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Christians are being persecuted worldwide!, Burning, Beheading and Crucifixion.

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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: tavi45

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: TechUnique

Eh, I think it's just an inevitable reaction to Western Christian nations slaughtering Muslims and calling them evil.

Pope Francis is the best pope in ages. He's pushing the ideas of love, tolerance, and charity. Last I checked that's kind of Jesus' whole deal.


We are not 'Christian nations'.

Do you believe Jesus Christ died for our sins and was resurrected so that we can be close to god? A true Christian believes in the validity of Christ. A true christian believes that Jesus was and is the TRUE SON OF GOD.

Pope Francis is saying this is a lie so by definition is behaving in accordance to how the Anti Christ is supposed to behave. Further on your point, the majority of our leaders and people are NOT true Christians therefore you cannot blame this on Christian nations slaughtering Muslims.

It was the catholic church that inflicted the majority of the bloodshed. The protestants were true and just. They knew the real message of the bible that Christ is the one true way to god. That is why they revolted against the catholic church because they were trying to suppress this truth by translating the bible into Latin so peasants couldn't read it.

The pope is trying to unify all world religions into one. This is sacrilege as there is only one true religion and the rest are Babylonian knock offs.


Jesus Christ is the only one true way to God.

We are living in times akin to the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. We have never been further apart from God.

Obama parades himself as a hardcore liberal. The terms 'socialist' and 'libertarian' has been perverted to not represent true freedom anymore. The devil masquerades through churches. True Christians aren't pedophiles. The catholic church houses criminals.

Don't bunch Christians together with fake Christians who think homosexuality isn't a sin. These are the same types of 'Christians' who would bow down to Islam as to not be persecuted. This isn't true Christianity. Homosexuality is a sin and I don't hate sinners in the slightest but I don't openly endorse or encourage homosexuality like the media, hollywood and the elite do.

Churches are being forced to marry gay couples or be jailed. That is beyond comprehension. Can you imagine if a Christian tried to force a private gay club to let them be a member? It would be a completely different story.

Islam and homosexuality have both been mollycoddled and allowed to proliferate.. The devil hides behind all false religions. This is why beheading is rampant at the hands of Islamist extremists. Furthermore, this is why Christians are targeted specifically, because they are the direct enemies of Satan.


All I heard was "blah blah blah TRUE CHRISTIANITY IS ABOUT HATRED AND INTOLERANCE blah blah blah KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS, GAYS, AND ATHEISTS blah blah blah JUDGEMENT DAY APPROACHES blah blah blah".

Did I miss anything?


Please tell me how exactly was I preaching a message about intolerance. Is beheading someone cos of their faith intolerance? Or is that acceptable as long as they are Christian?

Oh because Christians hate gays so much. Like I said. True Christians would NEVER persecute someone because of their sin. Whether you like it or not, homosexuality is a sin. God created man for woman not woman for woman or man for man. Satan tries to destroy everything god does or mimic it in a perverted way.


Dude you are persecuting gay people by saying it's a sin. A true Christian would keep their mouth shut and let people live their lives. I guess you haven't read the bible?

Judge not lest ye be judged. Or maybe, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Sorry, I know true Christians. You are not one of them.




posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
What makes Christianity the One "True" religion?

The idol worship of a prophet?
The trinity despite the Ten Commandments clealy stating their is 1 God?
The sacrificial bloodlust to eat and drink your God?
Being safe by scapegoating your God?


The infallible word of God written by men commanded and inspired by the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the embodiment of the Holy spirit. That was the start of the trinity of the father, the son and the holy spirit. That was the time we got another chance to be close to God.

Satan is trying to ruin that chance. This is why Christianity has been stamped out almost entirely and why evolution although entirely fraudulent as a taught science, is allowed to proliferate. Further if you look with an open mind you can see that Darwinists by nature tend to attack Christians.

Evolution theory is a work of Satan. It has no real grounding in valid science and yet it is allowed to proliferate despite multiple cases of fraud of cover up. Evolution theory goes entirely against the truth. We were created by God and it is an insult to God to claim otherwise. You are a perfect creation. Look at how your amazing super computer brain is reading this mass of symbols and pondering it in your head behind your high tech computer in your comfortable house in your street.

Evolution theory and The big bang theory, far from answering the major wonders of life, just lead to more and more questions. Creationism is the only thing that makes sense. It is the only think that is logical.

I bet you just spluttered your coffee out at that preposterous and utterly ridiculous statement but believe me, there are Scientists who are much smarter than you and I who are born again Christians.


But it is not infallible. The Council of Nicea, a group of men, deleted some books and chose which to include in the canon. Countless original teachings and books were burned. There are translation problems. There are contradictions.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: TechUnique

Eh, I think it's just an inevitable reaction to Western Christian nations slaughtering Muslims and calling them evil.

Pope Francis is the best pope in ages. He's pushing the ideas of love, tolerance, and charity. Last I checked that's kind of Jesus' whole deal.


I agree with you. Much of this stuff might be reactions to Christian proselytizing and also so-called "Christian nations" and citizens colonizing, invading, bombing Muslim countries.

