine.


First it's just common sense and secondly, well, it's just common sense.

If there's interaction between parallel universes it's easier for small scale events to interact where information isn't spread across the population vs. large scale events like Michael Jacksons or Princess Diana's death

Whether or not a bottle of pop is closed or open in my fridge doesn't get breaking news on CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS.

So "interactions between parallel universes" is determined by whether or not it makes it on CNN? Interactions between these universes occur regardless of if its on the news or not.



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 09:37 PM
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PERCEPTION




IS



EVERYTHING !



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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originally posted by: Kappo
a reply to: Eunuchorn

I have definitely read that "Disco Bob" story not too long ago, maybe this guy deleted his other topic?


Post about "Disco Bob" by the OP

Post about "Disco Bob" by SOMEONE ELSE

Weird, huh?



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: AgentShillington
...Our perceptions are merely how we subjectively interpret objective permanence. No matter how many times you say the moon is made of green cheese, even if you believe it to be, it will never be made of green cheese.

- --- How do you know this?
You can only play the odds of 'your experience'...and your experience says it won't/can't happen...
That may be correct...
Something that might be worth considering, however
- Most people with such experiences do not discard the mundane - first.
- Most people with such experiences tend to attempt to answer 'the mystery' with the mundane...first.
That is, usually - until synchronicities (or - to be fair - perceived synchronicities) raise questions that open doors previously unknown... (frightening)
...Delusional kinda frightening.
That touches the extreme...
Something less extreme is - entertaining the 'fantasy'...'til it has to become real... (the Green Cheese & Eggs Moon)

If we knew that this one answer you have proffered...were undeniably, inexorably and inexplicably 'TRUE'...we would have a starting/reference point from which to work.
I don't think, though, that we are all convinced of this answer enough to hitch our wagons, thereto...and abandon all versions of truth we might have considered.
And, while, most of the time, we want to accept that there is some common, universal truth...we, each and all, have difficulty interacting without agreeing on some common set/s of values and facts and interpretations...
But -- therein lies the problem... We do not agree - very well - with one another and each other.
We certainly do not agree with bullies that say - "I know and if you don't agree with me, I will beat you up!"




posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 11:19 PM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
...For instance, when I'm shooting pool. When I'm focused my shots play out exactly the way I saw them in my mind. Even when I miss, I can pinpoint a brief moment in my mind where I saw the ball hitting the wrong spot, or putting the wrong english on the cue, or hitting too hard, or whatever. I stand up and say to myself, "Why did I do that?", but I always know exactly what I did wrong. I saw it in my mind before I hit the shot. I'd be a lot better player if I had the patience to wait until I was solely focused on making the shot properly.

I loved your entire post - btw!
This, though...touches at least a part of the heart of the issue (for me, anyway)... "Focus"
When one is 'flowing', they are focused on the moment and movement...and, with no apparent effort - achieve what are otherwise considered 'amazing feats'.

It's as if Stan Lee's super-humans...have attained some degree of mastering this 'focus'...on, at least, one 'movement'.

Watching basketballers and footballers and otherballers...get in the groove...is often just as super-human (until it has been done, once --- then, it becomes a benchmark for all further endeavors).

"...We have a 477+ IQ, this year... Broke the thermometer!
Next year, we have the promise of a 478..."



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: LukeDAP

originally posted by: Kappo
a reply to: Eunuchorn

I have definitely read that "Disco Bob" story not too long ago, maybe this guy deleted his other topic?


Post about "Disco Bob" by the OP

Post about "Disco Bob" by SOMEONE ELSE

Weird, huh?

That is strange. I wonder if Disco Bob really is alive. Its like people can die but not really.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 12:00 AM
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From what I believe and have experienced, our perceptions dont necessarily determine our reality. We can perceive one thing constantly and continue to get same results based on the continuity of our present state going into the next. I say that to say this... We do influence our reality much the same way a cook influences a meal he creates. For example, think of life as the process of chicken cooking... Regardless of what you put in the chicken, your still going to have chicken at the end of the day once its done cooking. Now our influential potential comes in the same way it would when your cooking. Each person seasons food differently. Same way with life, your perception is basically your seasoning atop what is already occuring consistently in our reality. Existence, lets call it the main dish... It will do and be as it is, we have no control over it as far as we know, but we can add "seasoning" as our perception changing the way it "tastes"(acts). Some people are better "cooks" than others and can make anything taste like chicken... Same with life, if you are good at it, knowing what seasonings to add during specific stages, you can make a dull, unsuccessful, depressing life (un cooked, un-seasoned chicken) into a master pieice, a gourmet dish of Chicken Alfredo with garlic bread and a fine glass of wine.

