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originally posted by: Grovit
i dont see how parents(and lets face it. its mostly fathers) should be made to pay child support for an adult, no matter if they are in college.
it is called child support....not young adult support.
what really fries me about that is if my boy decided to go to college and didnt live with his mother i would still have to pay money to her.....its not like i would pay directly to him....
how is that one fair?
originally posted by: boohoo
They are not actually adults,
if they can vote, get drafted, and go to war then yes, theyre adults
there is a reason why Obamacare raised the age of how long a person can be carried on their parents insurance to 25.
this was before obamacare. my step father had my step bros on till they were 25 and this was way before that...allowed to and required to are different things
An 18 year old kid today would have great difficulty renting an apartment or getting credit, even a unskilled labor job these day.
maybe where you live. not around here. my youngest brother just turned 19 but the year before the credit card offers rolled in...he had a crap job too. jewelry store credit card. gas credit card...they can get a job and rent an apartment no probem
Newsflash parents, a kid today is not a real adult until they are 25. Bad choices require consequences, the "consequence" of having a kid in 2014 means "paying thier way", until 25 years old. Don't like it? Don't have kids
originally posted by: Grovit
so having a child is a bad choice?
im not saying i wont pay my daughters way till she is 25....i might...i might not.
depends on a lot of different factors...
just to be clear again...they are not adults but they can go to war and fight....
gotcha
And if there are no jobs for them?
You do realize how many college grads can't work?
And if the state starts paying, does it get to dictate what they learn or can they continue to get womyn's studies degrees and other such tripe on our dime?
originally posted by: boohoo
an get shot in war, to who's benefit do you think that is?
Like I said, big business and government have decided FOR YOU. Sure an 18 year old can get drafted, for the same reason they have to attend public schools while being 18 (parents getting fined or jailed it they don't attend). In the minds of government and big business we are their property, being a draft-able "adult" or military volunteer at 18, has nothing to do with the overall conversation. Make no mistake, government and big business want YOU, the parent, to foot the bill until they are 25, they just haven't overtly stated it to the public.
originally posted by: OrphanApology
. More than likely this chick's hands were tied in regard to going to school and getting financial aid(impossible to put yourself through four years of school these days without aid and working a regular job, trust me...I tried)
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originally posted by: Grovit
a reply to: OrphanApology
i know you are giving the reasons...i am saying i will not change my mind because i dont agree with the reasons and really i dont care about the reasons...
it is not something i agree with and that is why i started the thread....to see if people agree with it. not to find out the reasons....
youre also not really giving reasons why...more like facts of....
you said you cant pay your way these days..you need loans..grants....aid...
so be it...if thats what it takes.....
a lot of kids bust ass to get the grades so they can get scholarships to college...good for them...
what is the incentive to do that then?
College students who get scholarships are still required to fill out a fasfa form to get said scholarship. Meaning, until the age of 25 you are still using parents income to get scholarships. The majority of scholarships are need based(unless you're a football player etc). Meaning, if you are over 18 and independent and have good grades, if you and your parents are not on speaking terms...you are not getting any scholarships. You have to have their tax returns. If they make too much, you will not qualify.
i mean, screw the killer grades and grant applications. just take your parents to court and make them pay for it.
You cannot fill out a grant application without parents income until 25. Killer grades or not, your parents are required to contribute until that age or else you cannot get funding. The problem lies in the aid requirements.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Grovit
So the first lesson this student gets is how to use the court system to get money from people. I bet that she will repete this process throughout her life.
originally posted by: Grovit
a reply to: tothetenthpower
i dont disagree with your post..
i live in the states and here it is not a right.
i would be fine with the gov footing the bill for people to go to college.
my issue is forcing parents to pay for their adult offsprings education.
its just not right.
originally posted by: Grovit
originally posted by: OrphanApology
. More than likely this chick's hands were tied in regard to going to school and getting financial aid(impossible to put yourself through four years of school these days without aid and working a regular job, trust me...I tried)
out of everything said in this thread, i still dont think parents should be forced to pay for college.
if the parents dont want to pay and the kid wants to go to college and the only way they can do it is to get aid and work a full time job or 3 part time gigs or take 6 years to get a 4 year degree, then so be it.
thats how i feel and im not going to change my mind...