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Sexism, Misogyny and the rise and rise and rise of the internet asshole....

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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: TKDRL

Ignorance is a choice.. that is what these type of people choose: because it's fun, it's humorous, it's a laugh..

they're cheap.. they wear bad clothes too..whenever you see them attacking on the internet, ask them what their relationship was with their mother.. and realize they probably have a terrible one with her..
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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: tony9802
I have serious doubts 4channers even bother wearing clothes at all. That would mean they need to do laundry regularly



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:09 PM
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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: TKDRL

Lol...Where are you finding these "Honky Tonks" and "Biker Bars" you keep referring to? I live in the West, and Honky-tonks are extremely rare and nothing like you describe. Here that term refers to dancing to live music. "Biker" bars sort of exist but I have not been to, nor am I aware of any like you describe. I want to check these places out. Where are they, you've got me curious enough to go visit?



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:16 PM
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I personally think it's all that feminist crying and complaining out there. Thety try to represent ALL women, and say that feminism=woman, but feminism is an idea ...it's not a woman. Feminists give women everywhere a bad name and unfortunately, because they convince the world that every woman is a feminist (or they think they should be and condemn those who are not). Unfortunately, every woman on the internet has to pay for their disdain and hatred for men, women in real life are silently ridiculed.

This is one of those situations where women say they are not being heard, yet that's all the media talks about, and the myriad of feminist groups out there ..how can they NOT be heard, they walk up right to the capitol building with mega-phones. It's the men who have no voice in the media and have no groups to protect them from government favoritism. Men are not heard AT ALL, so the story is always one sided...where of course, the woman is always the victim of men, yet they still keep getting paid mad ends by continuing to be called a minority, when women have been working in high profile jobs, getting paid high wages and holding high offices, yet somehow they are still called a minority.Again, men have no voice and are never heard (the average man that is, not loud mouthed politicians)

Anyway, blame feminists for this because they have turned men against women because of the lies, animosity, attacks against men and even being so calculated as to create programs where they concentrate on trying to effeminate young boys, so that they will be more controlled by women when they get to be an adult. Why not let a man just be a man?
But I digress, men are just getting upset and even jealous a bit that women seem to use this affirmative action card over and over ....and yet they still have priorities for jobs (the minority thing), the media always victimizes them and blames men for it, but then never get a man's point of view...or listen to his side of the story, unless it's one of those Male Feminists (whatever that is lol)...he gets to speak. This why women are being turned against, and it wil only get worse.....until feminists are gone, and no longer speak for ALL women.

The Late Aaron Russo (Famous Hollywood Producer) explaining what his best friend Nick Rockefeller said about feminism and why it was started in the first place:




posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Leonidas

That said, what CAN be done to reign in the Internet-Asshole? Because it is a growing and disheartening phenomenon. Do the decent people move on and leave the Net to the D-bags? How can you flush the internet toilet?



We don't.

Some battles are never-ending.

The best we can do is pick the fights we're willing to engage in, and let someone else handle the others. We can't "beat them" once and for all, because it's like playing whack-a-mole - as soon as you whack one, another one pops his head up elsewhere.

The only options are to engage on our OWN time tables and criteria, or slink away entirely.

There will be no end of it. As soon as one undesirable behavior is erased, another will develop, or the beholders will find another to be contemptuous of. People CHOOSE to be dissatisfied, and if you "fix" that, they'll cast around until they find something else to be happily dissatisfied about.

It's the Human Way.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: tony9802
a reply to: TKDRL

Ignorance is a choice.. that is what these type of people choose: because it's fun, it's humorous, it's a laugh..

they're cheap.. they wear bad clothes too..whenever you see them attacking on the internet, ask them what their relationship was with their mother.. and realize they probably have a terrible one with her..


Ignorance is an easy choice at that. Much easier to stay inside a cocoon of stereotypes and generalities than to actually get outside the comfort zone and find out what the real story is. You may make a fool of yourself, you may have a rough ride but you will come out wiser on the other side.

Speaking of generalizations, I was always told that women should check out how a man treats his mother because ultimately that is how he will treat you - and men should check out her mother because that who she will likely resemble later in life.

A generalization that has not been totally inaccurate in my experience. (I love my 80yr old mom) lol



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Grovit

That's the thing. I would never say stuff like that either. I have lived around men all my life (as I am one),and I don't hear them saying derogatory things about women, or threatening with violence at all....if anything it's quite the opposite. They want to "attract" women, so they can hve sex with them (not speaking of rape here...just a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship...calm down lol), the men I have always been around have done their best to NOT make women run away or hate them.

I really am not sure where all of these claims and allegations are coming from....I wonder if the MOD is just living in living in a bad part of town. I have never seen this type of behavior from men outside of a TV screen. Which may explain a lot right there....everyone can be brainwashed by a TV and the media to believe there is a fire in the freezer.
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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
I personally think it's all that feminist crying and complaining out there.


