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originally posted by: Aazadan
It still costs $8000 per year. At minimum wage that is 21 hours of work per week to afford tuition.
then i say i guess you need to make more than minimum wage and/or work more than 21 hours....
That does not include living expenses.
thats where the more work thing comes in
The only options are to already have a good paying job, or to qualify for loans. Neither of which this girl can do.
originally posted by: Daughter2
Working a full time job, one that pays non-degree wages, barely pays for living expenses. There's no way it can pay for tuition too.
i dont agree. get a roommate to split the cost of rent with..rent an efficiency...work full time and go to school part time...make the grades to get a scholarship..get student loans
Just because you can't control the teenager, doesn't mean you don't have an obligation to help them be independent adults who can earn a decent living.
its not about controlling them when they are a teen. its about when they become an adult, my obligation stops
Not providing a college education in today's world most likely means they will be living in proverty their entire life.
thats just plain BS
originally posted by: Grovit
my step father worked a full time job and 2 part time jobs at the same time for like 7 years....
thats a lot of hours taken up in a week.
if i can work the hours i did and he can work the hours he did then ADULTS should be able to figure out how to handle school and work at the same time without forcing their parents to pay....
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
How about kids do like they used to do and either get scholarships or work their way through college themselves. Higher education is a privilege and not a right for anyone. I think the court is dead wrong on this decision. I think they are even more dead wrong because this girl is in her twenties. You can legally kick them out of your house at 18, but you need to pay for college at 21??
Nope. I would be tempted to quit my job and sell all my assets before she got a penny from it for college. It's the principle of the matter.
I can't wait until they start telling parents that they need to pay all of their kid's medical costs when they are in their 30's.
I almost can't wait until this entire entitled generations parents die off....
The world may cease to spin as the me, me, me hits the fan.
How about kids do like they used to do and either get scholarships or work their way through college themselves.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Grovit
The state should pay for all college tuition costs.
It's an investment in the future of your workforce. Just make them sign a contract that states they will work within the country for X number of years after they graduate.
This story in particular? Not a fan of courts telling people what to do with their money.
~Tenth
originally posted by: Irishhaf
There are jobs out there that can help pay your way through school, if she doesn't want to actually work... Tough, anyone that says it's impossible is not making that choice based on fact.
originally posted by: Grovit
then i say i guess you need to make more than minimum wage and/or work more than 21 hours....
before i got hurt i was working 50-70 hours a week. i did that for a couple years.....
if i can work 70 hours in a week then others can go to school and work at the same time....seems to me like this thread is full of excuses and blah blah about its so hard to do.....
well it may not be easy but im thinking its possible...
if i can work the hours i did and he can work the hours he did then ADULTS should be able to figure out how to handle school and work at the same time without forcing their parents to pay....
people want degrees and i get it...thats a good thing...people dont HAVE to go to school full time...they CAN take a semester off each year to work.....
originally posted by: Grovit
my wife was going to school when we met...studying childrens lit....
she was living with her dad...had student loans and worked part time at a pizza shop...
she was getting it done..why cant this girl do the same?
there are lots of jobs out there that pay for school as long as the classes are related to the job you have or job youre aiming for...
if not living in poverty is the goal then that is a perfectly good option....
go get a job at a bank and they will pay for financial classes......
oh no no no....they want to major in ancient aramaic and expect mommy and daddy to foot the bill right?
please
originally posted by: Aazadan
If you don't have the education how are you going to make more than minimum wage?
By your own admission your wife did childrens lit, that's hardly a high paying or even super beneficial field to society. It's on par with womens studies. You (and seemingly her) had no problem with her getting help from parents. Double standard much?
originally posted by: Grovit
im a high school drop out and the only job i have ever had that was minimum wage was my first job....ive done pretty well i think.....
when i started out i job hopped a bit and went to a skilled trade. more than one employer paid for my school and testing.....left that field down the road for another and that company did the same thing.....dropped out of school when i was 16....dad was in jail and i was working to pay the rent.....
im not buying this living in poverty with no degree or will only make minimum wage with no college BS cause it is simply not true.
i am far from the only example of someone that can make good money without it.
originally posted by: Aazadan
I graduated high school, have 3 associates degrees and a bachelors degree, plus many more classes for another bachelors... I have never been paid more than minimum wage.
proof that a college degree does not equal a good paying job
I just don't think we're going to agree here, your argument is so contradictory to my life experience that you might as well be saying water isn't wet.
thats fine...we disagree. i dont know nor do i really care about your life experiences....im talking about my life experiences....
There is a huge chunk of college graduates these days that are working minimum wage jobs if they can find a job at all. Do you think having fewer qualifications is going to work out for someone?