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Or use a SAM that's common in that region, and it gets passed off as an accidental shoot down, in a case of mistaken identity.
originally posted by: paraphi
Nice to post a snip from somewhere. Just ask yourself "who is Valentin Vasilescu", the "expert" and cited in the article. It's not a trick question, but who is he. I image he must be a air accident expert with a specialism in (say) forensic air explosives, or some other similar field, but no, he's a former deputy commander of an airfield.
And this guy is considered an expert? Really?
The plane could not be shot down by Buk-M1 as there was no electromagnetic radiation from the missile complex registered.
However, the Romanian expert believes that it was not a Ukrainian Su-25, as the plane could not reach the altitude of 10,300 meters and strike the Boeing due to the poor level of training of Ukrainian flight personnel and technical imperfection of old Su-25. Vasilescu indicates that radars show Su-25 identically to MiG-29 fighter jet, as the planes have identical reflective surface area.
Vasilescu added that MiG-29 of the Ukrainian army are armed with GSh-301, 30 millimeter gun, with a rate of 1,500 rounds per minute. The gun was loaded with 150 shells containing tungsten alloy. "These shells go through targets, leaving traces of perfectly circular shape. They do not explode inside the cockpit, they are not incendiary, but can kill the crew and destroy the cockpit, which can be seen in the presence of holes with their edges opening outside on the opposite wall.
The death of the crew and the depressurization of the cockpit made the Boeing spin instantly, and the plane fell apart at an altitude of two thousand meters. In the air, there was neither fire, nor bomb explosion.
The Romanian expert noted that Polish military pilots are best trained in south-eastern Europe and have many hours of flight time (180-200 hours per year). "They are familiar with the airspace of Ukraine, they took part in all exercises that Ukrainian Air Force has organized in the last four or five years. Polish Air Force has 31 MiG-29 jets, 16 of which were re-equipped by specialists of Israel Aerospace Industries. The planes received new avionics (multifunction color displays (MFCD), GPS-guided weapons, data-link support, UHF / VHF RT-8200 Rockwell Collins radio station and MDP video technology, etc.). Polish pilots were trained by Israeli instructors who have extensive experience in destroying a variety of air targets, concluded Valentin Vasilescu.
Mods, move to hoax pleeease?
This move by Putin is probably why the Russian Navy is just off the coast of Australia. My guess is Putin will return to Russia that way.
Where are the recording from flight control and the cockpit? Why were they confiscated and made secret? What are they hiding? Where are the transcripts? What are they hiding? Why did it disappear from the news the minute Russia started releasing evidence? Why was a ukie fighter jet stalking a passanger plane. What was it doing so close to the airplane when the plane went down? Where is the US sat data that would prove their purported assertions? Why did ukrainian secret services release youtube videos to the media purporting to be a recording between the Donbass defenders and Russian handlers? Why did they upload this " evidence " on youtube a day before the plane was shot down?
"How far the plane Ukrainian fighter has he approached the flight MH-17? Before aim and open fire on the flight deck, a length of 6 m section, the B-777, which has a length of 64.8 m, is to enter into a whole line sight of a fighter pilot. As the best way to hit the cockpit was an approach almost perpendicular to the direction of flight of MH-17, the pilot of the fighter jet was in the right conditions to superimpose the focus of its weapons on the firing point from the distance of 900 m from B -777. If the approach speed was about 280-300 m / s, the repetition of the attack is impossible, the fighter pilot had 3-4 seconds to all these maneuvers, since it must be released from the attack at a distance of 150m. This implies an automatic result of dozens of hours of training in simulators and flight conditions similar to those when the flight MH-17 was shot down conditions."
The author Valentin Vasilescu states Ukrainian military pilots, fly on average less than 40 hours / year and do not have the skills needed for close air combat (dual) enabling them to shoot down Flight MH-17... He notes Polish military pilots do have those skills. And that is where he leaves is. No explanation of why or how Polish military pilots would get involved in this. Nor any proof of it.
The author Valentin Vasilescu states Ukrainian military pilots, fly on average less than 40 hours / year and do not have the skills needed for close air combat (dual) enabling them to shoot down Flight MH-17…