Anyway, blame feminists for this because they have turned men against women because of the lies, animosity, attacks against men and even being so calculated as to create programs where they concentrate on trying to effeminate young boys, so that they will be more controlled by women when they get to be an adult. Why not let a man just be a man?



I'M A FEMINIST....run for the hills Im trying to destroy your life and manliness!!!!!

Gotta say thats some pretty psycho crap you just spouted about me and my sisters.
Never done one of those accusations.
But if it helps you sleep at night, go ahead hate away, we women have been on the receiving end of male domination for millennia, sorry you get butt hurt if we dare to peep up and say no its not OK to say you will rape us online.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: WilsonWilson

Well, sex is everywhere, insinuated in ads, TV shows, even in cartoons. Not to mention the porn industry which is available on demand, this is warping young men' perception of what intimacy should be like and what woman should look like.

Any form of abuse is evidently not good. It starts at home with the parents, the education of how we treat each other is where we should start.

Why do these people who act in such ways do so? Because, they can't get caught? Because of a superior/inferior complex?



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Leonidas
I am from the east coast, NY and CT to be exact. Not sure about nowadays where they are, I am 32, and grew out of the testosterone rage filled state in my early 20's.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

That's my point....You're very first 3 words....and you are already yelling at me. Get it now?Maybe Feminists should stop coming out so strong like they are on a warpath with men, and they might not get blow-back. And by the way, I don't even have to prove that everything I said is true....."you and your sisters" have an internet FULL of attacks on men and male children. It only takes one to type in "feminist war on boys and men" and there will be pages and pages of proof....many of the statements come right from the mouths of feminists themselves...and some women are actually writing books and spilling the bean on this feminist agenda of hate. I you would like I could leave you tons of references. Just say the word.

P.S

Where did this come from??




go ahead hate away, we women have been on the receiving end of male domination for millennia, sorry you get butt hurt if we dare to peep up and say no its not OK to say you will rape us online.



I never once said I hated women in my post. And why are you so defensive? Again, your allegations of events in my post that never even happened..things never said only reinforce what I actually DID say. If some guy out there mentioned raping a woman...first off, its just words. Welcome to the world, where people get hurt by words of all kinds...men and women, on a daily basis, since the beginning of time. If you never actually got raped by the guy...I'd say you're alright. If you don't like what someone says on the internet...maybe this isnt the place for you. I personally have had many things said that would hurt someone if they were too sensitive...but its online...who really takes that seriously?
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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: jheated5
a reply to: neformore

Do you play online gaming? I see racists, sexists, people wishing death on children, children wishing death on other people.... It is not just a womens issue is what I am saying. Everyone has a target on their back when people can be anonymous.


Exactly. OP though I'd say you might have fell short of your own goals/ideals by missing this.

Kids < -- Women < -- Men.

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posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: nenothtu

It was a small farming community, not the city - so I expect the reaction there was much the same as it would be here.

When I got the phone call that my daughter had just broken that boys nose, I expected the cops would be around shortly - in all honesty.

But the first question HIS family asked after finding out the who... was why would she do that... which they found out... and he got in more trouble at home than my daughter gave him!

So yeah... I expect not much different there than here!



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician


yeah yeah yeah

Insult, then call us all feminazi balh blah blah, I'm to blame for your penis size, your marks at school, the job you didnt get, blah blah blah feminism killed women...they should still be in a 1950 drug induced state of prettiness and motherhood.

It isn't ok to harras women on line. Period
It isn't OK to then blame them for the harassment they get simply because they are women.

It isn't OK to harass anyone online. Period.


Thats a little know thing called putting the victim on trial which is EXACTLY what you are doing.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: nenothtu

And yet again I have not mentioned women's clothing, I don't know why I keep getting accused of it.
I responded to a poster basically claiming that non Muslims can't talk about Muslims which is ridiculous.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
I personally think it's all that feminist crying and complaining out there. Thety try to represent ALL women, and say that feminism=woman, but feminism is an idea ...it's not a woman. Feminists give women everywhere a bad name and unfortunately, because they convince the world that every woman is a feminist (or they think they should be and condemn those who are not). Unfortunately, every woman on the internet has to pay for their disdain and hatred for men, women in real life are silently ridiculed.

This is one of those situations where women say they are not being heard, yet that's all the media talks about, and the myriad of feminist groups out there ..how can they NOT be heard, they walk up right to the capitol building with mega-phones. It's the men who have no voice in the media and have no groups to protect them from government favoritism. Men are not heard AT ALL, so the story is always one sided...where of course, the woman is always the victim of men, yet they still keep getting paid mad ends by continuing to be called a minority, when women have been working in high profile jobs, getting paid high wages and holding high offices, yet somehow they are still called a minority.Again, men have no voice and are never heard (the average man that is, not loud mouthed politicians)

Anyway, blame feminists for this because they have turned men against women because of the lies, animosity, attacks against men and even being so calculated as to create programs where they concentrate on trying to effeminate young boys, so that they will be more controlled by women when they get to be an adult. Why not let a man just be a man?
But I digress, men are just getting upset and even jealous a bit that women seem to use this affirmative action card over and over ....and yet they still have priorities for jobs (the minority thing), the media always victimizes them and blames men for it, but then never get a man's point of view...or listen to his side of the story, unless it's one of those Male Feminists (whatever that is lol)...he gets to speak. This why women are being turned against, and it wil only get worse.....until feminists are gone, and no longer speak for ALL women.