When it all boils down to it, life is a Chicken cooking. How would you like yours?



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 12:09 AM
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IMO it does. There is however a definitive reality like, the grass is green, the sky is blue ect...things that are tangible and accepted, agreed upon by everyone.

I also think that what a person believes to be right and wrong can alter or vary one person's personal reality or perspective from another.

Our views and perceptions are based on what we believe or think to be real, whether it is or not. Misinformation and propaganda distort reality, and for those whom fall under its spell believe a lie and live in a reality based upon it.

So yes, how we perceive things is based upon information that's truthful which is reality, and misinformation that distorts reality.

I guess it depends on what you believe.


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posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 02:10 AM
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The brain is lazy, always trying to get away with the least effort possible. This is because thinking is expensive, it uses a lot of energy. Unfortunately, this means nearly all cognitive processes are short circuited in some way. Which leads to oddities such as these:

Answer each question quickly:

1) Say "silk" five times. Now, spell "silk." What do cows drink?
2) What do you put in a toaster?
3) There are three apples on the counter, and you take away two. How many do you have?

The answers are water, bread, and two. If you're not thinking too hard, you will probably answer, milk, toast, and one. We react to the patterns we expect to encounter rather than spend the extra energy identifying the pattern that is there. Most of the time this short-circuiting works to our advantage. We get "good enough" results, with only a fraction of the cost in thinking power.

One of the ways this short circuiting manifests is in confirmation bias. It is usually described as counting the hits and ignoring the misses. This is so prevalent in cases of suspected paranormal activity for one simple reason. You remember things that stand out. You don't keep track of the thousands of times you find your breakfast bowl exactly where you expected it to be. Now there are any number of things that can cause the weird episodes that stand out. My point is they will be hugely disproportionally represented in your memory. Chances are you wont remember these episodes past the point when you discover the explanation, whatever it may be.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Daedal

You said:

IMO it does. There is however a definitive reality like, the grass is green, the sky is blue ect...things that are tangible and accepted, agreed upon by everyone.

How do you know this is a definite reality beyond your perception of it? Dr. Robert Lanza recently talked about this.


Life and consciousness are central to this new view of being, reality and the cosmos. Although the current scientific paradigm is based on the belief that the world has an objective observer-independent existence, real experiments suggest just the opposite. We think life is just the activity of atoms and particles, which spin around for a while and then dissipate into nothingness. But if we add life to the equation, we can explain some of the major puzzles of modern science, including the uncertainty principle, entanglement, and the fine-tuning of the laws that shape the universe.

Importantly, this has a direct bearing on the question of whether humans and other living creatures have souls. As Kant pointed out over 200 years ago, everything we experience — including all the colors, sensations and objects we perceive — are nothing but representations in our mind. Space and time are simply the mind’s tools for putting it all together. Now, to the amusement of idealists, scientists are beginning dimly to recognize that those rules make existence itself possible. Indeed, the experiments above suggest that objects only exist with real properties if they are observed. The results not only defy our classical intuition, but suggest that a part of the mind — the soul — is immortal and exists outside of space and time.


www.robertlanza.com...

Before Lanza is labeled a kook because he thinks differently, here's more on Lanza.


Dr. Robert Lanza selected for the 2014 TIME 100 list of the hundred most influential people in the world, along with Pope Francis, Robert Redford, and other artists, pioneers, leaders, titans and icons.

Robert Lanza, M. D. is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is currently Chief Scientific Officer at Advanced Cell Technology, and Adjunct Professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine. He has hundreds of publications and inventions, and over 30 scientific books: among them, “Principles of Tissue Engineering,” which is recognized as the definitive reference in the field. Others include One World: The Health & Survival of the Human Species in the 21st Century (Foreword by former President and Nobel laureate Jimmy Carter), and the “Handbook of Stem Cells” and “Essentials of Stem Cell Biology,” which are considered the definitive references in stem cell research.