The West keeps on stomping on the Muslim countries. It's true. Maybe they are just fighting back.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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What goes around comes around.

How have Christians treated everyone else?



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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Luke 6

Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy! For indeed your reward is great in heaven, For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.

1 Peter 4

12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter. 17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

John 16

...They will put you out of the synagogues. yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.

2 Timothy

…all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution

If the bible is infallible as you say on the first page, and you are indeed a christian. It would seem that everything you're screaming is happening, is what is expected to happen, according to the bible.
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edit on 11/16/2014 by Klassified because: spelling

edit on 11/16/2014 by Klassified because: expected. Not supposed



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: TechUnique

You aren't being persecuted; you are finally being treated like the rest of us.

Those people who you list as killing Christians are the same people who have always killed people of all faiths they didn't agree with, gay folk, women, children, etc.

It's like you are a cop getting thrown in a cell full of people you arrested before and exclaiming to them "I can't believe the way those guards treated me!" when they have been getting treated that way for years. By you.




Authorities all over America are 'cracking down' on expressions of the christian faith
California city closes down private bible study in home
Lawer of jailed Californian pastor speaks out

This is persecution by definition. This would not happen to Muslims in western nations. It would not happen to Gays or any other group or race of people.

People would be up in arms about freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression and freedom to do in your own home as you please as long as you are hurting anybody.

What are you guys not getting. If i had posted this thread but it was about, lets say, mormons being beheaded. Or any other group of people being beheaded.

There were CHILDREN BEHEADED.

CHILDREN BEHEAD. 14564 FLAGS

CHRISTIAN CHILDREN BEHEADED. 2 FLAGS..

Something isn't quite right there.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: signalfire
What goes around comes around.

How have Christians treated everyone else?


What? How dare you bring up the Golden Rule. Jesus hated the Golden Rule, or he invented it. One or the other



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: TechUnique

So how do you explain caterpillars turning into butterflys if not by evolution.


I agree that Darwinism is a foolish theory.

But not evolution as a whole.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: TechUnique

That's what you aren't getting. Those people who are doing these things to Christians are doing those things to gays, women, pagans, and even others who have a slightly different faith than they do.

It's horrible. It's not right. But it's not an exclusively Christian problem. It never has been. A fundamental religious extremist person (who isn't Christian) is just as likely to kill me for my faith as his to kill you for yours.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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Judgement day my brothers. Terminator is coming back



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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Are children being beheaded? Probably not!

The story about the girl goes back to 2013. It's claimed she is a Muslim Syrian girl named Fatima Meghlaj and that she was decapitated when Syrian forces shelled her home.




So she wasn't a Christian, nor was she beheaded by IS!!!


So much for Catholic Onlines credibility!
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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
Luke 6

Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy! For indeed your reward is great in heaven, For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.

1 Peter 4

12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter. 17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

John 16

...They will put you out of the synagogues. yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.

2 Timothy

…all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution

If the bible is infallible as you say on the first page, and you are indeed a christian. It would seem that everything you're screaming is happening, is what is expected to happen, according to the bible.


Yes which is why I don't resent it. I don't like however how everyone is trying to sweep this under the rug. Not once have I heard anyone cry out for the dead children who were beheaded..

Someone said I am judging people for being gay. No I am not. I don't think they are bad people. God says that homosexuality is a sin. Me saying that in the least provocative manner I can and at a time that is relevant is not me judging. There is no hate or angst or bitterness behind it. Surely you can see that from my words, I am not hateful or judgmental I am in fact quite caring.

I care about these HUMAN BEINGS being persecuted.

Do you?



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: TechUnique

First lets throw out everything from Breitbart and Infowars they get more wrong than right.

Second I am sure you have heard the saying "Karmas a bitch" because you must know Christians have done atrocious things in those countries.

Third there are just some countries where advertising your beliefs " especially contrary beliefs" are not a wise thing to do. Same as it doesn't pay to travel and advertise your American in many countries that would be foolish even asking for it.

Please don't forget in some countries Christians are still killing people because they think they are witches.

African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors



EKET, Nigeria — The nine-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.

His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him – Mount Zion Lighthouse.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Another Christian Persecution thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe they should stay out of the Middle East and stop trying to push their religion on those who aren't interested...


Yeah that's an appropriate response to someone causing you a grievance.

Beheading them.

Nice to know you condone that sort of behavior matey at least now we know where we stand..


It may be in the face of western powers bombing the sh$t out of their countries and literally causing 1,000,000 deaths of civilians. DId you know that the two Iraq Wars may have caused that many deaths? And they were both led by "Christian presidents" and both supported by the Religious Right?

But of course, they are "persecuting us," we that have been manipulating the ME, decapitating regimes, installing regimes, and invading/killing/couping the whole time.

It is like an abusive relationship where the abuser tries to blame the victim.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: TechUnique

That's what you aren't getting. Those people who are doing these things to Christians are doing those things to gays, women, pagans, and even others who have a slightly different faith than they do.

