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Dead Zones...The New Doom Porn

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posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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Hypoxic zones also know as "Dead Zones" are something we should take note of. Dead Zones such as the one in the Gulf of Mexico form every year due to oxygen depletion in the water; killing any life. These do uccur naturally, however, humans contribute in large part to it. Especially now as more countries develop and amass wealth/ waste this problem will only get worse.



Excess nutrients that run off land or are piped as wastewater into rivers and coasts can stimulate an overgrowth of algae, which then sinks and decomposes in the water. The decomposition process consumes oxygen and depletes the supply available to healthy marine life.


To add to the mix, scientists are now saying that Climate Change "warming" worsens the conditions which allows for Dead Zones to form in the first place.



Scientists have long known that warmer water increases this problem, but a new study Monday in the journal Global Change Biology by Smithsonian Institution researchers found about two dozen different ways - biologically, chemically and physically -


that climate change worsens the oxygen depletion.


"We've underestimated the effect of climate change on dead zones," said study lead author Andrew Altieri, a researcher at the Smithsonian's tropical center in Panama.


As markets grow/ expand there will be more run-off waste and "Dead Zones" will increase in size. I say that we need to nip this in the bud? What says ATS?

oceanservice.noaa.gov...

www.cbsnews.com...
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posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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There was a thread on this the other week someone said if the oceans die then we die but could we not survive?



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: PhoenixFreeman
There was a thread on this the other week someone said if the oceans die then we die but could we not survive?


No, because the algae in the top few inches of ocean water produce most of the earth's oxygen.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:10 PM
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More so than you think. Dead zones are becoming more prevalent as the years creep along.
Caused by man or from natural cycles?
Who is to say.
But things are changing.



An on-going analysis by Professor Bob Diaz of the Virginia Institute of Marine Science (VIMS) and Swedish researcher Rutger Rosenberg shows that the number of “dead zones”—areas of seafloor with too little oxygen for most marine life—has increased by a third between 1995 and 2007. Dead zones are now a key stressor of marine ecosystems and rank with over-fishing, habitat loss, and harmful algal blooms as global environmental problems.

Diaz and Rosenberg record 405 dead zones in coastal waters worldwide, affecting an area of 95,000 square miles, about the size of New Zealand. The largest dead zone in the U.S., at the mouth of the Mississippi, covers more than 8,500 square miles, roughly the size of New Jersey. A dead zone also underlies much of the main-stem of Chesapeake Bay, each summer occupying about 40% of its area and up to 5% of its volume.


www.vims.edu...



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: signalfire

originally posted by: PhoenixFreeman
There was a thread on this the other week someone said if the oceans die then we die but could we not survive?


No, because the algae in the top few inches of ocean water produce most of the earth's oxygen.


Wow what about trees I thought the trees produced most of the oxygen...



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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Unfortunately, the most devastating dead-zone sits within the "Beltway" in D.C.

Dead-zones in the ocean are a naturally recurring phenomena...

Dead-zones" in D.C. ? THAT is where our stupidity lies.

(My overseas friends, feel free to extrapolate and apply as necessary
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edit on 13-11-2014 by madmac5150 because: Keyboard emesis

edit on 13-11-2014 by madmac5150 because: No edit... just wanted to mention that I used extrapolate in a sentence. That is all.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: PhoenixFreeman

originally posted by: signalfire

originally posted by: PhoenixFreeman
There was a thread on this the other week someone said if the oceans die then we die but could we not survive?


No, because the algae in the top few inches of ocean water produce most of the earth's oxygen.


Wow what about trees I thought the trees produced most of the oxygen...


The oceans are a far bigger percentage of the earth's surface than the land is, and of course not all the land is green. A lot of it is desert and arctic zones, not producing O2. We'd suffocate without that top inch or two of ocean water. And don't forget the seasons; only the equator zones and half the northern and southern hemispheres are producing O2 actively due to the winter season on the opposite side.
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posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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What would be the consequences of halting farmer's from fertilizing their crops? They fertilize the land to feed hundreds of millions, the rains come and wash the excess which eventually accumulate into the mouths of rivers that meet the oceans, like the Mississippi River. Any way to stop this process, would result in a lot less people. Do you feel it is worth the consequences?



