Israeli soldiers 'shoot boy for fun'

Originally posted by Justice Fighter
When the enemy continues to kill them, YES.

Oh and lets see- Israel gave back the Sinai an area 3 times larger than the entire state of Israel because Egypt finally agreed to make peace- meaning that Egypt agreed to stop and try throwing all the Jews in to the sea.
Israel got out of Lebanon when all the PLO terrorists agreed to stop the killing.

Israel took those lands to pull out the fire of the range of its cities, and its too bad for you for not knowing it.

If you choose to base your ideas on propoganda instead of historical facts then its your personal problem.
Read about the Israeli-Arab wars in sites like wikipedia and then you wont publish rubbish.

Ohhh wait, and you were the one basing the foundation of Israel on a subjective timeline? Spewing the same crappy propganda. What was it 2000-5000 years ago?
Why not go back 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 1000 or even 10,0000 years back? You don't dare because you won't find any weak rights for the foundation of Israel.

The short history of Israel:
1- Jews migrated (back) to Palestine in the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century.
2- Jews claim on "historical" events that they have the rights for a Jewish state in Palestine. After much hostilities and terrorist attacks, also conducted by Jews immigrants on British forces, the UN partioned Palestine in 1947.
3- Neighbours got angry and attacked Israel several times.
4- Neighbours lost and Israel occupied more territory, millions of Palestinians are chased into refugee camps.

Oh by the way Justicefighter, it's the Hamas that has been bombing the whole time and not all the Palestinians. BUT Hamas has now called for a pause on all hostilities for the peace process. So you now also agree that Israel must give back Jerusalem and all occupied territories?

Blobber



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Thats another story!

Israel took those lands in the wars for that reason only.

Israel is free for Jewish immigration, as its a state for all the Jews.

300,000 Israelis live in the West Bank because of their ideology, and please, there are 1,000,000 million Israeli-Arabs (Muslims) who live in the state of Israel since 1948 and enjoy all the rights of a Jewish-Israeli (except serving the IDF).

Do you know what is the country in the middle east where arabs enjoy full democracy and have the highest quality of life?
Thats in the state of Israel!

Originally posted by Justice Fighter
Thats another story!

Israel took those lands in the wars for that reason only.

Israel is free for Jewish immigration, as its a state for all the Jews.

300,000 Israelis live in the West Bank because of their ideology, and please, there are 1,000,000 million Israeli-Arabs (Muslims) who live in the state of Israel since 1948 and enjoy all the rights of a Jewish-Israeli (except serving the IDF).

Do you know what is the country in the middle east where arabs enjoy full democracy and have the highest quality of life?
Thats in the state of Israel!

Oh wait, now it's a different story? Now that Hamas has called on a pause of all hostilities for the peace process it's all a different story? Still won't be good for you to give back the occupied territories because "it's a another story".

And about democracy, Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, Jordan have held elections. They are democratizing their society, some are further with democracy than others.

Blobber



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Israel has the full right over Jerusalem and the Jews have the full right over their land, their ONLY land. Why on earth should Israel give up of its land??? Just because the Muslim propoganda says??? Israelis were there long before the Muslims!!!!
Now when the Jews got their land back the Muslims want them all in the sea, they are the quilty for the situation since the day they didnt accept the UN solution in 1947, since the day they declared a war against Israel who fight for its existnace until today. There could be 2 states living in peace, but NOOO! the Arabs didnt agree and wanted more land from the huge land that they already have, and then they lost more and more with every war against Israel...

How many lands have the muslims? Lets see!




"End the unjust and colonialist Jewish occupation of Muslim land!"
-Arab and Muslim Land is in Green.
-Israel is in Red.
Who is a threat to whom?

Originally posted by Justice Fighter
Israel has the full right over Jerusalem and the Jews have the full right over their land, their ONLY land. Why on earth should Israel give up of its land??? Just becaus..."

Because it is occupied land, because it's against the UN resolution of 1947. What's your problem? You implied earlier that Israel will give back the occupied land when there are no more attacks.

Why has it now become a different story when I stated that Hamas has put a pause on all hostiliities for the peace process?

Blobber



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Oh yeah and the arab agression to destroy the Jewish state is not against the UN resolution of 1947, and the arabs didnt force Israel 6 times to fight for its existnace and take land to pull out the range of fire from its cities...
Do you know that all of the Arab and Muslim countries (except Turkey, Egypt and Jordan) still dont recognize Israel?

Israel gave Sinai back to Egypt when Egypt stopped their killing efforts, and Israel will give more of the land back as soon as the arabs stop to try and kill the Jews from the lands that Israel will give back.
Its sad that you dont undertsand this.

I beg you to read about the Israeli-Arab wars in wikipedia.com for example (or any non Mulsim site) to stop publish such rubbish!

The Map says it all!



[edit on 11-12-2004 by Justice Fighter]

LOL I don't need wikipedia, I want your answer. I ask you again this question. Hamas has paused all hostilities for the peace process, so you agree that Israel must now give all occupied territories back?

Almost everything that is orange is occupied.

UN PARTIONING OF PALESTINE IN 1947



Blobber

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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
We also have to consider this came from Alijazeera which is not unbaised in its self.

Oh, Alijazeera The same bunch that kept reporting that
the Israelies 'massacred' 500 Palestinians last year during a bulldozing
of terrorist homes. Later we found out that no one died.

Alijazeera, the same bunch who believed Bagdad Bob and spewed his
laughable garbage to the Islamic world.

Yeah, I believe this. NOT!

Originally posted by Blobber
Now that Hamas has called on a pause of all hostilities for the peace process

Hamas, and all the other terrorist groups, don't have peace as an
ultimate goal. They use 'peace' as a weapon of war, an interm pause
to regroup and rearm. This is their history.

I ask you again this question. Hamas has paused all hostilities for the peace process, so you agree that Israel must now give all occupied territories back?

And how long have they paused for? If they are sincere and can continue to behave for at least12 months, then talks can begin. Otherwise the cessation of hostilities is just a ploy.

[edit on 11-12-2004 by jsobecky]