It's horrible. It's not right. But it's not an exclusively Christian problem. It never has been. A fundamental religious extremist person (who isn't Christian) is just as likely to kill me for my faith as his to kill you for yours.


Ok here are links which prove to you Christians are TARGETED. BY YOUR GOVERNMENT. AS THREATS OF MILITARY INTEREST. That is persecution.
Military warned Evangelicals Number 1 threat
Link
Link
Colarado state police, Homeland security target Christians

Notice who else is targeted. YOU. We are in this boat together and we have a common enemy. The satanic new world order.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: TechUnique
Yeah that's an appropriate response to someone causing you a grievance.


I didn't say that, did I? Putting words in my mouth doesn't help your case.

You can't go into a country and preach something you KNOW will get you killed and then complain because you get killed... You can't knowingly step into a bear trap and then blame the trap for going off...


There are plenty of Christians who were BORN in the middle east and are being persecuted. Your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and you are making apologies for people who are BEHEADING PEOPLE..



Well then, perhaps your beloved "Christian presidents" should not have spent the past 60 years manipulating the ME, removing regimes that were blocks to these extremist groups, funding rebel groups just like ISIS, and so on. It's called group karma bro.

That doesn't excuse it, but it informs the "why."



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Another Christian Persecution thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe they should stay out of the Middle East and stop trying to push their religion on those who aren't interested...


Yeah that's an appropriate response to someone causing you a grievance.

Beheading them.

Nice to know you condone that sort of behavior matey at least now we know where we stand..


It may be in the face of western powers bombing the sh$t out of their countries and literally causing 1,000,000 deaths of civilians. DId you know that the two Iraq Wars may have caused that many deaths? And they were both led by "Christian presidents" and both supported by the Religious Right?

But of course, they are "persecuting us," we that have been manipulating the ME, decapitating regimes, installing regimes, and invading/killing/couping the whole time.

It is like an abusive relationship where the abuser tries to blame the victim.


WESTERN POWERS.
CHRISTIANS.

You sir just bunched the 2 together even though I just proved in my last post that 'Western powers' are actually out to GET Christians.

How can you even put those two together. It's not Christians drone striking villages you tool it is the evil people in charge.

You think that our governments bombing muslim babies means that muslims should cut the heads off of Christian children as an appropriate response?

Come on..



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: TechUnique
Yeah that's an appropriate response to someone causing you a grievance.


I didn't say that, did I? Putting words in my mouth doesn't help your case.

You can't go into a country and preach something you KNOW will get you killed and then complain because you get killed... You can't knowingly step into a bear trap and then blame the trap for going off...


There are plenty of Christians who were BORN in the middle east and are being persecuted. Your point makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and you are making apologies for people who are BEHEADING PEOPLE..



Well then, perhaps your beloved "Christian presidents" should not have spent the past 60 years manipulating the ME, removing regimes that were blocks to these extremist groups, funding rebel groups just like ISIS, and so on. It's called group karma bro.

That doesn't excuse it, but it informs the "why."


How can these people be true Christians?

They may CLAIM to be Christian but the fruits of their labor suggest the COMPLETE opposite.



Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Bible

And I don't live in the USA by the way.
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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: TechUnique

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Another Christian Persecution thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe they should stay out of the Middle East and stop trying to push their religion on those who aren't interested...


Yeah that's an appropriate response to someone causing you a grievance.

Beheading them.

Nice to know you condone that sort of behavior matey at least now we know where we stand..


It may be in the face of western powers bombing the sh$t out of their countries and literally causing 1,000,000 deaths of civilians. DId you know that the two Iraq Wars may have caused that many deaths? And they were both led by "Christian presidents" and both supported by the Religious Right?

But of course, they are "persecuting us," we that have been manipulating the ME, decapitating regimes, installing regimes, and invading/killing/couping the whole time.

It is like an abusive relationship where the abuser tries to blame the victim.


WESTERN POWERS.
CHRISTIANS.

You sir just bunched the 2 together even though I just proved in my last post that 'Western powers' are actually out to GET Christians.

How can you even put those two together. It's not Christians drone striking villages you tool it is the evil people in charge.

You think that our governments bombing muslim babies means that muslims should cut the heads off of Christian children as an appropriate response?

Come on..

No, they shouldn't, but you should understand that if our countries are droning their wedding parties, perhaps blew up their sister and kids, knocked out their government, tortured their uncle, and killed 100,000's of civilians then people will start fighting back. To say otherwise is plain stupid.

Next, the US is a CHristian majority. Our traditions are mainly Christian historically.

You can deny it all you want, but George Bush II said he was a born again Christian, that he thought God wanted him to invade Iraq, and the Religious Right was fanatically behind his illegal and unethical wars as well as torture.



posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 07:43 PM
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governments bombing muslim babies means that muslims should cut the heads off of Christian children as an approp


Erm...
The photo from the source you shared is Fatima Meghlaj...
A Muslim child...
Decapitated by a bomb...

Got any proof of children being beheaded.

Something other than Catholic Online and it's blatant lies.



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