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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This is a serious issue and we need to help raise awareness about the threat these "dead zones" pose to the entire planet, and mankind as a whole.

You think the devastation of the rainforests is a travesty? How about the ocean in its entirety!? It comprises of approx. 70% of our planet and humans have explored more of the MOON than we have of the ocean's floor. So many life-saving medicines, biological miracles, and vast natural resources come from the ocean. We need to raise awareness and bring these types of articles to the forefront of "news" - social media a great vehicle for this. A dead ocean is a dead planet. Play your part. I'm posting these articles on FB as we speak. Go ATS community - play your position everyone! and Thank You in advance



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
What would be the consequences of halting farmer's from fertilizing their crops? They fertilize the land to feed hundreds of millions, the rains come and wash the excess which eventually accumulate into the mouths of rivers that meet the oceans, like the Mississippi River. Any way to stop this process, would result in a lot less people. Do you feel it is worth the consequences?


I often wonder if the "green movement" or "eco-warriors" (depending on this week's nomenclature... haven't checked "wiki" yet this week) would not just prefer that most humans die off immediately. Think about that for a few... the green agenda...



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
This is a serious issue and we need to help raise awareness about the threat these "dead zones" pose to the entire planet, and mankind as a whole.

You think the devastation of the rainforests is a travesty? How about the ocean in its entirety!? It comprises of approx. 70% of our planet and humans have explored more of the MOON than we have of the ocean's floor. So many life-saving medicines, biological miracles, and vast natural resources come from the ocean. We need to raise awareness and bring these types of articles to the forefront of "news" - social media a great vehicle for this. A dead ocean is a dead planet. Play your part. I'm posting these articles on FB as we speak. Go ATS community - play your position everyone! and Thank You in advance



Thank you for this post. We do need to get serious but as GodEmporer stated:



What would be the consequences of halting farmer's from fertilizing their crops? They fertilize the land to feed hundreds of millions, the rains come and wash the excess which eventually accumulate into the mouths of rivers that meet the oceans, like the Mississippi River. Any way to stop this process, would result in a lot less people. Do you feel it is worth the consequences?


If we end this system of watering crops, millions starve and die. If we keep things as-is the oceans die, then eventually us. What's the answer?
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posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: lostbook

Progressing down the same road will wipe out many species, but life will go on, probably without the human species.

This is just one problem, of a myriad that advanced technology and overpopulation have caused. It will not be solved by any democratic government, people will choose convenience every time. The only sensible answer, is through the destruction of all barbaric and out-dated systems of control, such as religion, democracy, and nations. The best avenue for success is through the emergence of a Global Scientific Dictatorship, with the technological capacity to maintain human population and suppress the technologies, and activities of the masses. It's not a moral question that is being answered, it is long-term survival of humans and all species we depend on, and so on.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:03 PM
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You don't have to fertilize with chemical fertilizers - just use manure, humanure, leaf fall, recycled anything organic.

Of course the problem with manure and humanure is that we humans are ingesting poisons and pharmaceuticals all the time, and are now filling food animals with them too. The fertilizer we're producing may be somewhat toxic but not as bad as digging up chemical fertilizers and putting them on the land; this kills the microbes in the soil and in the end, kills the soil. It's unsustainable.

Look also into aquaponics; we can feed people even in the desert or on asphalt with aquaponics.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: signalfire
You don't have to fertilize with chemical fertilizers - just use manure, humanure, leaf fall, recycled anything organic.

Of course the problem with manure and humanure is that we humans are ingesting poisons and pharmaceuticals all the time, and are now filling food animals with them too. The fertilizer we're producing may be somewhat toxic but not as bad as digging up chemical fertilizers and putting them on the land; this kills the microbes in the soil and in the end, kills the soil. It's unsustainable.

Look also into aquaponics; we can feed people even in the desert or on asphalt with aquaponics.


