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originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
That is what is hurting so much the discussion is people want to take their situation *now* and project backward what they believe the intent was rather than trying to understand the actual mindset and intentions of the people they are criticizing.
I try to explain that the women who lived at that time were not idiots and had more of a say regarding the way. It's about modern people not understanding time periods they didn't live in and projecting their current values on them and making significant mistakes in doing so when it comes to understanding why they were behaving the way they were.
We see these behaviors in certain religions TODAY in America.
Don't tell me I don't understand.
Do you also see the part about those religions wanting to turn back the clock to treat women like they were treated back then?
Back then when?
I know about gender inequality in the 50s. Cuz I was actually there.
You miss the point by a mile. You always do.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Annee
:-)
And because a post requires more than just a home made smiley, I guess I'll ask - from who?
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
originally posted by: Annee
Society, culture, and laws did not protect women from being bullied.
Men did.
EDIT: Yes I'm being particularly inflammatory. It's absolute bull# to believe that society has not always been interested in protecting women more than men.
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
Being drafted into Korea or Vietnam.
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Can I be a bigger "traitor". and request one of those girlie mixed drinks with an umbrella, instead? I'll bring snacks!
Ah, the boys' clubhouse.....*wicked grin*
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
originally posted by: Annee
Did women ask not to be drafted?
No, that would be man who made that decision for them.
Women were free to volunteer and did.
Women had a choice. Men did not.
Originally posted by Astyanax
Les Misanthrope believes feminism is a conspiracy against men.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Attempted character assassination. That's a new low, even for you Astynax.
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
So what do feminists really want? What implicit ideology lies beneath the lie “we want equality”, and “death to patriarchy”? They want what every ideology wants: to assert itself in the public square, to seize power — if not in the political arena, at least in parasitic form within the minds who come across it. Preaching equality while at the same time denouncing white male privilege, which to any anti-sexist and anti-racist is a completely sexist and racist assumption, gives irony a bad name. And this is not pushed by any sort of logical or reasonable argument, but through shame tactics, propaganda, slander and outright dishonesty. Underneath the costume, underneath the faceless bogeyman known as “patriarchy”, ideologists pushing an agenda—Patriarchy as a means to matriarchy.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
originally posted by: Annee
Did women ask not to be drafted?
No, that would be man who made that decision for them.
Women were free to volunteer and did.
Women had a choice. Men did not.
Women served where and how men decided.
originally posted by: nenothtu
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
originally posted by: Annee
Did women ask not to be drafted?
No, that would be man who made that decision for them.
Women were free to volunteer and did.
Women had a choice. Men did not.
Women served where and how men decided.
What a surprise - so did men.
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
I had occasion to come across a woman on youtube, who happens to have a interesting viewpoint on the topic.
Her name is Karen Straughan and her vblog is called "Girl writes WHAT?"
One of these women was self-proclaimed “anti-feminist” Karen Straughan. Straughan is a blogger, known by her YouTube handle, GirlWritesWhat. She proudly stated in the beginning of her speech that she has been anti-feminist long before identifying as a men’s rights activist. Straughan has short, cropped hair and is involved in the LGBTQ movement. She is quick to point this out, because she doesn’t want her fellow MRAs to judge her by these qualities. She says that although she is “not a feminine-presenting person,” she is certainly not a feminist. Why? Because feminism isn’t even an equality movement.
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: metamagic
Yet the very basis, the word feminist, is gender selective.
And that gets worse as you listen to the ideology.
originally posted by: Annee
Did women ask not to be drafted?
No, that would be man who made that decision for them.
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
Women were free to volunteer and did.
Women had a choice. Men did not.
originally posted by: Annee
Women served where and how men decided.
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
I had occasion to come across a woman on youtube, who happens to have a interesting viewpoint on the topic.
Her name is Karen Straughan and her vblog is called "Girl writes WHAT?"
originally posted by: Annee
theflounce.com...#/
originally posted by: ErgoTheAbsurd
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
I had occasion to come across a woman on youtube, who happens to have a interesting viewpoint on the topic.
Her name is Karen Straughan and her vblog is called "Girl writes WHAT?"
originally posted by: Annee
theflounce.com...#/
You could also try listening to what she has to say and make up your own mind.
I wonder if you could explain what this has to do with feminism? Are you saying that feminists are messing with some kind of natural order?