The Late Aaron Russo (Famous Hollywood Producer) explaining what his best friend Nick Rockefeller said about feminism and why it was started in the first place:



Read that and tell me how many generalizations and sweeping statements you made. And as is usually the case with such assertions, they aren't correct. Not often.

"Feminists" don't hate men, they don't think they speak for all women and they don't give women a bad name! That is all ridiculous nonsense. I think the definition of "feminist" you are using is a pretty extreme stereotype. In fact I know it is.

They are fighting what they see as injustices. And they come from all walks of life, including thoroughly heterosexual stay-at-home-soccer-moms to militant lesbian art students...with every conceivable mix in-between.

They are trying to even the playing field for the most part. They aren't man-hating turbo-butches.

And they are nothing like you describe.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Char-Lee

well he told me that he had only been married to the girl's mother for 5 years and the girl, upon reaching her 18 birthday wanted him to buy her a car but he had just spent his savings on remodeling their home. so she accused him of touching her inappropriately, her mom believed her and divorced him, at the same time as pressing charges. he supposedly put his hand on one of her body parts but he claims he didn't. i would say i know him pretty well, although i am not married to him and never had a relationship with him.

his whole life went downhill rapidly after that. he got sick, ended up with the bird flu, they had to put him in an artificial coma, which he survived but ended up a physical disaster. he has one of those diseases now, like parkinson's i think, and this on top of being falsely accused and on something akin to house arrest. i mean the guy is not even allowed to watch disney movies for cripes sake. she was 18 when the event allegedly happened but he is not allowed to be anywhere near kids, schools, and on and on. he said there were alot of other guys going thru the same thing.

when i was a teenager i was dating guys in their 20s and i wasn't even 18 yet. are they all sexual predators? heck i was dating a school teacher when i was 16. when i went to a jethro tull concert there was no seating on the main floor, everyone just stood. so i went with a couple friends, one a guy, one a lady. every 10 seconds, some guy was grabbing my butt. it was very irritating. but i don't think sending them all to prison or a lifetime of punishment for inappropriately touching some part of my "private" anatomy, is justice or called for. yes it bothered me greatly, no it is not worthy of ruining their lives. that's just crazy vindictive crap. it's over the top and it's gonna come back in the form of even worse misogyny if that trend doesn't stop.

see this is how they get you: they only allow the bare minimum of your defense in the court. then they tell you if you plead guilty, you'll just get probation and classes. but if you plead not guilty, and the court finds you guilty, you could spend up to 20 years in prison. they do that so they can up their quotas of prosecuted sex offenders, who are at least part of the time, completely innocent men who were accused of crimes they didn't commit and spend the rest of their lives, ostracized and told where they can go and what they can do, which is extremely limited. even their housing has to be so many yards from homes with children, schools, or any other venues children are at. and so on.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: redhorse

Um no. I've worked at a strip club in Texas and bars and what we would call a Honkytonk in Montana. While there was a criminal element evident to varying degrees in most of those places I must admit that I have never walked into a biker bar. So while there is apparently some confusion based on geography (although a honkytonk does not have strippers here), comparing 4chan to a hangout for hardened criminals is more than a little ridiculous.



I worked in a strip club in NC that was also a "biker bar". The clientele was remarkably well behaved, given the stereotype that "bikers" typically engender. Now, to be sure, when it got exciting, it got REALLY exciting, really fast, and all over the joint. Paradoxically, perhaps, having nekkid women on stage had a moderating effect. Whenever a fella got out of line, it was likely as not to be another customer that put him on his ass and in his place, before a bouncer (which, in that establishment, was every man-jack of us male employees - including the manager, bartender, and DJ) got to him. It seems that the general clientele didn't want to have the dancing interrupted just because some guy decided to be an asshole...

... and they fixed that, post-haste, to get the dancers back on the stage.



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

See... I'm a woman, but I'm not a feminist.

Women can and should be strong - and are in their own right - but this does not mean we have to be men. It means we should be able to wear whatever we like, whether that be covered head to toe or a bikini on the beach, and not let anyone say boo to us about it. That takes guts. It takes guts to be whoever you are, no holds barred.

But that doesn't mean we cannot be entirely female, it doesn't mean we cannot allow ourselves to be pampered, nor does it mean that I wont make hubby a sandwich... even if I giggle when he says it!

From what I can tell, feminists want to take the female out of women, and create women in some weird image. I don't like that...

But I'm a woman, who wont take what others want to dish out.. just not a feminist. I like being a woman... its great. Men support us... and make our lives easier...

Its wonderful to be a woman!
I don't want to be a feminist.




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