I started pooping in the yard, but the neighbors got mad.

Kept stealing all of their magazines.

Very green, healthy lawn, though...



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: lostbook

Progressing down the same road will wipe out many species, but life will go on, probably without the human species.

This is just one problem, of a myriad that advanced technology and overpopulation have caused. It will not be solved by any democratic government, people will choose convenience every time. The only sensible answer, is through the destruction of all barbaric and out-dated systems of control, such as religion, democracy, and nations. The best avenue for success is through the emergence of a Global Scientific Dictatorship, with the technological capacity to maintain human population and suppress the technologies, and activities of the masses. It's not a moral question that is being answered, it is long-term survival of humans and all species we depend on, and so on.


What you're proposing is something like the Zeitgeist Movement although they would prefer a democratic voting system based on EVERYONE knowing what's going on and being educated. I don't think you'll get far calling it a 'Global Scientific Dictatorship; technology is okay as long as its use if very carefully implemented, keeping in mind the problems with 'unintended consequences' which are often hard to predict.

Witness harnessing the atom for power; we were assured it was perfectly safe...



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:29 PM
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Actually this is not new doom porn. They have known of these dead zones increasing for fifty years. It isn't so much that they are speeding up, it is that they are increasing at approximately the same percentage and the overall area is larger. This means that things aren't healing up. If you double the size of the effected area over thirty years and are increasing it at the same say three percent, the increase is actually double the original area. I don't know if I said that right. This makes it look not as bad as it really is if they use numbers to hide the truth.

I'm not sure of the actual rates, that was just sort of an example, but I did read somewhere that the rate of increase was about the same. It's like money growing in a bank account.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: PhoenixFreeman
There is ALGAE up in our atmosphere - it rises up just like hydrogen does - yet that that Algae converts 20 Billion tonnes of Carbon Dioxided into Oxygen each year, more than all plants upon this planet. Algae does the same conversion upon our our oceans, seas, rivers ponds etc..... ALGAE loves CO2. \it lives on such and exhales Oxygen.......



posted on Nov, 14 2014 @ 06:59 AM
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Oh my I av lots of algae in my fish tank hmmm......



posted on Nov, 14 2014 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: madmac5150

ok, but why did you steal their magaz-
Ohhhhhhh... I get it now. When we were camping my dad told us to use a leaf from a tree or plant. But he never taught us anything about poisonous plants as in which plants leaves to avoid. Nothing bad or hilarious ever happened, it's just looking back, I kinda think that would have been important, or useful.


So, after reading this, maybe depopulation isnt a PLAN of the Elites... maybe its just something they already know is going to happen... After all, what will happen when you have to... PAY/WORK for your day's oxygen!!! Cant afford it? Cant work? Do you have a family member willing to pull a double shift so you can suck air for another day? How much does your lover Really love you? Muahahahahaaaa!

No seriously though... this is rather frightening...



posted on Nov, 14 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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Just a few quotes from said folks for you're reading ...pleasure? errm maybe not..

J. Cousteau, Explorer and UNESCO Courier “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”

Dave Foreman, Sierra Club and co founder of Earth First! "I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today” and, “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.”

David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! "We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.

David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club “Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?

Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund "The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.

Michael Fox, vice-president of The Humane Society-Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive, selfish and unethical animal on the earth.

United Nations, Global Biodiversity Assessment-A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.

John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal-I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.

Christopher Manes, Earth First!-The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.

Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes “The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.”

Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961 "There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."

These next few quotes are out of the book Ecoscience co written by John P. Holdren the science czar appointed by Obama:

Page 837:
Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.

Page 786-7:
A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. ... The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.

Page 787-8:
Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.

Obama’s Science czar John P. Holdren “The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”


Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! "My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it's full complement of species, returning throughout the world.

About a year ago it only took me 30 minutes to get 81 quotes from our leaders and governments about how many humans need to die or be sterilized.

I'd actually be ok with a ELE if it was natural not orchestrated and included the bastards who are actually destroying the planet for their own gains.

Lil




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