Lanza's view is very interesting especially in light of quantum biology. He's simply saying that the world "out there" is a construct of the mind which comes from our biology whether it's quantum or classical.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: neoholographic

This is ancient knowledge that is only now surfacing.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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I can relate with the general angst of the OP.
I have been documenting (on occasion) for the last # of years, as well.
[ From Journal Entry – Nov 30, 20XX ]

I do not know that the following [should] be included…but want to tell of it…in case I have not…
It has to do with my memory…
I…have written of the tree in my parents' front yard…But…will tell it here, anyway…to, hopefully, tie-in to my "odd" memory…

A short time into staying with my parents…I began to rake the leaves from the front lawn… There were many (leaves)…
About 10 feet from the southwest corner of their house was a young tree…with an aluminum sleeve about its trunk…
It [stood] in a "circle" that had been cleared at one time…outlined in brick…
While raking the leaves, I had to take this tree into account…so as not to hit it on the back stroke of the rake.
I had to take this tree's position into account on all sides as I raked around…
A month or more passed…with me spending goodly amounts of time in the front yard…raking, gathering trash, etc…and I do not recall seeing…or having to account for that tree…again…until one night…when the neighbors across the street had removed their Christmas decorations from the front entry…and their outdoor light came on…and… … …the flash of light…off the aluminum sleeve…stunned me…almost to a point of hysteria (or glee)…
In my mind…that tree had not been "in attendance" since about the first time I encountered it… Of course, it was not something I could ask anyone-else about ("Do you remember that tree not being there, yesterday…or the day before…or the one before that… …?")… So…when I did speak of it…a while later…I labeled it "insanity"…

But…there is another "memory"…that has caused me problems for most of a year, now…
When I was 2-3…we lived in Colorado Springs…
Of course I don't remember a lot of the daily drama that accompanied that window…but do recall that…years later…when we would "look" at the family photos (whether they be those taken with my father's 16MM, or still-photos)…there were fewer photos of "something"…that always had to be commented on…and the comment was "those photos were lost in the fire"…and I believed that story to have been expanded at one point…to suggest that the fire had begun in the attic…
In conversation with my parents [in recent years], I asked of this incident ("the fire")…
Neither of them remembered it…
Only the fire that destroyed the house we lived in, while I finished high school…
I asked my sister…who said she recalled nothing of it…and recalled no stories about it…
Of course…she believed me to have fallen from my rocker…anyway…so…
…Later…I asked my brother…who knew nothing of it…
Yet…the memory of this "lack" of a particular group of photos…and the continued references to the "reason for that lack"…is such a solid piece of my "life's memory"…


I don’t think I’m any closer to explaining it than when I wrote of it.

'You ever wake out of a daze (?) with your mind acting in mirror-mode …where the left side thinks it’s the right and the right the rear and…up down in out…?

Was that just crazyville, or…were you there?

For me, the more enigmatic side of this question, is when other people…act, say and do things entirely out of character/scheme…
And later – seem not to recall said acts, comments and/or deeds.



posted on Nov, 20 2014 @ 04:11 PM
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You said:

How do you know this is a definite reality beyond your perception of it? Dr. Robert Lanza recently talked about this

I don't know. I only assume it is for two reasons.

1. Most would believe that the color blue is blue and a cat is a cat as a dog a dog.

I guess I maybe taking for granted what is commonly accepted by most as being absolute.

2. It's physical. I can touch it, see it, feel it, hear it, ect...

But let me inform you, l'm not well versed on this topic. I was just adding my thoughts to the conversation.

Having said that, l think it's possible that reality is constant, never changing only expanding. We all live in a physical reality or world. However, our or my reality can vary based on the human condition and the wholeness of the body and minds ability to perceive reality through physical barriers.

But, l think it's deeper than that.

Physical limitations can change ones perception of reality, as well can mental, IMO. But through practice and meditation, l would presume that even though some are more physically challenged than others, boundaries and barriers can be overcome, and connectedness to existence or reality can be perceived on a different scale.

I think the term definitive belongs in a tangible world, outside of that, l don't know.


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